N who do u consider fob any way? Even after 4 or 4 years the person is still bracketed in that category!
N who do u consider fob any way? Even after 4 or 5years the person is still in that category?
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Yes.
Re: Would the Desi girls consider marrying an Desi International Student?
Well in our batch of 10 students 7 have got something going.Mostly love and some arranged.N only one person wants to go back Ultimately because his father owns a very big business.He also has serious relationship going!
This is just my experience from undergrad. I am not generalizing the entire population. But those young 17-18 year olds that came over for their studies for the most part were super wild. Suddenly they had all this freedom, the amenities, the resources to "become their own person". The guys at my university (and I went to a HUGE school...over 30 thousand undergrad students... a huge chunk were overseas students) were especially all about Indian girls. Overseas Indian girls though. There were not that many paki girls that were studying abroad. But there were a lot of Indian girls. With those girls, they were able to feel comfortable with them due to their similar backgrounds and similar circumstances in their new environment. Indian girls are generally more wild than Paki girls as well (once again...only from my experience at my school). Us paki girls got turned off by this. Beyond the usual concerns about "he's only interested in me for citizenship reasons", there were the usual different upbringings and mentalities, and then the turn off about how wild some of these guys got and how close they became with their Indian overseas chicas. .
Part1- comparative analysis
I understand you are not generalizing, and I want to make it clear it is not an attack on what you are saying, but I will use this to demonstrate something.
see, so there is skepticism, because you see some guys go crazy once they get here, and thus girls are put off by it etc etc.
by the same token, local guys get turned off by what they see as some local pakistani origin girls go crazy, and then these guys or their mums paint the local girl population with the same broad brush.
point being, these reasons are only as valid as we let them be, everyone has to be viewed as an individual.
As far as guys staying here, their reasons to marry someone local can be from a number, they will stay here, regardless of who they marry, many of these guys have obtained H1 and are getting greencards on their own, but if they are building a life here, it may make sense to find someone who is comfortable with the lifestyle here. the ratio of Pakistani guys to girls who came here for education is heavily skewed towards guys. I dont know how the situation is now, but at one point if you had an H1 and married someone from pakmanland, the paperwork and wait time to get her to come over was pretty bad.
part 2- personal anecdote
I have some personal experience with it, my wife's cousins and the ring leader one chica engaged to her cousin tried to dissuade her from marrying me by telling her I was a player, party animal and what nots. The funny thing about that was that not only were they right, but they did not know the half of it and had some inkling of my grad school days, and not my undergrad fraternity days which my wife had heard all about from me anyways. however unlike guys getting here and getting freedom and then going bad, I arrived bad, and actually probably tamed down once i got here.
It boils down to views about life, I would never pretend to be some conservative type of guy and it was always laid out for all to see and know who I was and what I was.
I suppose some baycharay acchay bacchay desi bhai log got ignored like a big dog due to stereotypes set by people like yours truly :) if anyone of them is reading this sitting in gujranwala mad because his chica's parents in US said no...dude.. I am sorry.
part 3- vouching for shareef desi guys.
My experiences have been that the vast majority of guys who come from Pak are basically shareef ppl, I know this because I was unable to corrupt most of them with my influence. and this too from unis that were in 30K plus student populations so large numbers of foreign students there as well as local desis.
Part4- misc after thoughts
PS: it did not help that her cousin's fiancee who was all campaigning against me was then caught making out with some dude in the backseat of some car
PS2: Indian chicas?? man why why why do these guys from pak go for indian chicas, when as an international student you have costa ricans, argentinians, greek, dutch and what nots..desio guys really need to broaden their horizins
Part1- comparative analysis
I understand you are not generalizing, and I want to make it clear it is not an attack on what you are saying, but I will use this to demonstrate something.
see, so there is skepticism, because you see some guys go crazy once they get here, and thus girls are put off by it etc etc.
by the same token, local guys get turned off by what they see as some local pakistani origin girls go crazy, and then these guys or their mums paint the local girl population with the same broad brush.
point being, these reasons are only as valid as we let them be, everyone has to be viewed as an individual.
As far as guys staying here, their reasons to marry someone local can be from a number, they will stay here, regardless of who they marry, many of these guys have obtained H1 and are getting greencards on their own, but if they are building a life here, it may make sense to find someone who is comfortable with the lifestyle here. the ratio of Pakistani guys to girls who came here for education is heavily skewed towards guys. I dont know how the situation is now, but at one point if you had an H1 and married someone from pakmanland, the paperwork and wait time to get her to come over was pretty bad.
part 2- personal anecdote
I have some personal experience with it, my wife's cousins and the ring leader one chica engaged to her cousin tried to dissuade her from marrying me by telling her I was a player, party animal and what nots. The funny thing about that was that not only were they right, but they did not know the half of it and had some inkling of my grad school days, and not my undergrad fraternity days which my wife had heard all about from me anyways. however unlike guys getting here and getting freedom and then going bad, I arrived bad, and actually probably tamed down once i got here.
It boils down to views about life, I would never pretend to be some conservative type of guy and it was always laid out for all to see and know who I was and what I was.
I suppose some baycharay acchay bacchay desi bhai log got ignored like a big dog due to stereotypes set by people like yours truly :) if anyone of them is reading this sitting in gujranwala mad because his chica's parents in US said no...dude.. I am sorry.
part 3- vouching for shareef desi guys. My experiences have been that the vast majority of guys who come from Pak are basically shareef ppl, I know this because I was unable to corrupt most of them with my influence. and this too from unis that were in 30K plus student populations so large numbers of foreign students there as well as local desis.
Part4- misc after thoughts
PS: it did not help that her cousin's fiancee who was all campaigning against me was then caught making out with some dude in the backseat of some car
PS2: Indian chicas?? man why why why do these guys from pak go for indian chicas, when as an international student you have costa ricans, argentinians, greek, dutch and what nots..desio guys really need to broaden their horizins
Thanks X2 for ur support and understanding.Yes u r absolutley right we need to broaden our horizon to other ethnicities.Just look at the attitude of who pretend to be "Our Own community".Look at their suspiciousness.People just want have it all their way or the highway!
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The funny thing I have seen with some of my pakistani transplanted pals who married chicas from pakistan is that the maikas are in lahore or karachi and the lady takes off for pakistan for all summer to be with family or take a break. poor guys live the lives of geographical bachelors for 3 months out of the year. one of them was complaining that he wished he had married someone locally so he did not have to put up with that crap, I told him dude sometimes I wish I had married someone from pakistan cuz 3 months of freedom a year aint too bad...walk around the home in your boxers, wake up and have a beer and a smoke right after that while sitting on the crapper..sigh but then I guess I would miss her too much, and with no one to do my laundry I may just have to take clothes to a laundromat and end up having a fling with the middle aged chinese lady at the counter :(
We American girls are too wild.
so now i know that program is on American Desi girls
"Men vs Wild" :)
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And to answer some who was talking abt "DESPERATION".Beleive me I know how "desperate" are so many moms of desi girl to get them married to a "Decent sharif" Guy!
Part1- comparative analysis
I understand you are not generalizing, and I want to make it clear it is not an attack on what you are saying, but I will use this to demonstrate something.
see, so there is skepticism, because you see some guys go crazy once they get here, and thus girls are put off by it etc etc.
by the same token, local guys get turned off by what they see as some local pakistani origin girls go crazy, and then these guys or their mums paint the local girl population with the same broad brush.
point being, these reasons are only as valid as we let them be, everyone has to be viewed as an individual.
As far as guys staying here, their reasons to marry someone local can be from a number, they will stay here, regardless of who they marry, many of these guys have obtained H1 and are getting greencards on their own, but if they are building a life here, it may make sense to find someone who is comfortable with the lifestyle here. the ratio of Pakistani guys to girls who came here for education is heavily skewed towards guys. I dont know how the situation is now, but at one point if you had an H1 and married someone from pakmanland, the paperwork and wait time to get her to come over was pretty bad.
part 2- personal anecdote
I have some personal experience with it, my wife's cousins and the ring leader one chica engaged to her cousin tried to dissuade her from marrying me by telling her I was a player, party animal and what nots. The funny thing about that was that not only were they right, but they did not know the half of it and had some inkling of my grad school days, and not my undergrad fraternity days which my wife had heard all about from me anyways. however unlike guys getting here and getting freedom and then going bad, I arrived bad, and actually probably tamed down once i got here.
It boils down to views about life, I would never pretend to be some conservative type of guy and it was always laid out for all to see and know who I was and what I was.
I suppose some baycharay acchay bacchay desi bhai log got ignored like a big dog due to stereotypes set by people like yours truly :) if anyone of them is reading this sitting in gujranwala mad because his chica's parents in US said no...dude.. I am sorry.
part 3- vouching for shareef desi guys. My experiences have been that the vast majority of guys who come from Pak are basically shareef ppl, I know this because I was unable to corrupt most of them with my influence. and this too from unis that were in 30K plus student populations so large numbers of foreign students there as well as local desis.
Part4- misc after thoughts
PS: it did not help that her cousin's fiancee who was all campaigning against me was then caught making out with some dude in the backseat of some car
PS2: Indian chicas?? man why why why do these guys from pak go for indian chicas, when as an international student you have costa ricans, argentinians, greek, dutch and what nots..desio guys really need to broaden their horizins
I liked your post. We may disagree but your points are rational and can be understood.
and LOL about the PS2: I never got that either. I mean..they could have even gone after the goris. Goris would have thought they were "exotic".
And yea you are right. There are streotypes all around. Us Amreekan girls have also had our fair share. What goes around comes around for all parties I guess.
Having a H1 visa does make it harder for a guy to bring his wife back if he gets married to a homeland chic. But the guys that are here fore their studies, it is really hard for them because they have student visas. The whole point is for them to complete their studies and then peace out back to their motherland. A lot of them get desperate and do not want to go back ..and have trouble finding jobs as well (not hard to fathom in this economy). So they opt to find a nice citizenship girl here so that they are not forced to go back. I mean.... too many countless stories and examples with this scenerio.
But at the end of the day. Any of us "wild" amreekan girls that does not want to marry a "fob" does not have too. No one is forcing us. So I guess there should not be too much of a debate about this. It's only bad if a guy is secretive about his situation - also happens. Now that is scary :(
The funny thing I have seen with some of my pakistani transplanted pals who married chicas from pakistan is that the maikas are in lahore or karachi and the lady takes off for pakistan for all summer to be with family or take a break. poor guys live the lives of geographical bachelors for 3 months out of the year. one of them was complaining that he wished he had married someone locally so he did not have to put up with that crap, I told him dude sometimes I wish I had married someone from pakistan cuz 3 months of freedom a year aint too bad...walk around the home in your boxers, wake up and have a beer and a smoke right after that while sitting on the crapper..sigh but then I guess I would miss her too much, and with no one to do my laundry I may just have to take clothes to a laundromat and end up having a fling with the middle aged chinese lady at the counter :(
That's me!
But i am happy for choice i made, it is small price for great family i got.
My children are still Pakistanis at heart. Strong family and cultural bond, it a way they are enjoying best of both worlds.
N who do u consider fob any way? Even after 4 or 5years the person is still in that category?
My dad has been here for over 40 years and I still consider him a fob. lol
My dad has been here for over 40 years and I still consider him a fob. lol
Well here U go.Its Ur mindset and not the reality!
Well this question for desi girls living in Europe,USA, Canada and Aus etc.I was reading the comments of girls on this forum on the difficulties of finding a decent guy..........But they do want their permenant resident card or green card.They can be a good catch.what do the girls think?
Please dig deeper and find out what they want out of a husband too, for your own safe and peaceful future.
I liked your post. We may disagree but your points are rational and can be understood.
and LOL about the PS2: I never got that either. I mean..they could have even gone after the goris. Goris would have thought they were "exotic".
And yea you are right. There are streotypes all around. Us Amreekan girls have also had our fair share. What goes around comes around for all parties I guess.
Having a H1 visa does make it harder for a guy to bring his wife back if he gets married to a homeland chic. But the guys that are here fore their studies, it is really hard for them because they have student visas. The whole point is for them to complete their studies and then peace out back to their motherland. A lot of them get desperate and do not want to go back ..and have trouble finding jobs as well (not hard to fathom in this economy). So they opt to find a nice citizenship girl here so that they are not forced to go back. I mean.... too many countless stories and examples with this scenerio.
But at the end of the day. Any of us "wild" amreekan girls that does not want to marry a "fob" does not have too. No one is forcing us. So I guess there should not be too much of a debate about this. It's only bad if a guy is secretive about his situation - also happens. Now that is scary :(
most of the H1 ppl are ppl who went to school here. and the economy thing is now, however even in current situation ppl are getting h1s depending on what they bring to the table.
desperation can be a factor, as could be others. There are those who have come here because it was a way out for them, a way to build a better life for themselves and their families.
A gentleman on this site who I will not name because thats his info to share, not only left for overseas after his father passed away to make a better life for himself, but while paying for his own way through uni, supported his younger brothers education in top institutions in Pakistan, sisters education and marriage, mother's household expenses and healthcare etc etc. (dude, btw if you are reading this call me, i lost your number after a cellphone mishap)
another good pal of mine who was one of my party animal sidekick, had a different side to him too, he helped his folks back home, and once his dad passed away, his bros came to US, he did not finish his masters instead opting for putting his brothers through undergrad..and he while was the oldest brother...was the last to get married. had his first baby just this year, while his brothers who are 3 and 5 years younger than him have 5 year olds.
There are those guys around too..all I am saying is please dont shortchange these guys just because some are bad, or some are primarily concerned with greencard and who the girl is become a secondary issue. it is however not much different than local desi girls parents looking for docs or successful lawyers and corporate types. it can be a criteria for many reasons, but the intent has to be right and it should not be just means to an end.
at some point all of our families came overseas for a better life in some aspect, intellectual challenge, financial benefits, personal safety etc etc, so we cant really look down at other peoples' desire to do the same
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Every one has a desire to be stable,progressive and to have safety.But I get some people only want it for themselves.But U r very right that the intent has to be right and it should not be just means to an end....!
Please dig deeper and find out what they want out of a husband too, for your own safe and peaceful future.
Well u r right.But one can only dig deeper if the other party is ready to get over basic realities and move on.....!
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^ Dig deeper here at life1 and you'll find enough without needing counter-party endorsement.
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You're talking about guys from overseas, I have seen girls go craaaaaaaazy when they come here from Pakistan and have all this newfound freedom to smoke, drink, go clubbing and wear as little as they want. Then they openly share those pictures on facebook while other fellow friends from back in Pakistan ooh aah over their freedom here. So messed up, seriously.
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Memo to self: take a pic smoking, drinking, in a mini-dress and post it up on facebook