worst in bribery survey

Poor South Asia, this is a curse and I hope someday our countries can break free of this stranglehold…

http://dawn.com/2006/10/05/top19.htm
India ranked worst in bribery survey
*Anti-corruption advocates on Wednesday ranked India as the most corrupt country in the Bribe Payers Index (BPI) of the year 2006.

The Transparency International in its report called on the governments of India, China and Russia to do more to stop their multinational companies from bribing when doing business abroad.

A survey of 30 of the world’s leading exporting countries ranked the three countries at the bottom, with India the worst offender. Switzerland topped the ranking of the Bribe Payers Index 2006.

Officials from the anti-corruption group Transparency International urged the governments of the three fast emerging economies to take a more active role in cleaning up the business practices of their companies.

“Our advice to these countries is to give themselves the legislation that would allow them to prosecute their own state-owned enterprises or their own companies,” said Transparency’s Chair Huguette Labelle.

“But also that we work with these enterprises and companies to help them to ensure that they do not bribe, to help them develop their own codes of conduct, their own practices and ways of doing business that excludes bribing.”

Behind Switzerland, the survey ranked Sweden, Australia, Austria and Canada as the most effective in preventing their companies from bribing. Even countries like the United States, which ranked 9th, came in for some criticism.

“Since the US was one of the first countries to really have legislation to prosecute their own companies if they were bribing abroad, we look to the US in this respect to be a leading country,” Labelle said. “And hope that the next time they might be at the top of the list.”

The Transparency ranked countries according to their effectiveness in preventing their companies from bribing when they do business abroad. Its Bribe Payers Index 2006 limited itself to the world’s 30 largest exporting countries.

On a scale from 10 for no corruption, down to 1 for rampant corruption, the highest score went to Switzerland with 7.81, with the lowest score going to India at 4.62.

The survey’s results found companies bribing more often in developing countries, where the means to combat corruption are weak.

“Bribing companies are actively undermining the best efforts of governments in developing nations to improve governance, and thereby driving the vicious cycle of poverty,” Labelle said.

The results were based on interviews with more than 11,000 business people in 125 countries.*

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Bribery Index survey irks Indian business leaders
http://in.today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=businessNews&storyID=2006-10-04T195900Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-270724-1.xml

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cricket chirping

let's blame this on the Muslims in India.. (this should drag them Indians out of their hideouts)

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Whats wrong with you? Everyone knows the ISI did it…there is solid undeniable proof that will be handed over any moment now.

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India has won the Championship :dhimpak: India beat China

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heh y’all probably bribed China in order to take the #1 spot :slight_smile:

reminds me of the joke when pak was #2 on corrupt countries list during BBs rule, we used to joke that we had paid of Nigerians to take the top spot.

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Come back to Pakistan 'bhai', corruption has only got worse, only difference is now most goes into Army pockets

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perception of corruption has gone up. Based on studies and statements of IMF and WB as well as economist etc, things are def better than they were under BB.

so if someone says there is still a lot of corruption, I would agree with that, but it is not more than what it was back then.

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oh bhai kahan kahan say informations latay ho??..corruption is increasing rapidly..more then ever before…name any department and u will come accross only one thing “corruption”…rapid corruption increasment can be observe from mustafa kamal statement few months back " agar mein corruption par logon ko job say hata do to 90% civic center par job karna wala banda gia"…

and again,y u r comparing musharaf to bb??..y dont u talk abt all those negative factors tht r increasing…by the way,leave corruption alone,street crimes in karachi r spreading like wild fire and i hope we karachi people could see a world record of crimes and corruption…

another extremely poor post by u.

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first of all, mod you may want to split this thread thsi was about the brivery survey and is going somewhere else.

**oh bhai kahan kahan say informations latay ho??....corruption is increasing rapidly..more then ever before....name any department and u will come accross only one thing "corruption"....
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aur aap kahan say information latay ho? please quote some evidence and not just perceptions. thank you

rapid corruption increasment can be observe from mustafa kamal statement few months back " agar mein corruption par logon ko job say hata do to 90% civic center par job karna wala banda gia".....

right, so we use mustafa kamal statement as a quantitative proof (which it is not)

and again,y u r comparing musharaf to bb??....

why shouldn't I?

Why dont u talk abt all those negative factors tht r increasing...

why dont you, I mean every thread does not have be be a grand daddy of all threads with the kitchen sink thrown in, please be my guest and open a thread about whatever factor you want to compare with whatever regime and make your case. Here the statement was that Pakistan was ranked #2 in corruption and now itis nowhere near that. Both are facts and you are welcome to go check those.

by the way,leave corruption alone,

kyun?

street crimes in karachi r spreading like wild fire and i hope we karachi people could see a world record of crimes and corruption..........

Indeed there is a lot of street crime, I would be interested in knowing the rates of those, I dont have any information that suggests that street crime is higher than in previous regimes or not, so would welcome that data.

I would also like to get my hands on data regarding violent crimes, you know sectarian and ethnic killings. the type of mohajir-sindhi or mohajir-pathan type of stuff that went on in Karachi. I would also like to see stats on killing and harassment by student wings of political parties, you know the ghunda gardee of janiaat, NSF, PSF, APMSO etc which at times had the colleges shuttered for weeks at a time.

I mean it would really be fantastic to have a grid that has by year # of crimes, murders, and all that jazz, go ahead put it together. I would have no issue accepting facts period.

another extremely poor post by u.

Thank you, I would ahve been concerned if you had thought it was an excellent post ;)

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^^ Uskay paas special news network coverage hai...:D.

Haris, I would definitely love to see them blame ISI on this one yet again.

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Because ISI are angels, and have never done any wrong :rolleyes:

Making a joke out of a issue, does not reduce the fact

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Array Real Deal Sahib itni naraazgi kiyoon? ISI is very bad just look:

I S I: I is the 9th letter of the alphabet and S in the 19th so:

9+19-9 = 19 (Look like a nasty number…also, the average age of servicemen in Vietnam was N-N-NNineteen!!!) coincidence???

But wait!

19 + 647 (There must be a room 647 in ISI HQ) = 666 The mark of the beast!! So ISI is evil QED!

Abb Khush?

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In world war 2 the avg age of a combat soldier was 26,

in vietnam it was 19…19..n-n-n-n-n- nineteen

vietnaam…saigon..vietnaam saigon..purple heart ..saigon
i wasn’t really sure what was going on

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What about the FSF and the hitmen jiyalaz? Are they angels?

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heheh.. you are absolutely right buddy.. ISI is definetly Angel but only for “Terrorists” :naraz:

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wah bhai wah...app ki baatein wah bhai wah...
meri jaan,i live in karachi..not in atlanta.... there is not a single person in pakistan who says corrutpion has gone down...bhes ki aekh surveys aur reports ki...y common people cannot see any difference???....

take police department or income tax department or any other...u will find tht corruption has increased....hamari government cheezein to sasti kara nahi paiye..stockexchange ki corruption evident honay kay baadbhi kuch na kar paiye...aur app boltay ho currption khatam....

corruption is increasing in pakistan as well as street crimes...pakis have introduced new industry in the world "mobile chori"..musharaf ko itna support na karo...ground facts par zara nazar dalo...pakistan defence aur cliftion say bahar akar shoru hota hai meri jaan;)...

about political parties in universities,unka koi kam nahi...bas phadda karo...ajj ka street ka laundapower mangta hai dost aur larkiyon ko impress karnay kay liye aur woh yeh jamaatein dayti hai...

i m in karachi university doing my BBA...so i know very well how much entertaining it can be to watch jamiat and apmso guys fighting with each other but also dangerous...but there is one advantage..university ki chutti ho jati hai...Allah qazi hussian aur altah hussian ko zindagi day takay woh dangafasaad karay aur university band hoti rahay;)

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*wah bhai wah...app ki baatein wah bhai wah...
meri jaan,i live in karachi..not in atlanta.... there is not a single person in pakistan who says corrutpion has gone down...bhes ki aekh surveys aur reports ki...y common people cannot see any difference???.... *

There is not a single person in Pakistan? ..really. If i find oe person of the 160 or so million then?

Perception and reality are two differen things.

take police department or income tax department or any other...u will find tht corruption has increased....hamari government cheezein to sasti kara nahi paiye..stockexchange ki corruption evident honay kay baadbhi kuch na kar paiye...*aur app boltay ho currption khatam....*

show me where I said corruption khatam, I simply stated that all major rankings have been more positive for Pakistan. we were raned as #2 in corruption behind nigeria, as far as my knowledge goes we have not been ranked #1 in that report, so by that token we are not as bad..

I see what the issue is, you have no idea what I am stating :)

btw when you talk of income tax corruption, its not just some govt officers, the qaum is itself cheats, thats why our income tax collection is so low. if ppl wanted to pay their taxes they could no one is twisting their arms to pay bribes and not pay their taxes. qaum needs a big boot on their butt to straigten their crookedness

as far as why common people cant see any difference, I dont know.

cheezain sasti hona is not a sign of corruption but a sign of inflation:)

corruption is increasing in pakistan as well as street crimes...pakis have introduced new industry in the world "mobile chori"..

yet again, its your perception, the reports that ihave read from economist to IMF reports state quite opposite point of view i.e. corruption is down.

Pakistanis hae introducd mobiel chorri? do you really believe that has never happened anywhere and has not been an issue in other places? Mobile chorri was big stuff in US and UK before most ppl in pakistan even knew what a mobile was.

musharaf ko itna support na karo...ground facts par zara nazar dalo...

Whether or not I support musharraf does not change the facts. as far as ground facts go, your perceptions are not grund facts ..period.

pakistan defence aur cliftion say bahar akar shoru hota hai meri jaan;)...

itna jalla na karro :) waisay I am veru familar with places like shah faisal colony #2 and #3, Korangi J area and K area, Gulshan, FB Area block 11, etc.

so dont give me the defense and clifton BS. I dont live there and I did not live ther when I did live in Pakistan.

about political parties in universities,unka koi kam nahi...bas phadda karo...ajj ka street ka laundapower mangta hai dost aur larkiyon ko impress karnay kay liye aur woh yeh jamaatein dayti hai...

i m in karachi university doing my BBA...so i know very well how much entertaining it can be to watch jamiat and apmso guys fighting with each other but also dangerous...but there is one advantage..university ki chutti ho jati hai...Allah qazi hussian aur altah hussian ko zindagi day takay woh dangafasaad karay aur university band hoti rahay;)

^ since you are doig your BBA I assume they teach statistics at IBA, atleast they used to teach it there when it was a halfway decent institution.

anyways, while there are merits in non scientific qualitative polling, it does not come near to quantitative analysis. I ask again, what is Pakisans rank on the corruption index ..where we were #2 at some point in time.

since you are doing your BBA now, you probably have no clue about the levels of ghunda gardee of mid 80's to late 90's in colleges and universities that Jamiat NSF and assorted groups were doing.

you talk of ground realities, look up stats on violent crimes now versus back then.

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^ fraudz bhai, what makes you think this creature studies in the IBA?

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there are other options for BBA in Karachi University? I thought IBA was the only karachi univ college authorized to give BBA and MBA degrees.