Can someone tell me how the Islamic rule about making it haram to have any images of the prophet Mohammed has resulted in people not worshipping him as an idol?
I believe the exact opposite has happened.
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Link or proof to where he is being worshipped as a religious "idol?"
What? wait? what, you mean the protests in Denmark?
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define worship?
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He is being funny and sarcastic…
He is equating the love and devotion we feel for the Prophets of Allah :swt: to worshipping them…
If that was the case, then many people would be worshipping their parents or their girlfriends…
It’s OK from where he is coming from to fight someone if he makes a pass at your girlfriend but no probs if someone else is disrespected…The same girlfriend which can ditch him for another boyfriend tomorrow…
But if a Muslim should love the person, who brought them Allah :swt:'s greatest gift, Islam, it’s worshipping him…
But hey…What else should we expect from Stu?
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Well for starters he hasn’t become a pasty blue-eyed blond imposter with a penchant for the odd spliff and other things besides. Thats got to count for something. :k:
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I’m actually being extremely serious. It’s interesting that you chose those two words Lajawab. Here are some definitions for you:
wor·ship
The reverent love and devotion accorded a deity, an idol, or a sacred object.
i·dol·ize
To regard with blind admiration or devotion.
Maybe it would be easier to explain how most Muslims’ view of Mohammed does not equate to worship? What else could the kneejerk reaction that muslims have when their prophet is “insulted” be called, other than blind devotion?
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So you’re tactic for defending insults to your religion’s prophet is to belittle and insult the christian prophet? Does that make you feel superior somehow?
Jesus is viewed by christians as the son of God, but they won’t riot, boycott and demand an apology for this type of insult. Is it because they don’t truly worship Jesus or because they are somehow more secure in their beliefs?
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OK…So it is blind devotion…
So now you have destroyed Masajid, desecrated the Quran, insulted the Prophet :saw:, called us terrorists, bombed Muslim homes and cities, killed Muslims in the thousands, continue to terrorize many other Muslim nations with your threats of violence…
Is there anything else I have left out that you would like to do or is there still some bloodlust left?
Would your ‘tolerance’ finally be appeased when each and every Muslim on the planet has been vaporized?
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If someone told me that he brushed his teeth like his girlfriend (even though there has been advancements in oral hygience in the past 1400 years), ate only what she ate, threatened violence if someone ever made a depiction of her, and looked at *every *facet of her life (as reported by others) to follow her exact ways as his path to heaven, I’d say – dude, save yourself the shrink bill – you definitely worship and idolize this girl.
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Well, since in the years that you have been on GS and if after all that time, this is the only thing that you've remotely learned about Islam or Muslims, then dude, your learning curve must be preeetty high...
I mean, most feral children would know more about Islam than you do if this is still all you have learnt...What a waste...
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Oh, so I am supposed to display all my knowledge of Islam in one post and you can say something stupid like comparing the love of the prophet to that of a girlfriend? And not get called out on it?
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Interesting call for tolerance from a tolerant person:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=205298
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Are you seriously thinking that I would equate the illegitimate and ill begotten love of a girlfriend to the love of a Prophet of God?
Is that what you have derived out of my post?
I can’t work this out with you here Sem…I am sensing absolutely zilch comprehension from your end…
I mean, I can understand someone’s ignorance regarding religion…Could be anything, misinformation, personal bias, brainwashing, propaganda e.t.c…
But to have read my post the way you did is actually funny…And judging from your comprehension skills, I will not even begin to decipher my post to you…
This is where the great tolerance of Islam comes in…“You to your way and me to mine…”…
Problem is, you and your ilk have trouble letting Muslims go their own way…Insult, blame, insinuate, abuse, insult, label, stereotype is your way…
Just know this: The Prophet of Allah :saw: is beyond your jokes or humour…It will not be tolerated…He is dead, he is revered and he is honoured…
You wanna talk about him, discuss him, criticise him, that’s fine…Mockery and insults of him will in no way be tolerated…Remember that…
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Ahh, an admitted idolater. Your prophet would no doubt be disappointed.
Frankly, I would be happy with the complete cessation of whining & complaining. You can call it “quietlust” if you wish. Then again, it is just freedom of speech in practive, along with a strong dose of hypocrisy.
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Answer me this thing, both you and Sem…
Why is it so important and necessary for you to insult our Holy Prophet :saw:? What kind of pleasure or sensation do you get if he is mocked or insulted?
Just 2 simple questions answered with simple answers would be appreciated…
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Where did your defensiveness come from? I responded when you flippantly minimized the use of the words love and devotion to deflect a point. And you wanna criticize my ignorance of religion. This from a guy who claims to be humble and insufficient in his own knowledge. So quick to judge others, smug in (what you think) is knowledge. Then have the gall to claim tolerance as well. You remind me more of Bill O’Reilly than Stu does (sorry Stu).
Don’t insinuate that I am trying to your insult your prophet. While I don’t pretend to understand the idolization and reverence at the same time as denying it, I would not insult someone’s belief that is so deeply held.
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I said simple answer…
Everytime you see someone supporting something, it is only because they agree with or are willing to do the same as the one who carried something out…(Isn’t that why we have the terrorist sympathizer law?)
So in a way, from World Affairs to this thread, you have supported only one thing: That the Danes were right in insulting our Holy Prophet :saw: which is the same as saying, that any chance I get, I’d do the same…
Well, coming from you, that’s not surprising…
Now to the second part of the question:
What pleasure do you derive from it?
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Simple answer: I don't get any pleasure from it. I defend democratic rights every day, it doesn't mean I agree with all of them. You can't pick and choose freedoms based on what insults one group. People insult things I hold dear every day right on this board.
I never said the Danes 'were in the right'. I said they 'had a right'. By trying to put thoughts and intentions in others' words, you are either being intellectually dishonest or intellectually clueless. Simple question: which is it?
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Neither…I don’t even know what being intellectually dishonest and intellectually clueless is…
But now coming back to my question…
You say you defend democratic rights everyday yet it doesn’t mean you agree with all of them…I don’t get it…You defend rights which you know are wrong? Why?
The reason I asked you why you hate everything about the values the Muslims hold dear is beacause you seem to come up with everything that is contrary to Muslim values and which Muslims oppose…(Gay pride march in Medina, insulting the Prophet of Allah :saw:, allowing non-Muslims in Makkah e.t.c.)…
OK, forget about values…If mockery, insults and abuse hurled at Muslims are the democratic ‘rights’, then what do you say about people who bring into court libel suits, defamation, character assassination? Isn’t it the right of anyone to say anything about anyone to anybody? Why these then?
Actually, in all your posts in WA, your ‘were in the right’ or ‘had a right’ thing didn’t come up…I don;t see you condemning the Danes anywhere infact a few of your snippets in WA say you support the Danes in what they did…
Because it’s like saying, I support the right for anyone to punch anyone but it doesn’t mean they are right…
Which brings us back to, why is it necessary for you to insult the Prophet :saw:?
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christians worship their prophet as son of god, hence u think that muslims r also worshipping muhammad (saw)....
age old saying "one sees his ills in others as well"