Seeing a palestinian blow up a bus full of Israeli kids who were going to school I was wondering where would those kids land after death.. heaven or hell.. I dont want to get in that debate agian that palestinian kids are killed daily so its not a big deal that Israelis should die too!
I know we beliece that children go to heaven if they die early..is it only muslim kids or all kids? as kids have no knowledge of religion and their faith may go any way when they grow up.. daily we see peopel of all faiths embracing Islam.. so a 1 year Israeli kid blown to pieces would go to hell or heaven ?
I dont care what people say. Yes Palestinians are suffering. But you know what? They've had the chance to do a lot with what they've had, and they've only concentrated on the violent approach to resistance. Dude, if they took all that money they're putting in to providing weapons, etc to the palestinian youths to blow themselves up, and diverted it to education, etc...then phir theek hai, they have a small amount of land, but they could build a great mini-civilization with the land, and in the process maybe get some more land back, or even live under the israeli government with the condition that they have representation and religious freedom and access to their Islamic monuments and historical sites.
But NO. Their stupid pride gets in the way, and mucks everything up!
I have no respect for suicide bombers or any opinions in support of it. You just dont kill other people like that . You just dont.
You get kicked on your behind for it. And that's why the Palestinians are suffering. Because their whole approach is wrong, and the Muslim World is wrong for even supporting it.
So the way I see it, is , they're going to hell or at least have a good chance at it. Especially the masterminds behind it who are brainwashing the youth into committing suicide in the first place. And I dont care how many namazein they read.
thnx for the reply but we have and are still dicussing suicide bombers in other posts..I just want to know Islamic point of view about kids fate.. especially Israelis!
the Islamic view I'm familiar with is that until u hit puberty, you're not responsible for your actions. Your parents/guardians and influencers in society are.
If the bombers were beyond puberty, then they and only they are responsible for their acts, although the influencers in society are also held accountable.
For example, if I'm 18 and some fellow scholar tries to influence me into cheating a paper or an exam, then I'm responsible for doing something wrong. But then that person is also accountable for giving me the advice for cheating also.
PyariCgudia
again am not interested in suicide bombers are adults or not! am interested in small school kids fate who died... say 2 year old Israeli kid..
The school kids who died are going to heaven...the terrorists who killed them are going to hell/ Want proof..I will give you history....Whenever the arabs have attacked Israel, they have lost badly. Allah is on the side of the jews. Why can't the terrorists get that through their heads.
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The school kids who died are going to heaven...the terrorists who killed them are going to hell/ Want proof..I will give you history....Whenever the arabs have attacked Israel, they have lost badly. Allah is on the side of the jews. Why can't the terrorists get that through their heads.
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wow who says, that ALLAH is at jews side, man you MUSLIM or what...
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For example, if I'm 18 and some fellow scholar tries to influence me into cheating a paper or an exam, then I'm responsible for doing something wrong. But then that person is also accountable for giving me the advice for cheating also.
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well PiyariC, 18 is only a LEGAL age refrence,
but in ISLAM point of view, puberty is reached, when hair grows in ones pubic area.
and for some its early and for some its late, but 18 is for legal refrence only, nothing to do with Islam .
If God is on side of jews why are they kicked out of all the countries they go to!
As for these 6 day and 2 day supposedly wars and nothign but stage managed scenarios. Everyone in the region knows what happend one example sadat bombing his own troops because they went beyond where they where supposed to stop! Syrians where on the golan height when state radio said israelis took it!
For non muslim children who die, in islam says they will tested by allah in hereafter and then allah(swt) will decide where they will go.
PCG...degas was asking about the fate of Israeli children..Israeli..let me say it again Israeli..ok again..Israeli children who died at a very early age..i agreed with what you said pcg but he was talking about Israeli children in this post..thank you
I just dont see how these innocent children can go to hell
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i dont believe a religen can wage a war on people and make their life hell on earth to convince them there is heaven after death.
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Degas as far as I know all children who die before the age of puberty go to Paradise, Allah The Most Merciful will not punish someone who dies before the age of accountability, it doesn't matter what religion the parents followed, jew, christian, hindu or wot ever, the children are sinless.
The Holy Prophet Allah's peace and blessing be upon him described that he saw Ibraaheem in a garden in Paradise with a great number of children surrounding him. The Prophet peace and blessing be upon him informed the Companions that the children of the polytheists were included in them. [See Saheeh Al-Bukhari #7047 (12/530-532 of Fat-hul-Baaree).]
ak47 and Sheraz CT have given some reply all others are entirely :topic:
And for Chaltahai if Allah is on the side of jews the attackers who killed praying in hindu temples in Kashmir must had blessing from ur Bhagwan! its very easy to mock faith of other people.. I have seen u also try to be oversmart making fun here.. with basic knowledge and study of any religion it would seem all religions as fairy tales.. a little knowledge is adangerous thing in reference to religion its extremely dangerous thing.. I have many hindu friends and I respect their faith and try to learn +vetely than making mockery..
The Prophet (salla allahu alaihi wa sallam) said, 'The pen has been lifted for three: The sleeping until he wakes up, the child until he has reached puberty, and the crazy person until he regains sanity.' (Abu Da'ood)
All children before they reach puberty are not held accountable for anything, so why would they go to Hell??
Degas: OF course I am being facetious. Look at the topic. Why would innocent children and men and women in temples and pizza parlours go to hell when they are killed by terrorists intentionally? Common sense should prevail!!!
You people are nitpicking about the age of the killed? Do you honestly think god has a watermark on the pearly gates saying those that do not reach that mark are going to heaven and the rest going to hell. Is god a carnival director?