Would you consider this controlling behavior? Is this love? I want to leave so badly.

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This has nothing to do with taking pity on her. And OP doesn't need to share "everything". If the husband tried to strangle her and threatened to beat her with a belt....that the only information that's relevant when it comes to her safety. In a case like this, nothing else matters b/c the next time he snaps and get his hands around her neck again.....he may not stop until she dies. In a case like this, it doesn't matter whether it's lack of communication, lack of enough time together.....or whatever else is going on. NOTHING makes it ok for the husband to resort to physical violence. Its OP's #1 priority to make sure she's in a safe enviornment. After all.....she won't have a marriage with him or anyone else if she's dead now will she?

** And my advice wouldn't be any different if a man were to say that his wife physically abused him. Once a spouse loses control and resorts to physical violence........the spouse on the other end needs to get out ASAP and ensure his/her physical safety BEFORE trying to work on the marriage. No amount of stress, lack understanding, expectations, lack of communication.....or any other issue makes it ok for 1 spouse to physically abuse the other.

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Sounds so much like my fiance! I am a girl with similar beliefs and he is the controlling kind. Doing what he wants to and not listening to anyone. Being overly sweet all times and becoming someone else when you try to take a stand. I wish I am wrong in evaluating him, I wish I don’t end up in a situation like this after sometime. :confused:

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I wouldn't advise yo to wish/pray/hope if you are seeing Red flags then get out now. a broken engagement is better than broken bones & a bruised body, and that too if ur lucky.

IF he is seriously this crazy as OP's husband then please take the steps you need to now. Maybe God is showing you the red flags now to give u a way out , remember Allah likes those who help themselves too.

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GOod god, stop wishing and hoping, if he’s really this crazy then get hte heck out NOW!

Allah gave u a gift in the form of red flags.

Real man would not ask his wife for financial gains.having said that marriage of few years is a life time hard to forget or walk out of it. It never ends even if you walk out of it but you will feel liberated if you dont have kids.

Would you consider this controlling behavior? Is this love? I want to leave so badly.

Is anyone else annoyed of the fact that psychologist dude not only thinks he / she knows it all but can't even write in proper English.

What I don't understand is, as a psychologist how are you sitting there on your computer assessing somebody whom you your self can't even communicate with. As a psychologist you have to be able to observe a persons behavior and thought process before advising on how they should cope with their situations. Being a psychologist doesn't make you a marriage expert, that's Steve Harvey's job these days.

Aren't you technically breaking all three of your own rules on relationships here in the context of a therapist and patient relationship. .. 1) Wanting to be understood before understanding yourself -- how have you understood anything about this girl from just a couple of paragraphs?? But you are so quick to advise on the marriage so thoroughly. 2) lack of communication-- clearly you have had none with this person. 3) spending enough time together -- uhhh hello??? Same point as the one before.

Did anyone else notice this? lol

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Well... men are like that. These are small little things. It happens with most of couples. Women tend to see things from one perspective. Men have totally different perspective. The things which matter most to women they really don't matter to men. Believe me. Each gender know the traits of their gender. You can not deny it. If he is possessive and don't let you wear the clothes you want, then you should understand the thinking process around it. There is no harm in it. At least he doesnt ask you to drink or eat pork for society sake.

The fact that you are financially independent and your husband takes interest in your financial matters has just made you feel that he marrried you for greed. Oh please, husband and wife have a very close relation. If he asks something about that, then keep in mind it's because he wanna make himself sure that you both are financially stable or in case if something bad happens at least you dont have to beg in front of anyone. Future and financial stability worries men more than women.

You mother-in-law didnt spoke anything. Why should she ? Thats the matter between husband and wife.

I am sorry that you guys can't have kids. Thats the main reason for all the useless thoughts coming into your mind. You guys should think of adoption. See within couple of years the bond between husband and wife tends to become weak. Its natural. Nothing is permanent in life. Children are wat that make that bond strong again. I feel, that the main problem between you guys. Your husband wants to have kids and he doesnt want to leave u. That's y he wants every option to be tried.

Complimenting and insulting eachother for their bodies in part of life. Our bodies changes with time and with our lifestyle. Dont take it too serious.

In end, What matters most is that the guy loves you. And stop talking to your girl friends, they are putting evilish ideas in your mind. You marital life is good. its not bad as it has been said by other females.

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Babes, that ain't love! That is the classic example of a narrissist personality.
GET OUT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

You seem very independent and strong so please take yourself out of the situation. Take it as a blessing that you have been un-successful with your fertility treatment, Allah has made the complications less for you....no children to tie you down. Hope you are ok now

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This was a pretty intense and polarizing thread. I wonder how OP is doing now.

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first of all, my apologies to everyone who offered me their sincere advice and were worried about the lack of feedback from me. I had initiated the legal proceedings and since my husband knew i frequent gs (he did not know my nick, rockon, but the post was enough to reveal my identity to him), i did not want him to have any inkling of my strategy, as he was forcefully living in the house that i was paying for and threatening to extend the divorce case for 10 years, so as to continue to live in the house (as laws here are in favor of the person in physical possession of the property and not the legal owner).

secondly, many of u are right in wondering, what exactly was i looking for in posting at gs. looking back, its very clear to me i was in extreme denial. i honestly couldn't see the elephant in the room because i was standing so close to it. honestly, thank u once more for your advice and support, because back then i was truly at the lowest point of my life, fighting my own parents and my entire family, for that matter, who somehow felt that i was wrong to demand a divorce DESPITE the threat to my life and despite the mental abuse

now, the outcome:
my husband did his best to delay the divorce proceedings as much as possible. it is ironic how he showed his true colors to my family in the last few months. when he received the first summons, he came to my parents and promised them he would rather divorce me, if thats what i really wanted, than drag me through a legal procedure which might be painful or insulting for me. his very words were, "i would never drag her through the courts. i love her so much i can't stand the thought of her running here and there in courts and running up against all kinds of unscrupulous people who may try to take advantage of her. So i will give her what she wants myself". my family was very impressed by these words. i told them to sit back and wait for the action to follow through. it never did, and i knew from experience it wouldn't. he was an expert in using words to get what he wanted in the short term.

anyway, he refused to show up despite repeated legal summons. he also refused point blank later on to divorce me when he was reminded of his promise. eventually he threatened my family to stop pursuing the case as he was in physical possession of the house and he would just not vacate it and using the law to get the house vacated is a near impossibility, especially if he is still my husband. But with this threat, my family finally saw him for what he was: a gold digger. and I was just his ATM, an ATM which also did the house work and wife work.

in his reply to the divorce law suit, he demanded all gifts be returned, including handbags and shoes. this one really left me speechless. i couldn't stop laughing at his petty mindedness. considering that my parents had even gifted him a plot which we didn't ask to be returned. gifts are just not taken back. its really really bad taste.

long story short. he eventually showed up in court and tried to prove i was a psychiatric patient, which obviously he couldn't. the judge awarded the khula on the spot.

he was still in no mood to vacate the house. he asked us for a one year court order permitting him to live in the house for one year, without paying me rent, even tho i was paying the mortgage myself. my lawyer advised me that once he had such a court order, he would simply get stay orders issued against it and never vacate the said premises. needless to say, i never gave him such a court order. he eventually vacated after a month.

looking back at the 7 years of my life, i feel immense regret for the fact that i have wasted 7 years of my life. but i am relieved to be out of this ordeal without any children to keep me attached to him, its a clean break from him and i am grateful for that.

if there is one lesson i have learnt from this mistake, it is: NEVER go into marriage thinking you can change yourself or your spouse; no one ever changes their basic fundamental personality unless their belief systems are challenged and changed. i was a free spirited independent young woman and i settled down for all the dysfunctional treatment handed out to me because i kept telling myself i could change into a submissive woman, because thats what everyone kept telling me women are supposed to be. well guess what? it just didn't happen. i was a living dead person trying to be someone i wasn't, killing off my true personality. (I'm not talking minor adjustments here, i know marriage is give and take, but personality swicthes just don't happen). so both spouses have to know and accept each other for their true personalities, warts and all. for that, u both MUST share similar beliefs about life and goals in life

it was difficult for me to see how much this marriage had suffocated me because once your mind tries to rationalize abuse as something u must put up with, its very difficult for u to define boundaries. i had become the proverbial frog in hot water: if u put a frog in a pot in hot water and raise the temperature one degree at a time, you can boil the frogs brain and kill him before he realizes what is happening to him.

the second major lesson i learnt was, your decisions are useful only if they are timely. Time is your biggest weapon, use it to ur advantage or it will be used against u to someone else's advantage. i have seen so many bitter marriages where men or women realize after 20-25 years of marriage that they have wasted the most youthful, healthy and energy filled part of their lives with spouses who do not value them or their efforts. such poisonous marriages poison the children as well. i am not advocating divorce for all, but i truly fail to understand the indo-pak mindset which considers the institution of marriage as sacrosanct and will go to all lengths to praise a woman who puts up with an abusive husband. women are not doormats. they are as human as the men they married.

if women leave their families behind to start a new life with their husbands, why don't the husbands leave their families behind and start a new life with their wives?
(rhetorical question) :)

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blackdiamond, get out now. plz. don't be in a relationship until u develop a clear sense of identity independent of other people.

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I'm glad to read your update and see that things went relatively well. May Allah make whatever is to come easy and beneficial for you.

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Good for you. Be well.

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I think the psychologist was actually her husband in disguise...;)

Rockon be happy and dont worry about your past 7 years. Maybe there was some learning from that. Take life as it comes and have a great future

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wishing you best of luck in future ! You are one strong woman :k:

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oh my gosh!
I'm so glad.

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:k:

Thank you for the update. You are a strong woman for taking charge of your own future and not allowing others to decide it for you. I wish you all the best! :flowers:

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Thanks for updating Rockon, I hope things work out for the best for you

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ROCKON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do keep up with the updates. Its so refreshing to see a happy ending.

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what a wonderful update!!!!
good job rockon.
I'm sure that the wisdom you have gained from these years will ensure you a solid and happy future iA.