Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
what are your logical reasons? and no, threats to your "male power" conferred by the posession of a penish do not count.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
I am sorry we do not have logical reason. We only have religious reason and for that Sunnah of Rasoolulah:saw: and his companions(RA) is more than any reason. Other than that people can innovate and create their own Islam, may they be blind for not looking at the obvious reasons meaning:
Apna Islam aap pedaa kar agar andhoN maiN hai
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
The Rasul also did not wear Jeans. Do you wear jeans?
gah.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
try to differentiate between **Aqeedah **and Ahkaam
do not come up with illogical examples relative to the above 
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
Before you start going gah gah…spare a thought on how religous a matter is it, about wearing jeans.
Innovation in religion is prohibited. Not in ur daily routine life like what you eat, how you dress, or what you ride to go to work.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
well said
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
:k:
i think shes just one of those feminist trying to interprete islam from a feminist standpoint which is just not right…a friend of mine was telling me that in America in this mosque the women would come and stand next to the men and pray in line with them and when the men and imam would say please go back to your section they just wouldnt listen…they ended up shuting down the mosque becoz the imam of the mosque said he doesn want to lead jamah of men and women in prayer!
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
Im still trying to figure out just what her evidence is from Quran and SUnnah.
The interview on Naseeb presented no such evidence, and her method of speakg of Usury as implemented by the oil rich muslim nations left a bad taste in my mouth. Usury is extremely haram in islam and we DONOT have to change our religion to fit the tastes and economy of this world.
All in all , im really still not convinced, but im keeping an open mind. If there is evidence on this topic, then bring it out in the open.
Otherwise i really like Anwaar's quote
'Apna Islam aap pedaa kar agar andhoN maiN hai'
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
It makes me angry to think that some people are hijacking my religion and are doing all this in the name of Islam. Women cannot lead prayers in Islam. Anyone who says otherwise is absolutely wrong.
There was a lengthy debate on my ex-college's MSA list on this topic too, and some very learned ppl were involved. In the end, this was the statement issued by the leadership of the MSA and I wanted to share it here. I completely agree with it.
(the name of the society has been replaced by "MSA" in the text below)
Assalamu Alaikum.
Regarding woman-led, mixed jum`a prayer
The MSA believes in the thoughtful discussion of the various topics of interest to the Muslim community. Unfortunately, extreme attitudes tend to force people to entrench themselves in their positions and to hang tightly to their opinions without any attempt to understand or analyze. In the process, the integrity of the Islamic sources and the Islamic discourse is compromised via sentimentality, self-indulgence, logic-twisting, far-fetched interpretations, whimsical claims of authenticity or lack thereof, etc.
A study of the positions and legal determinations of the various Islamic schools of jurisprudence reveals that the overwhelming majority of scholars restricted prayer leadership to qualified males. The case was not at all built on anti-woman biases but was rather based on Prophetic traditions depicting the organization of prayer inside the mosque of the Prophet (saw) as involving men's rows at the front and women's rows at the back. Some scholars "conditionally" rendered permissible the practice of women leading men in prayer. For instance, some permitted a woman to lead "her family" especially in situations where she is well versed in the rules of Salah and knowledge of the Quran while her husband and children are still learning. A minority of Hanbali scholars were of the opinion that women can lead supererogatory prayers such as Taraweeh prayers during Ramadan. Furthermore, there are a handful of scholars who, contrary to the vast majority, were reported to validate women's leadership in prayer generally.
There are three important issues that merit consideration. (a) The Islamic prayer itself includes movements such as prostration that a considerable proportion of women may feel uneasy performing in front of men. On the other hand, a considerable proportion of men may feel uncomfortable, out of shyness, to pray behind women. (b) The manner of prayer involves the performers standing shoulder-to-shoulder and foot-to-foot. Many people do not feel comfortable having members of the opposite gender inside their "personal space." Many Muslims even consider that the mere touching of members of opposite gender (without any form of lust) vitiates ablution. (c) Many Muslims, men and women, subscribe to the interpretation of the vast majority of the scholars limiting leadership of prayer to men, and separating men from women.
The MSA believes that true "progressiveness" or "liberalism" is predicated on respecting the sensibilities of fellow Muslims and the opinions they believe bring them closer to Allah (swt), so long as these opinions are plausible, well-founded, and not harmful to others. Forcing a particular opinion down people's throats is a repugnant form of authoritarianism. It is up to the qualified religious scholars to decide whether the prayer of March 18th in New York is Islamically valid. The MSA, however, is more concerned with creating a space which is welcoming to the largest number of Muslims with all their diverse views and religious choices. Moreover, the MSA has ambitious plans to increase the involvement of female students in the various MSA activities, including, but not limited to, requesting from them to share with the community their knowledge, experience, and insights.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
You know Irem, you said what i shouldve said, but was afraid to say. Coming from a guys mouth it sounds like more talk of female subjugation and perhaps thats why only a woman can truly say this properly and make people listen to her.
My wife is of the same opinion as you...
I have wanted to see the evidence this scholar seems to have for a while now yet it hasnt presented itself....
These sentences from the last para are something we all REALLY need to focus and ponder upon.
"The MSA believes that true "progressiveness" or "liberalism" is predicated on respecting the sensibilities of fellow Muslims and the opinions they believe bring them closer to Allah (swt), so long as these opinions are plausible, well-founded, and not harmful to others. Forcing a particular opinion down people's throats is a repugnant form of authoritarianism."
May Allah guide us a on the straight path.
Ameen
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
the woman doesnt even understand arabic, believes homosexuality is not wrong... she wasnt covered when giving her khutbah(read on another site) and the people that came to this prayer were chosen and their details written down, it wasnt open to public..
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
This reminds me of when a bus driver demanded Rosa Parks give up her seat to a white person and she refused. But instead of shutting down the bus, it ignited a revolution where blacks became equals and respected - not only on busses in Montgomery Alabama - but in every facet of society throughout the United States.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
Seminole, your anolgy does not work. You need to understand why is it that men and women are not allowed to pray together. This has nothing to do with being a second class citizen (as was the case with Rosa Parks). This has more to do with a faith, it is based on commandments from our beloved prophet:saw:
It sure did revolutionize US. Racisim is dead …is’nt it?
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
Racism is closer to being dead in the US than sexism is in Islam.
Both scenarios are based on culture, history, rules, power structure, rules, preserving the status quo and faith that 'the man' is right.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
^ You are a non-Muslims so shut your pie hole and stay out of this.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
lool
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer…???
Ahh, another enlightening comment from one who claims righteousness. Why does my religion matter? I’m sure the non-whites had a clearer grasp of discrimination in 1950’s Montgomery than whites.
Re: can a woman lead a friday prayer........???
Semi - Tell me this.
Why does the pope have to be an old man, why not one of those young gay priests? or why not a lesbian woman out of the streets?
Re: Women's right to lead mixed-gathering prayers
Exactly and why has'nt there been a women President of the most tolerant and democratic of nation to have existed in the history of humankind......
Re: Women's right to lead mixed-gathering prayers
Seminole's been thinking for a long time on how to come up with an answer. Maybe google'ing something.