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^ of all what Isa (as) taught to his people about the Oneness of Allah and to follow His Commands, what they gathered is that "he was a peac loving man"....
and now the so called moderate muslims r doing the same with Muhammad (saw)....
go out and see how many battles he won....
go out and see why he forgave those who he did....
and go read in history that when Makkah was conquered, he ordered some people to be killed even if they were found sticking to the Kaaba (knowing that bloodshed in the Holy City is haraam)....
some things r not to be forgiven....
but the westernized muslims have to please their masters, cuz u live in their land and eat from their hands....
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battles he won in the name of ALLAH.
if the people were killed in the name of ALLAH.
i think you should read the history carefully.
he did not fight with people because they insulted him or his people.
i think you have forgot for what he did fight.read the history again.
when the makkah was conquered i think you forgot his order never raise your sword until someone raises sword at you.no common people were killed.
the one who will take refuge even in his own house dont say anything to him.
and which masters you are talking about.those who are using islam for their own benefit.those masters those who made you terrorsit for their own benefit.
for whom all the suicide attackers are giving their lives.
those masters of such people are happy with those muslims who are creating fuss in this world for their master's benefit.
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armughal, Sharaabi...
You two need to calm down...you're making light of and picking and choosing traditions to your liking.
Faisal as Salafi's stance is what you should be adopting...
As for the fugitives in Mecca, their execution had more to do with the stratagem of war than personal grudges. They were all high profile inciters against the Prophet, and arguably were instrumental in prolonging the conflict...and I shouldn't need to remind you that our situation is in no way as dire as the Prophet's (pbuh) was...we're just unthinking and lazy.
now they know the ongoing reaction of muslims world over but reprinting them again to boost sales of their respective newspapers, isnt that a deliberate fingering .
doesnt it show that those countries who r printing them again have no respect for the muslim minorities in theor country?
if they can defy the violent protests n not fear any retaliation,wat wud have been their stance if the peace card had been played?
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The U.S. response contrasted with European governments, which have tended to acknowledge tension between free speech and respect for religion but have generally accepted papers’ rights to print the cartoons.
In an interview with La Repubblica daily, European Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini said the European Union could not apologize for the offence caused.
“No, it’s not Europe’s duty, nor do I think it is the duty of (Danish) Prime Minister Rasmussen. We don’t have the power to apologize in the name of the press. That would be violating the basis of freedom of the press. If they feel it is right, it is up to the editors and the authors of the cartoons to apologize to those who feel offended," Frattini said.
continue peaceful negotiations?
peaceful protests wud have led to the same situation as now,just a bit later.
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Could a European Newspaper ever do this to Jews? God forbid anyone ever say anything against the Jews, suddenly they are labeled as antisemetic and the Europeans fall all over each other trying to apologize. Yet this happens to Muslims, and its considered freedom of press?
You know its illegal to claim that Hallocaust nevver happened in France and Germany?!
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****Aside from the large demonstrations today, what sort of reaction did you hear from more moderate Palestinians?
****Surprising anger. We spoke today to Dr. Asad Abu Sharak, a professor of linguistics at Al Azhar University in Gaza. He is considered to be a moderate and belongs to a group that sponsors an interfaith dialog with Christian and Jews, called Sabel. Sharak said that he believes that this is part of a conspiracy against the Muslim community and “this is a premeditated campaign against the Muslims on the part of the West.”
***He says that the publication of these cartoons is causing “a clash of civilizations that it will widen the gap of misunderstanding between the West and the East.” *** He said he believed that this was an example of a double standard, that when someone denigrates the Holocaust they throw them in jail. But when someone denigrates the religious figure that Muslims hold most dear, they call it freedom of speech. He believes that the publication of the cartoons is actually a “premeditated crime” against Muslims and that “those people who published those cartoons should be brought to court.”
And this is coming from someone who is considered to be very moderate, but this was his attitude. Sharak lived in Ireland eight years and lived and taught at the University of Michigan for a year. He doesn’t see this as an isolated incident, but rather as a campaign against Islam, and he was very vehement about that.
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where is the sahabi who got himself killed but refused to say a bad word to the Prophet (saw), and here the muslims found that when someone insults ur prophet u become tolerant....
i dont know whether to laugh or cry at this!!!!
Allah? lol, where you live bro/sis? I think ot in Germany! They have made Cartoons of God in the German Newspaper "Welt-Kompakt" already!
You what the Problem is? We don´t have educated, clearly minded muslim brothers and sisters! We need a Group of People who can tell the Western World about the real Islam! Someone who could open the eyes of tose people and it´s really breaking my heart in two, this is not my faith, religion, like we are resperesenting it!
We can´t rely on politicians, they are all corrupt!
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U guys are say that RASULLHA would have reacted normaly YES he would have but have u ever thoght how the sahaba aikrams would have reacted they were gona kill thos have u ever thoght if that have made ur mother father or sista,s cartoons in realy bad way i hope u no wot i mean or if that came in front of ur face and said GALI to ur mother father i bet u guys wre gonna take some action against it but wy not about :saw: u guys are saying it happend and we have to live with it I DONT THINK SO RASULLHA is our beloved nabi and habeeb of ALLHA he is not like us and hum log kabi be un kay mubarik paun ke khak be nahi ban sakty i think that should be killd were ever seen he is WAJBUL QATAL we have to take action against it if we call our selves muslim have u ever thoght that we are the blessed umha Rasullha have cried for us ungratful peeps he cried for our forgivenes and because of Hazrat mohammed :saw: we will be forgiven on HASHAR:insha: un ki rehmat hammy roz - hashar talash kary ge or who humary ley allha:swt: kay samny sajdy say us waqat tuk nahi uthy gain jub tuk un ka aik be ummati jahunm say nahi bahar aya u think we deserve that being a female we should be more gratful cos of RASULLHA we got respect peeps of mukha used to burry their doghters live jewish of that time use to tie thier females outside the hous wen it was their time of month thos peeps use to kill widos they had no respect for them they thight women are lanat and he proved them wrong by marrying divorceee, wido he told peeps that women are not lanat if she is doghter she is blessing from allha if she is mother your jannat is is beanth her feet if she is wife the one who keeps his wife safe love her respect her is the gratest of all I AM SORY I WENT TO TOTALY DIFFRENT TOPIC BUT I THINK BEING HIS UMATI WE ATLEAST SHOULD NOT SAY THAT IT HAPPEND AND WE SHOULD JUST LIVE WITH IT AND ITS COS OF US MUSLIM THEY DONE THAT YES MAY BE WE GIVE THEM THE WRONG IMAJ ON ISLAM BUT STILL NOT ALL OF US ARE LIKE THAT I RESPECT OTHER RELIGION AND WOULD NOT FORCE ANY1 TO ISLAM COS THTAS WOT ISLAM TEACH ME TO RESPCET OTHER PEOPLE AND NOT KILL OTHER INOCENT PEOPLE BUT ARE U GUYS STUPID (SORY JUST HAD TO SAY THAT) THEY ARE INSULTING ISLAM THESE GORYS ARE SCARED OF ISLAM COS ITS SPREADING VERY FAST AFTER SEP 11 AND THEY WANT PEOPLE TO BELIVE THAT ISLAM TEACHES VIOLINCE BUT ITS NOT REALY WORKING COS PEOPLE ARE STILL CONVERTING 2 ISLAM IT IS WAR AGAINST ISLAM NOT TERARESIM (SORY FOR GOING OF TOPIC) FIDAKA NAFSI YA RASULLHA
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are u muslim:rolleyes: BEING ANGRY IS NATURAL JUST TEL ME ONE WOULD U NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THE PERSON WHO PRINT A PICTURE OF SOMEONE U LOVE 2MUCH IN VERY BAD WAY EVEN GIVE GALI OR SAY SOMTHING COMPLETELY WRONG WICH IS NOT TRUE WOULD U NOT FEEL ANGRY EVEN FOR 1 MIN WOULD U NOT SAY SOMTHING
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Agree** “FIDAKA NAFSI YA RASULLHA”**
But do u think killing the cartoonist or eidtor or any danish for the sake of revance would stop such incidents?? We should do what is in best interest of islam. Tolerance is what Rasullah preached all his life.
As i have said earlier protest is inevitable but put a sense to it.
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U JUST DONT GET IT DO U DONT WE EVEN HAVE RIGHT TO BE ATLEAST ANGRY YES U RIGHT ISLAM TEACHES TOLRANCE AND YEA WE SHOULD DO WAT IS BEST FOR ISLAM I AGREE BUT SAYING THAT WE JUST HAVE TO LIV WITH IT AND GIVING REMARKS “IS THAT ANOTHER ARAB GETTING HIGH” IS NOT RIGHT I JUST HATE PEOPLE SAYING KAY IT IS ALL BECAUSE OF US MUSLIMS:( NO ITS NOT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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ok i wont do it again but i am not sory for wat i have wrot
Imran bro been there don that no more talks dont u get it these gory want islam to be finshed DONT THINK SO:insha: IT NEVA WIL we sit here in our warm beds and call these people terrosts:rolleyes: u say we need to talk yes we should islam dos not teach kill innocent people yes we should talk but but it dos not help us a man who was gora not muslim he has worked for USA for years and he left it now he said on the live t.v that war is against islam not terrorsim he said attck on iraq was planned month ago and now its irans turn and that is why i have left my job because i was given the file and there was big list of muslim countries which they are planning to attck so there is no point of talking cos no1 is litsing to us:rolleyes:
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I won’t be surprised to find iran under foreign siege or put it clearly US / Isreali attack on iran is on the cards. But what iran is doing??? They are dumb stupid ppl, repeating the very same mistake as of saddam. Shouts, accusations and threats is what iran can give. Do they really have the force, ammo and skills to fight against world alliance?
War is not a solution to our problems we need to be realistic. NO, angels won’t come to save us.. miracle happens but they only once in a blue moon.
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My .02, is just that I guess there are all types of people in this world, you’re going to see all kinds of people, who are going to say a lot of different things. If they are going to curse the prophet then let them, who are we to judge?, that’s God’s job (We can do ours by ignoring these people).
It’s sad to see that we are just proving what kind of people we are…..some of us….who are representing all of us.