World's collapse, India's rise?

The United States economy is on life support from Japan, China and the OPEC countries.
The dollar is about to be devalued by about 50 to 80 per cent.
America’s $3 billion-a-day deficit, which is driving the world economy, cannot be sustained.
The world’s economy is tottering on the verge of a major crisis.
The United Nations’ Millennium Development Goals are a means for aid agencies to perpetuate, an attempt by governments to show that they were doing something, when actually they aren’t.
The 21st century will be known as the Indian century. The Asian giant is in the “sweet spot” of development.
These were some of the opinions hurled about and contested at a discussion about India’s Economic Policy: Strengths, Weaknesses and Prospects for the Future, as part of the Asia Society’s ongoing 16th Asian Corporate Conference at the Grand Hyatt, Mumbai.
And everyone was bullish on India.
“I have invested in India, I’m making money and I’m happy,” began Clyde Prestowitz, one of the two speakers of the discussion, who Richard C Holbrooke, the moderator, described as “one of the leading experts on international trade in the United States, and one of the most outspoken.”
“He (Prestowitz) has written a number of books, each extremely provocative,” noted Holbrooke, chairman, Asia Society.
“In Japan, he is particularly famous, but not always loved,” Holbrooke added, referring to Trading Places, Prestowitz’s book that looks at Japan-United States commercial ties.
Prestowitz, president of the think tank Economic Strategy Institute, said everybody knew India had problems, such as red tape and lack of infrastructure.
“You try to go from Electronic City to Leela Hotel (in Bangalore) and you realise India has infrastructure problems,” he said.
Instead, he wanted to talk about some problems “not so usually talked about.”

One of which was the model of development India would choose.
Prestowitz, a Ronald Raegan administration adviser-turned severe Bush critic and the author of the book Three Billion Millionaires, said the Western world’s and the US’ model of heavy consumption – which is identical to India’s – was not sustainable.
The role of the United States in the world economy is to buy, he said.
China had a problem in over investing, Prestowitz continued. For every dollar of GDP, China invests half, resulting in tremendous capital in manufacturing.
“If you set up a plant in China, the government gives you half the capital,” he pointed out. But the main buyer for the manufactured products, US, could not go on buying, he said.
He cited the recent controversy over the handing of management of some US ports to Dubai firms as example that the political backlash to the just-buy model’s tottering had begun. He said there was a legislation pending in the US Senate to put 27.5 per cent tariff on all Chinese imports.
“But, there would never be an India-US trade crisis,” he added, concluding that all Asian currencies were under-valued and they would be rationalised against the dollar soon.
Surjit S Bhalla, principal and chief operating officer, Oxus investments, who was the other speaker at the discussion, said, “India is in the sweet spot of development.”
The die is cast for 8 per cent growth without any further reforms, Bhalla said, pointing at the healthy Indian economic growth in the last three years, which was a great upswing from the last 50 years of below 5 per cent growth.
What India had witnessed in the last 15 years was completely unprecedented, he felt.
According to him, the rise of the Indian middle class with its purchasing power was a revolution that would drive the world economy.
“These people (the Indian middle class) have made money the old fashioned way,” he said. They had invested in education and they were enforcing policy, he emphasised.
Though the infrastructure problem was a reality, no country had built infrastructure before it needed to, except Franklin Roosevelt after the Great Depression, Bhalla pointed out.
“China faced the infrastructure 10 years ago, we are facing it now,” he said, confident that the problem would be solved.
When countered with questions about problems with social services like healthcare, Bhalla said India spends 5.1 per cent of its GDP on healthcare.
The problem was not with spending, the problem was with delivery of services, which was in the government’s hand, he said.
When asked why India has not managed to attract $5 billion foreign direct investment when China attracts over $450 billion, he pointed out that the efficiency of capital usage is more in India than China.
That was contested by Hang Lung Group Chairman Ronnie Chan, one of China’s most powerful businessmen, who said China’s capital mostly went into manufacturing which had higher costs than services – which India concentrated on – which had less set up costs.
Bhalla acknowledged there were hurdles for India, but he was confident the Great Indian Middle Class would surmount all odds.
About the threat to the world economy from the US economy’s apparently imminent collapse, Bhalla quipped, "As an investor, I have learnt to never bet against America

source: www.rediffmail.com

Re: World's collapse, India's rise?

Right like the Indian economy is not dependent on ODA, Loans, Japanese technology and OPEC oil.

Before you go around spouting nonsense, look at ASEAN and China. Look at how they have been doing well consistantly better than India for longer than India.

Idiots.

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lol

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Good point. That is why they get ruled by many nations. Because they live in fool’s paradise. Look how are they ignoring their competitors…

Super idiots… merged in inferiority complex :naraz:

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Indians are a superpower now?

Dhoti daalkhor superpowaaar :hehe:

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guys, have u read the thread completely before replying???

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indians are not superpower
INDIA is a superpower

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Atleast we dont have people getting killed by incursion of US airforce into our land.

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Indian attack. They all attack together, still don't make sense

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hey guys, what's that???
can u elaborate

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o bhai, you are still drunk.

India is no super power right now, maybe it will be in 50 years after economic growth, but by then china would be the strongest country

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How can you be a superpower when you have 200 million baby who are under the poverty line? When people starve and you can't protect the rights of your minorities?

Economically speaking 10 years means jack ****. China has had 30 years of economic growth and stability. Yet do you hear the chinese spout off nonsense like this?

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^ No, we don’t. :cb:

I suppose they’re too busy progressing than to be exaggerating where they stand in the world. The amount of transactions they make speaks volumes about China and its economy. They don’t have to go around announcing it.

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:cb::hayaa:

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india with his current pace of exponential development will not take 50 years. I’m not at all drunk…i can tell you this because i’m right in the middle of it. yes india has her problems but good thing is that it is all being addressed.
http://www.business-today.com/btoday/index.html??
I hope u know the meaning of word ‘exopnential’… It won’t take 5 years to reach the double digit growth. that’s the safe fig. don’t get surprise if india achives this in next year. After that if indian continue, she can surpass china in next 15-20 years

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Right and your population growth rate is what? You will surpass China in the amount of mouths you need to feed in a few years. Yet economically you won't be able to sustain your population. What happens then?

Bah just look at your FDI rules, archaic at best. Change your FDI policies and maybe i might consider thinking you have a chance. Till you fix your infrastructure issues, India is going no where.

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There are issues which India is grappling with, saying we are SuperPower isn't right...... We haven't been able to lobby for permanent seat in UN.
At the same time saying that India is doomed and going no where is also wrong.
Like any issue/ country/ person/ group there are two faces of this coin Positive and Negative as well. Good point is the that positive face is shown more often in last 6-7 years. Let me write some stuff off the cuff...
The SenSex crossed 11,000/- today. This ain't funny ..We were struggling at 7000 or lower for years.
The economy is sustaining GDP growth rate of 7% +
27 billionnaire from India, maximum to join the list this year
Almost every India company worth its name is buying companies in US and Europe and these are large deals, not buying smaller companies.
Mckinsey says that in IT ITES space India will have three Dollar 10billion+ companies by 2010. and other 7 will be billion+
Intel building chip design facility to Hyderabad, investment USD 3 billion (i.e Rs. 12,000 crore)
Dell, IBM, HP, Infy, Wipro, Accenture said that during next 2 years they need 10000, 30000, 15000, 25000, 20000, 15000 more professionals. this is tip of the iceberg since this could be less than 10% of total requirement from this industry.
Now competition for investment is not with India but between bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai with Chief Ministers workign it out with companies
Ford has shifted its component mfg as primary focus to India
Textiles are ready to take off with Quota regime going over time till 2010, (this will help pakistan as well)
India makes US change policies to sign Nuclear Power deal with India for its energy requirements
The growth has shifted to 20 Class II cities, which are growing faster than Metros during last year.
Educational institutes are blazing trail with palcements as well as with growing clout and rankings worldwide. IIMs and IITs are opening branches in other countries.
Infy/ Wipro are hiring Whites from US Universities (though in small numbers yet) for India postings, and they are joining.
India has food surplus big time and shown that it can produce more than it needs even during draught years.
There are challenges
The democratic system has sustained though its not perfect, it has both the evils present of being hijacked by minoritism as well by majoritism.
Judiciary system still remains slow and needs reform
Our relationships with our neighbours can at best be called lukewarm.
Food supply chain still slow and leaky
Corruption is still needs to be put in control
Public participation in governance is still limited to voting only
There is surely a big challenge of assimilating many a groups in mainstream. Only giving common laws doesn't help. Both minority appeasement and majoritism need to stop..

Over all, we are seeing more and more positives lately. Which were missing earlier...... our issues are structural, and its on all Indians to see that we get them straightened out to become a SuperPower, Than we will not need to convince anybody that we are a SuperPower, since we will be..........
We are on right track, but have challenges those can derail us..

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Its so hilarious even to talk about India and economy in grand scheme of things... In US each year an average person spends more on toilet paper compared to what an average person earns in India..

Mod, please move this thread to Jokes forum...

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Ok, now we are turning abusive as usual...
Being Ostrich doesn't help anybody...........

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facts are not abuse facts are facts....