Would it flatter you?

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Discussion of the Bewitchment of the Prophet

In the Book of Medicine of his Sahih, Al-Bukhari recorded that `A’ishah said, "The Messenger of Allah was bewitched until he thought that he had relations with his wives, but he had not had relations with them.‘’ Sufyan said, "This is the worst form of magic when it reaches this stage.‘’ So the Prophet said,

«يَا عَائِشَةُ، أَعَلِمْتِ أَنَّ اللهَ قَدْ أَفْتَانِي فِيمَا اسْتَفْتَيْتُهُ فِيهِ؟ أَتَانِي رَجُلَانِ فَقَعَدَ أَحَدُهُمَا عِنْدَ رَأْسِي وَالْاخَرُ عِنْدَ رِجْلَيَّ، فَقَال الَّذِي عِنْدَ رَأْسِي لِلْاخَرِ: مَا بَالُ الرَّجُلِ؟ قَالَ: مَطْبُوبٌ، قَالَ: وَمَنْ طَبَّهُ، قَالَ: لَبِيدُ بْنُ أَعْصَمَ: رَجُلٌ مِنْ بَنِي زُرَيْقٍ حَلِيفٌ لِيَهُودَ، كَانَ مُنَافِقًا، قَالَ: وَفِيمَ؟ قَالَ: فِي مُشْطٍ وَمُشَاطَةٍ، قَالَ: وَأَيْنَ؟ قَالَ: فِي جُفِّ طَلْعَةٍ ذَكَرٍ، تَحْتَ رَاعُوفَةٍ فِي بِئْرِ ذَرْوَانَ»

(O A'ishah! Do you know that Allah has answered me concerning that which I asked Him Two men came to me and one of them sat by my head while the other sat by my feet. The one who was sitting by my head said to the other one, What is wrong with this man’ The other replied, He is bewitched.' The first one said, Who bewitched him’ The other replied, Labid bin Asam. He is a man from the tribe of Banu Zurayq who is an ally of the Jews, and a hypocrite.’ The first one asked, With what (did he bewitch him)' The other replied, With a comb and hair from the comb.’ The first one asked, Where (is the comb)' The other answered, In the dried bark of a male date palm under a rock in a well called Dharwan.') `A’ishah said, "So he went to the well to remove it (the comb with the hair). Then he said,

«هَذِهِ الْبِئْرُ الَّتِي أُرِيتُهَا، وَكَأَنَّ مَاءَهَا نُقَاعَةُ الحِنَّاءِ،وَكَأَنَّ نَخْلَهَا رُؤُوسُ الشَّيَاطِين»

(This is the well that I saw. It was as if its water had henna soaked in it and its palm trees were like the heads of devils.) So he removed it (of the well). Then I (A'ishah) said, Will you not make this public’ He replied,

«أَمَّا اللهُ فَقَدْ شَفَانِي، وَأَكْرَهُ أَنْ أُثِيرَ عَلَى أَحَدٍ مِنَ النَّاسِ شَرًّا»

(Allah has cured me and I hate to spread (the news of) wickedness to any of the people.)‘’

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It's all psychological - your reaction to your fear.

It's like, when someone I knew developed carpal tunnel syndrome, shortly thereafter my hands started hurting.

I once told my friends about a painful medical conditon I had for 2 days, and after that one of them started getting pains in the same area.

I found out that a fat kid I knew was fat because of a side effect of anti-arthritis medicine he was taking, and then my knee joints started hurting.

Basically, you're having a psychological reaction to his threatening to do something that scares you, and that psychological reaction is manifesting itself through your thinking that you may be liking him.

What I suggest is that you cure your psychological reaction by booking yourself in for some therapy. Ask around for anyone who ran recommend you a good psychologist.

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In fact , as soon as I typed "Carpal tunnel syndrome", my fingers started hurting straight away. This despite me having typed all day before that without any problems.

The way your mind plays tricks on you is sometimes truly amazing.

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Following are the ahadith that I found in Sahih Bukhari. I'm quite positive that they are authentic and not fabricated. Also, it is very well known that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) was under a spell. Hence, the reason why I think (can't remember exactly) Muslims are asked to recite the 3 quls to protect themselves from evil eye and Allahu aalim.

Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400:

 Narrated Aisha:

 Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 490:

 Narrated 'Aisha:

 Magic was worked on the Prophet so that he began to fancy that he was doing a thing which he was not actually doing. One day he invoked (Allah) for a long period and then said, "I feel that Allah has inspired me as how to cure myself. Two persons came to me (in my dream) and sat, one by my head and the other by my feet. One of them asked the other, "What is the ailment of this man?" The other replied, 'He has been bewitched" The first asked, 'Who has bewitched him?' The other replied, 'Lubaid bin Al-A'sam.' The first one asked, 'What material has he used?' The other replied, 'A comb, the hair gathered on it, and the outer skin of the pollen of the male date-palm.' The first asked, 'Where is that?' The other replied, 'It is in the well of Dharwan.' " So, the Prophet went out towards the well and then returned and said to me on his return, "Its date-palms (the date-palms near the well) are like the heads of the devils." I asked, "Did you take out those things with which the magic was worked?" He said, "No, for I have been cured by Allah and I am afraid that this action may spread evil amongst the people." Later on the well was filled up with earth.

Volume 8, Book 75, Number 400:

 Narrated 'Aisha:

 that Allah's Apostle was affected by magic, so much that he used to think that he had done something which in fact, he did not do, and he invoked his Lord (for a remedy). Then (one day) he said, "O 'Aisha!) Do you know that Allah has advised me as to the problem I consulted Him about?" 'Aisha said, "O Allah's Apostle! What's that?" He said, "Two men came to me and one of them sat at my head and the other at my feet, and one of them asked his companion, 'What is wrong with this man?' The latter replied, 'He is under the effect of magic.' The former asked, 'Who has worked magic on him?' The latter replied, 'Labid bin Al-A'sam.' The former asked, 'With what did he work the magic?' The latter replied, 'With a comb and the hair, which are stuck to the comb, and the skin of pollen of a date-palm tree.' The former asked, 'Where is that?' The latter replied, 'It is in Dharwan.' Dharwan was a well in the dwelling place of the (tribe of) Bani Zuraiq. Allah's Apostle went to that well and returned to 'Aisha, saying, 'By Allah, the water (of the well) was as red as the infusion of Hinna, (1) and the date-palm trees look like the heads of devils.' 'Aisha added, Allah's Apostle came to me and informed me about the well. I asked the Prophet, 'O Allah's Apostle, why didn't you take out the skin of pollen?' He said, 'As for me, Allah has cured me and I hated to draw the attention of the people to such evil (which they might learn and harm others with).' "

 Narrated Hisham's father: 'Aisha said, "Allah's Apostle was bewitched, so he invoked Allah repeatedly requesting Him to cure him from that magic)." Hisham then narrated the above narration. (See Hadith No. 658, Vol. 7)
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Istikhara believers debating taweez efficacy. :hehe:

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Thank you Saadiya for making it clear how Rasool Salaala hu WaAlaywasalam (PBUH) was placed under the spell.

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maddy, thank you and your post sounds the most sensible and logical to me. maybe this is what it is. oh i lovvvvvve pathans :love:

LuxuryItem, which istakhara believers? who and what are you talking about??

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I have to stop reading this thread. Every time I see the words "Carpal tunnel syndrome" my fingers start hurting!!! :(

i m naraz
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LOL HA HA HA HA…

maddy, I feel so light :hula: and … lost :rotato:

i will call him tonight :love:

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okay........... so this guy told me today, "I would make one ta'aweez" for you which would forever keep you happy." I was having a sip of tea and I got a cough attack....... cough*cough*cough........ I was like, "WTF, so you ARE into these things???" "No......... again that crap.. I am not into these things but I only make it for good reasons and I have never and would never make one to make you fall in love with me...", He says. "Everyone who does it says he does it for good reasons so who is to decide what good is. It is NEVER good to play with nature." I say. So he says, "It would help you." I said, "So, how has it helped you?" So he goes silent and then he says, "FINE!!! Im not gonna do anything now get that off your mind." And I was quiet lost in thoughts................. Just tell me does it make sense that someone who thinks it is acceptable doing this ta'aweez" sh!t for "good" reasons would not do it for something he thinks is good for him??? And what is good for him may not be good for the other. Who is to decide what good is???

And what does it mean when you purchase some snacks for 5 bucks or so and give a 50 bucks note cz you dont have change and your guy keeps the change in his pocket saying he is short of money. And when he wants to borrow 1000 bucks from you all of a sudden???? What's up with that??

I mean, you know gracefulness in a man is when you are all broke. You do not have a penny but still you offer to pay for your lady. But....... dont you think what I mentioned above would be awkward for a lady and for a man (who does that)?? Why would a man do that?

Am I lost?

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That’s called being a worthless leech today, and being likely to be more of a leech tomorrow.

He’s only in it for the money. My advice: cut and run, never see, talk or listen to him again.

You can do better than that.

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now see, my intuition was right in the beginning but i was ignoring it. got fooled by the pretentious behaviour. didnt want to think wrong about a person who seemed so kind, loving and caring.

now i did tell him three weeks ago to leave me f*cking alone. but guess what......... im still here. what excuse do you make or how do you avoid someone who says with so much determination and assurity, "you can never get away from me." what makes him so sure? and why am i still here when once i had decided i wasnt seeing him again and when i am more ziddi than anyone else on this planet?

----> TimePass
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I don’t know what makes him so sure, but why don’t you try and see how sure he is once you get a court order preventing him from contacting you ever again or coming within a 10 metre radius of you.

Or , if you have any desi guy friends he hasn’t met, pretend that your mother arranged a marriage for you and that you impulsively agreed to it and parade around with the guy friend on your arm in front of this looser leech.

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LOL, maddy. me just saying im not seeing him again literally makes him CRY. he has said i am "zaalim" and have a "pathar ka dil", etc. etc. etc. and when he says, "you cant get away from me." is not some sort of threat but in a way which sounds "romantic"

and also he said, "please meet me one last time and never again. i would never insist again." so when i did, i felt i was really being unfair. and then atleast two guys have told me i do crazy things to get away from guys who want me cz "something" wants me to stay alone forever." so i also doubt if i am being like this cz of that reason. and i do not wanna let anyone else control my decisions.

but actually i am not feeling comfortable with what happened today. i mean i would never do such a thing even with any of my own family members who i know for years.

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Maddy drop it. She likes him.

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:mad: hiccy!!! i dont. i mean i did but i cant accept things which make me uncomfortable. look, for a man, i have a different image and what happened today does not fall in that image.i do not expect a man to act like this.

i am thinking of making up some story of me getting engaged or something. he was really insisting on meeting my dad since he is here. i thought dad wouldnt like him cz he is… i mean cz he cant conversate. my dad says “education” is the most important thing. and he told me whoever you choose, make sure he is “educated”. so now, although he said he left school before completing his diploma for civil engineering but he cant conversate.

but the latest findings… i cant respect anyone into this taaweez and stuff.

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if it works, it may flatten you :slight_smile:

lllllauuutttt ayiiii
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^ then im sure effected cz i cant believe im giving someone so much of my time.

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I’m starting to believe hiccup. You clearly like the attention from this guy which is why you’ll sit down and stuff with him.

I wish you two love birds all the best in your future together :hug:

May it be fun, fruitful and productive :k:

lllllauuutttt ayiiii
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madddyyyyyy!!! :mad:

Kindly go and read my initial post :mad: I cant spend life with someone who is always thinking of “taaweez” to get rid of difficulties and who takes out money from my hand bag without informing me and ASSUMING that i did not know :mad2: