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I know the lame reason for closing my thread called “Gupshup Declassified”
I just want to know was such a harsh step as closing the thread necessary or the not-so-clever mod could handle the situation in a more appropriate and viable manner.
I want someone who is unbiased/non-judgemental/mature (that means excluding Saba and Xtreme) to answer my question.
Plus I would propose to the admin that the mod should be punished by de-moding him for a week , I think that would be enough.
Exactly where the admins wish it to go. To eliminate religion well not all religion only Islam out of gupshup. Its not ok to insult hinduism or judaism.
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*Originally posted by lunaticCalm: *
hmmm....so you cant make fun of users on the board, but you can mock God and his prophets, and get away with it.
where is this board going???
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Brother you hit the jackpot. Thats absoloutley right. Thats the way it is here take it or leave it.
Pakore, your thread was closed because of the name calling and bickering that was going on in there ... it would have just gotten worse if it hadn't been locked.
CM, does your Islam teach you to post baseless BS? Cuz mine kinda doesn't.
Lunatic, every time we confront a non-Muslim with one insult on Islam, he/she can quote ten. Look around and see what kinda ppl 'encourage' these ppl to post against Islam - If we ban those ten members, you guys point fingers at us for banning Muslims for defending Islam. How else do you want us to shut up ppl then? If you're referring to Roman's post tau that'll either be the first or last of that kind. Either you guys have freedom of speech and learn to respect it or we'll dictate it for you all in details. I'd personally prefer to be able to set my own limits, lekin dekheiN.
Salman, I've already sent you a PM.
Pakora, that thread was closed, because we do not want it to continue on our forum, simple as that.
Sabah, I believe the rationale for every thread's closing is that you didnt want it on your forum. Its disingenuous of you to assume that this specious answer will satisfy anyone.
perhaps you shouldnt have a feedback section agar apni manmaani hi karni hay?
I give your intelligence more credit than to not know what Salman/CM and others refer to. The most recent instance of flippant mockery of Islam is ofcourse Roman's thread in General. His manner was consistently offensive for most posters, who spent 5 pages bickering with him.
If bickering was what you wished to avoid in pakora's thread, why didnt you enforce your peacekeeping missions in Romanland?
Anyway, Im sick of running here, complaining to the mods some of whom obviously place their personal preferences and friendships over a consistent application of their principles.
The thread was closed because it was developing into a slanging match IMO.
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This is the forum for your general conversation. Share your interest, ideas, **your dreams (about other guppies)* or discuss anything not related to above or below forums**
Pakora,
thanks for reminding us of what General is about but that doesn't change the reason for the thread being locked. I suggest you also read up on Feedback guidelines, correct procedure is to contact the Forum mod.
Anyway, Im sick of running here, complaining to the mods some of whom obviously place their personal preferences and friendships over a consistent application of their principles.
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I don't place any friends above MY principles. I guess if I had principles like SalmanNY and you GS would look a lot different.
I don't place any friends above MY principles. I guess if I had principles like SalmanNY and you GS would look a lot different.
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ha! squat u know about my principles or how well i apply em. evidently u're coming in swinging without knowing where u'll hit. why talk for the sake of hitting the submit button?
no, my point isnt about what my principles are, its about what you know them to be. you have scant idea as to what they are or how I'd apply them, so perhaps you should refrain from bringing them in.
ofcourse we discuss principles in the very restricted context of modertorship. im sure you're a very good person otherwise.
Ravage, Pakora assumed I'm biased, that's why I gave him a biased reply, that he deserved.
If you went through Roman's thread you'd know why it went back from review. Rest I've already written in this and Roman's thread. Roman is just as much my friend as you are.
Anyway, Im sick of running here, complaining to the members some of whom obviously place their personal preferences and friendships over a consistent application of their principles. Your words just replaced one word. What I'm asking for is pretty simple, you give respect you get respect. Let me know if you didn't get my point.
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no, my point isnt about what my principles are, its about what you know them to be. you have scant idea as to what they are or how I'd apply them, so perhaps you should refrain from bringing them in.
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Do you want to scroll up and see who questioned who's principles first?
"Respect" is exactly what is missing here. You are the one responsible for ensuring that respect is provided to those who merit them. Observant Muslims place the Prophet at a much higher respect level than ordinary GS posters, and thus their reaction at provocations is much more pronounced. Whereas other threads are locked/removed for much, much more trivial reasons.
I did not wade through the thread, merely the initial posts, enough for me to decide that it was infact unacceptably crass in its attitude towards Muslim expectations of Respect for the Prophet. You may say that Roman had no ill intention. I may have no ill intention for calling person Z an astericked name. but others who do not know and do not wish to know the inner workings of my mind should be spared my filth.
anyhow, I have not read your response to the thread, nor do i wish to bump up that thread's reader/response count simply because I thought Roman's idiocy hadnt been corrected yet. It is in the end your forum, and you get to decide what stays and doesnt.
Xtreme
I didnt question your principles. I questioned the inconsistent application of principles. Im sure that you do believe that the Prophet deserves respect beyond that of an ordinary individual, Im just not sure how often you actually apply that.
furthermore, you have never seen the application of my principles in the role of a censor, whereas I have. thus my point.
edit: alright folks, 328 am here, and Im off to snooze. gnight/gday all. KH.
Well you do realise that some could make the case that to refer to the Prophet without adding :saw: is a lack of respect in itself?
Anyhow that’s just by the by. I looked at Roman’s thread, I can see what might have motivated it, and I can see why some might have got offended. My job isn’t to second guess someone’s intentions though. Roman was giving his views on a film and on how many muslims watch such films maybe pointing to some sort of hypocritical double standards. I have no idea. The bottom line is the case that it was blasphemous wasn’t cast iron so it didn’t get removed.
haha, well spotted. I was afraid of that. I actually think that if enough people thought it offended their sensibilities for me to think s.a.w. instead of write it, then I would start writing it.
Okay, fair enough, if that was infact the reasoning behind it. This brings us to the less grave question of what criterion to have when selecting principles of moderation. Evidently, your notions of respect seem to be weaker (positive spin:more flexible) with a great many other Muslim posters. Should we leave it to personal discretion of whoever in power? Should we have a more democratic, more representative GS? Could that then end the monthly periods of Roman and the subsequent whines? Am I General Musharraf? Please debate.
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CM, does your Islam teach you to post baseless BS? Cuz mine kinda doesn't.
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Thats good to know. Because from what i can see backstabbing and lying are part of your religion.
Please explain to me why these posts just couldnt be deleted instead of closing the thread. You guys delete posts all the time, why was this thread closed instead of the posts deleted?
Xtreme it would be a very different place. These guys dont use gupshup to boast their egos like you do.