Wuzu (Wudu - whatever)

Look…

I dont know about the rest of you but… for me performing wuzu is like taking an anti depressant or a “happy pill”. I feel so much relaxed and happy and fun when I perform wuzu when Im feeling normal. When Im very upset of down for some reason and I perform it, it refreshes me so much and I tend to think positively. It relaxes me and I fall asleep.

I can figure the sequence of performing it such that if we look at it from a scientific angle, it would give us alot to ponder. I believe all of these tasks necessary for performing religious duties have some sceintific significance. I believe it would be proved in the years to come. :snooty:

^ to add to this ... In a hadeeth, a Muslim is advised to make wudu while in anger, as it helps in cooling down.

Literally.

PCG

Just got back from Jummah prayers and the Imaan said the following statement in English which made me remember your post:

WUDHU IS EXTERNAL PURIFICATION FOR THE INTERNAL PURIFICATION WHICH IS NAMAAZ

ramyssysIX - Can you think straight when you are angry? :bummer: But Im trying Im trying :bummer:

Faisal - :mocking:

Wazu

Dear Pyari Cudya,

Hi!

First important thing, which I want to write is that, God had indicated in Quran, about thousands of languages which are being spoken by his creation.

Since he (God ) is almighty; if without doubt- then He undestands all languages. So we must say WAZU in urdu. HE(GOD) wanted us to speak urdu.

But IQRA Quran , it means read it. So reading Quran in ARabic is required as it is said at least muslims must read Quran once in their lives.

Afterwards you are allowed to understand it in urdu,explain it in urdu. We must not necessarily even call him/address in Arabic language, otherwise NAOUZOUBILLA GOD would not receive HAMARA message. It is nonsense but non sense.

Quran is in ARabic as ATMAME HUJA on ARABS . IT was not for any FaZielat. If some one understands it, would second me.

Regarding wazu.

Wazu is not the way to do TAHARAT. It is ARKANE DIN before praying. So one must be TAhir before Wazu. Even feet should not smell, as bacteria that gives smell to feet in shoes is NAJASAT.

Pak person should do wazu and later pray. Wazu of a lady breaks if her eye fall on NA mehram or if she takes nap or many other thing. So it is better to do wazu before every prayer.

Regards

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*Originally posted by sokoon: *

Wazu of a lady breaks if her eye fall on NA mehram

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I dont understand some of the points made here due to the language used but this is certainly not true - I dont think there is any evidence that can prove this.

Firstly, on the way to pray people see non-mahrams all the time in your place of work, study etc. In the days of the Prophet (SAW) I heard that the men and women would pray without segregation (as we have now) as the people were pious and there was no fear of fitna.

Also, in Hajj you see non mahrams ever second in fact you even end up praying next to them on occasion.

If this was true, you would either have to close your eyes and go around or make your wudhu every few mins.

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^ Neely, You are right ! Wuzu does not break by seeing na-mehram.

Sokoon apa is a neem hakeem Daktar Tank’kana :stuck_out_tongue:

Shukria ! aap ne bata diya, ab main Allah mian se fone per Urdu main baat kar sakta hoon na ? :roman:

^
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Hi! Neely you are right it makes sense.

Believe it I had read it in some book. I had read that makeup also breaks the wazu, Also if your eyes fall on na mehram or even on unknown persons' photograph it is wrong, while you are proceeding for offering prayers or during prayer.Please let me know about following two questions. Thanks.

Regarding Hajj you said correct, very correct.

But is it true that what ever we do in Hajj is not forbidden for a lady? for example keeping face open etc

Also is not praying Namaz e Zohar and Asar together prohabited? ; because what I remember all muslims arabs or aajam pray zouhar and aaser namaz together on Haajj.

Thanks

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*Originally posted by sokoon: *
Believe it I had read it in some book. I had read that makeup also breaks the wazu, Also if your eyes fall on na mehram or even on unknown persons' photograph it is wrong, while you are proceeding for offering prayers or during prayer.Please let me know
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Im no scholar so dont take my opinions but based on my understanding (which I believe to be correct) looking at something you shouldnt really look at doesnt break your wudhu - yes you may be committing a sin.

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*Originally posted by sokoon: *
But is it true that what ever we do in Hajj is not forbidden for a lady? for example keeping face open etc
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True, hajj is unique and some rulings change. But even still regarding the niqaab (i think thats what you mean), there is a lot of difference of opinion - the majority of scholars say niqaab is not farz it was only farz on the Prophet's wives (SAW).

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*Originally posted by sokoon: *Also is not praying Namaz e Zohar and Asar together prohabited? ; because what I remember all muslims arabs or aajam pray zouhar and aaser namaz together on Haajj.
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Same as above really but again it isn't so simple. Some people combine Zohur & Asr and Magrib and Isha when they travel more than 50 miles not only on Hajj where we have to do it. The scholar Imam Abu Hanifa wasnt convinced that travellers were ok to combine based on the evidence he studied whereas Imam Shafii was satisfied it was perfectly legitimate to do.

Thats why followers of the Hanafi opinion - mainly pak india turkey etc do not combine where as followers of the Shafii opinion (a lot of arabic countries) do combine.

Such differences of opinions are natural in every aspect of life and perfectly acceptable in the eyes of Allah, we just need to stick to the way we feel is right and not start picking and choosing what is easiest.

^ very nicely put :k:

I hope that more and more muslims have clear understanding about difference of opinion regarding issues and less show of jahalat by calling each other kafir if someone prays/dress/walk differently than the way you are taught.

sokoon All those activities you mentioned, does not invalidate wuzu.

For the complete list( of activities that break wuzu) , check any book of namaz which is commonly available or check any islamic site. And better start reading some authentic book :slight_smile:

^

Thanks to you all; for suggestions made.

Re: Wuzu (Wudu - whatever)

Since this is a Wudu thread, I will post my question here.

If someone has just taken a complete shower, got dressed up, moistured face, maybe some little makeup everything. Now you are ready to pray in 30 mins or so. But before you can get to it, you have to go and pee fast. Ofcourse after peeing you wash up and cleanse like we are supposed to Islamically.
Now do you need to do Wudu all over again for praying? Person had already showered. Do I need to go through the whole ritual of Wudu, washing face, feet arms etc? or is there a short cut?

Re: Wuzu (Wudu - whatever)

and all these years i had been under the misconception that u actually know something about Islam....

anyway, to answer the question posted by jal_pari, yes u do have to do the wudoo again....
if u r in a big hurry and cannot do it all, u have to atleast go thru the obligatory parts of wudoo....
but those will cover the washing of hands and face (thats what many girls want to avoid anyway) so i dont think it will help u much....

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To me it is preparing for a meeting, i myself never meet a person if iam not even feeling clean & tidy.

For all occasions normally i prepare accordingly, now for Salat, i had to be in direct contact with Allah All Mighty, so i specially take care of my dressing and tidiness.

I guess it is human psychy that they do not feel comfortable if they are not clean, i guess this is why Islam has emphasised on being clean and tidy all the time. Other than Salat, i cannot concentrate on anything if iam not clean…

its just my feeling i don’t know about others,

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You have to go through the whole ritual of Wuzu all over again.

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Here is a reference from Quran which clearly states what you need to do before you stand up for namaz. All other details have been added with the help of Hadees and Sunnah. Whatever comes from Quran is the best whatever comes from Hadees and Sunnah is upto you if you have doubts about any Hadees and Sunnah you are not obliged to follow that.

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Re: Wuzu (Wudu - whatever)

I don't think it's intended to impact concentration. although it is certainly a preparation and so a clear demarcation between the start of prayers and the activities that surround it.

Wudu was always described to me as simply making oneself presentable to God...and, of course, it doesn't take much. People spend more time getting ready for work. Or going out with their friends. Mind you, some people insist on taking a bath within a sink...I just don't get that either.

When I was sloppy about Wudu, I did loose concentration...but mostly because I just didn't see the sense in going on with the prayer when I wasn't doing it right.

As for looking for "scientific" reasoning...I'd suggest that's a strange misuse of science...in general, I don't think wudu is perscribed for utilitarian purposes.

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This is kinda off topic but if you picture that as your washing yourself your sins are physically being washed away then you would wanna do it more often.

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well reading the way loooooooong thread i just wanna add...

i prayed once or twice because of illness without wudu and it felt pretty awkward u know i wasnt comfortable at all i felt like there was sumthing missing but still i had to pray so i prayed and i prayed lying down too once, because i cudnt get up i had high fever so it feels wierd.

and for when we shud do wudu and when not to

so its simple
if u take a shower then no need of wudu afterwards shower is complete cleansing so no need of wudu u can pray straight up.

and after using toilet wudu is neccessary the whole process again

u have to perform wudu if u pass wind, yes the whole process again

wudu is wasted when u sleep on ur back its not like u fall asleep sitting it wont waste ur wudu

eating wont waste ur wudu but if u eat or drink any fatty food or food that has fats like sumthing oily or milk or chocolates u have to wash ur mouth only not the whole process

wudu is wasted if u have eaten camels meat

thats it and its simple