Wondering how the Prophet might have responded to the cartoons..

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Quite frankly, I think the scale of protests is justified, though not any violence or destruction of property. Given the amount muslim and anti-muslim rhetoric that has taken centerstage around the globe thanks to OsamaBinLaden, Zawahiri et al. it is impossible to consider that the newspaper would not have known that this would create a furor.

What exactly was their purpose? To show that we have freedom to insult others, their beliefs and their sentiments? I preach freedoms but this is not freedom, just utter stupidity borne of wanting to insult and outrage muslims, knowingly.

I personally don't care whether somebody draws a cartoon of whatever their whim and fancy dictates. A newspaper commissioning 40 cartoonists to 'test their courage to stand up to the threat of islam' is going overboard.

Just like ahmadinejad's statement about holocaust - his intention was simply to provoke and cause pain to those who suffered there.

That said, those muslims protesting this, including armughal, would hopefully stop insulting other religions and beliefs in future. I recall armughal recently wrote in the cricket section something to the effect that all non-muslims will burn in hell if they don't convert.

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Well, were gonna have to live with it somehow, although that doesnt mean we have to cater to the changing world by allowing anyone to walk all over our beliefs. Compramise is the way foward.

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ok sunny boy, dig me out a religion which says that followers of other religions r going to heaven…

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Hiding behind semantics like a true coward.

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^ u r a muslim????
tell me what Quran says about the issue....

or do u diss Quran's words just u do mine????

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Problem with the likes of u is their insecurity, questioning others to seek justification for their personal inadequate existence. Hiding behind semantics is your only refuge, fact is u have been dissing other religious beliefs profusely, where does Quran give u the right to do so? Nowhere, but then again when ppl become Firaoun on earth they can use any religious text for their own agenda.

Phelay jaake Quran ka sahee mathlub samjho, when u realize Allah is Raab ul alimeen and Rehman for the entire universe then u will understand how wrong ppl like u r who keep dissing other religious beliefs, Allah is the creator of this universe which includes Muslims, hindus, jews, xtians, agnostics et al. Whether they r right or wrong only God knows, those who take on the job of judge and jury are actually challenging the authroity of Allah which was not even given to his beloved Prophet. So tell me, r u a human being? If answer is yes, then ask yourself how can u hate other creations of Allah?

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^ problem with u is that u r denying Quran....
this aint the topic os the thread so dont stretch it here....
u know it as well as i do that Quran clearly mentions the fate of non-believers (mushrikeen specially) and if u wish to diplomatically make it sound like the fate is not hell, then its u who is a coward, who cant even muster up the courage to say out what Quran so cearly mentions....

and if u wish to continue this discussion, lemme know, i'll split it into a new thread....

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Throwing hissy fits or conducting feel-good seminars on about how depicting the prophet(pbuh) with a bomb on his head can be just a tad offensive, won't help our cause.

Unless our governments grow some spine, we will continue to get pushed around.

A letter from Begum
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[quote]
In Surah AL-AHZAB chapter number 33 verse number 6

"The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers.
[/quote]

If Allah has considered the wives of prophets as our mothers, how you can say that he is not like our father?

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Problem with u is that u have become the sole interpertator of Islam, or should I say God on earth. Either u r just regurjigating the hate filled propaganda that is fed to u or simply ignorant of basic Islamic ethos. Ofcourse we all know what Islam says about the mushrikeen, but then again Quran also speaks to the Prophet not to be their judge for that is the perview of the Almighty only. Quran also talks of how to communicate with the non-believers, in such a manner which is not offensive and hurts their feelings, then again such ayath are ignored by your teachers who wud like the world to be divided btw them and us, whereas its always Raab ul Alimeen.

All this is very relevant to the subject at hand, it deals with how Muslims are supposed to conduct themselves when faced with adversity or unbelievers. Example of the Prophets life is also very relevant which was always forgiving, magnaminous and all accepting. Have u forgotten the case of Abu Sufian and his wife Hind? U have no problem in defending Ameer Muhwiya, son of Abu Sufian yet refuse to belief or follow the good example of thw Prophet.

Its fanatics on either side which give religion or secularism a bad name, it is their intolerant and totalistic attitude towards life which makes it impossible for them to see the different colous life has to offer.

Muslims made Salman Rushdi a very average novelist into a household name, are we not repeating the same mistake? Such is the unfortunate fate of Muslim worlds, we are damned if we do and damned if we do not. Had we taken principled tstands on issues such as Iraq or the Iran-Iraq war, we wud not be seeing this day.

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It is said (in Quran) that none of us are decendents of PBUH, therefore he is not our father or father like.
i think it says in the same chapter [gone to look it up]

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You need to wake up and smell whats cooking.

The world got divided the day the first verses got revealed. Kufr and Islam cannot go hand in hand, its a shame non muslims understand this better than most muslims.

According to you, Islam is all about about being nice and kind to the unbelievers even if they are massacring your own brothers and sisters. But i guess thats all part of the package when you live amongst them, you cant help loving them and becoming affectionate towards them and eventually becoming one of them.

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Another ill-informed, biased and unintelligent response.

Sole guardians of Islam start making incorrect assumptions, draw wrong conclusions and make competly false attributions. Clealry they cannot make a educated reply or accept the fact that Islam preaches love, harmony, forgiveness and acceptance.

Maybe u need to get out of your xenophobic world, motivated by hatred of others, unwilling to make changes or accept its own frailties. Somehow I get the feelin u have spend too much time with wahabi teachings which basically has no humanity, the basic ingredient to be a muslim.

Talking about love and peace does not mean weakness, yes it threatens those who have made their reason of existence based on hatred of others.

All those Arab countries denouncing these cartoons by calling back their ambassadors, where were they when Abu Ghrain pictures were published? Or why the silence on the Iraqi genocide? Selective morality has no meaning, its just a eyewash.

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hmm people here r taking eachothers insults seriously n getting pissed off abt it but preaching that the response to danes shud have been peaceful.

u guys cant control urself on this forum,such r ur egos when its something personal but ur berating those who have acted in a similiar manner ie by taking it personally.

extremists r evrywhere n they stir up trouble by precipitating those who r already simmering with emotion.u cant stop that.

the cartoon was in bad taste and a very personal attack on the whole muslim ummah.

there r people who like to play the peace card n there r people who r willing to fight.but if so much tension is here on opinions abt eachothers opinion then y cant some of the muslims feel enraged when the HOLY PROPHET ]SM] has been disrespected?

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Mmmkay, now it's seeming like the protests have been hijacked by hooligans and corrupt leaders looking to deflect attention.

Torching embassies? How last century can you get...

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judgement 1=Problem with u is that u have become the sole interpertator of Islam, or should I say God on earth. Either u r just regurjigating the hate filled propaganda that is fed to u or simply ignorant of basic Islamic ethos.

judgement 2= Another ill-informed, biased and unintelligent response.

j 3=Maybe u need to get out of your xenophobic world, motivated by hatred of others, unwilling to make changes or accept its own frailties. Somehow I get the feelin u have spend too much time with wahabi teachings which basically has no humanity, the basic ingredient to be a muslim.

j 4=Problem with the likes of u is their insecurity, questioning others to seek justification for their personal inadequate existence. Hiding behind semantics is your only refuge,

j 5=Phelay jaake Quran ka sahee mathlub samjho, when u realize Allah is Raab ul alimeen and Rehman for the entire universe then u will understand how wrong ppl like u r

we all make the same mistakes everyday,of judging people.[me 2]
the comments r so emotional,everybody has his own specific stimulus which gets him going.

we muslims need to be humiliated a lot more to rise.

thankoo mods
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do u have any proofs to back your claims? No dont tell me about the Jewish lady who threw trash at the prophet, i wanna know about Non Muslims, who were not paying Jizya, ridiculing the Prophet or even Islam for that matter, and the Prophet advised the muslims to forgive and forget. and yeaa make sure the incident you quote is from the time after the Muslims were allowed to collect Jizya and wage Jihad.

The Islam you're tryning to preach here is not the one Muhammad (sas) came with. He prohibited leaving Muslims lands and living with the unbelievers, being intimate with them, loving them even when they are killing you and ridiculing your religion.

I can show you the ahadeeth and Quran's verses if you want.

i agree with you on that one...

But not everyone has turned a blind eye to the Abu Ghraib pictures. There are muslims out there who are fighting fire with fire.

Venting Session (merged)
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I am not digging anything up for you. I am telling you to stop hating other religions and you're asking me some juvenile question.

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rasool-e-kareem(PBUH)nai hamesha durguzar(to forgive) kernay ki taleem di hai.aur ap ki zindagi hamarey liay aswa-e-hasana hai.hamein us kai mutabiq zindagi guzarni hai.
ap ko dushman kitna tung kertay thay.lakin sahaba un ko kuch nahi kehtay thay.is ka matlab yai tu nahi na kai sahaba ko rasool-e-kareem sai piyar na tha.jitna piyar sahaba ko tha kisi ko na tha.wo chahtay tu tung kernay walay ko usi waqt khatam ker daitay lakin is tarah ka aik bhi aik bhi waqia nahi milta.
except guzwaa unhon nai kabhi talwar nahi uthai aur guzwa khuda ki rah main jung thi.is liay nahi kai kisi ka badla laina tha.

we should live our lives according to the ways of prophet (PBUH) and his companions(sahaba).those people who dont even act upon the single advice of prophet (PBUH)aisay moqoon per gairat dikhanay agay aa jatey hain.
aisay loog sirf fasadi hain.jo zameen main fasaad chahtay hain.aur islam ko badnaam kernay main agay hain.

yai loog shaid yai samajhtay hain kai in logoon ko sahaba sai ziada rasool-e-kareem sai piyar hai jo in loogon ki bohat bari galat fehmi hai.
is tarah kai kaam ker kai islam ka aik galat tasawur inhon nai dunya ko diya hai .us cartoon per agar itna shoor na machaya jata tu ho sakta hai wo sirf chand logoon kai ilm main hota .lakin in loggon nai shoor daal ker jis nai nahi bhi dhaika tha us ko bhi dhikhaya.

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islam piyar aur aman ka mazhab hai .apni baat ki suchaai sabit kernay kai liay daleel daini chahiyay.na kai gharoon ko aag lagana aur us mulk kai un loogon ko jin ka koi qasoor bhi nahi hai un ko pareshan kerna.

this is totally totally against islam. i really feel sorry for such people those who are ignorant of the true teachings of islam and their acts are disgracing islam.

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