women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

Originally Posted by Sara516
Alot of guys date women wiht the promise “we’ll get married/engaged” and when time comes, they back out or his parents dont like her, or otherwise relationship falls apart.. n it is seen as a bad thing for grlz to be choosin tehir own partners or to even have any opinion on it! I know lots of grlz who’ve had no voice in the matter of who they spend their life with, their parents take care of it when tehyre’ in HS (so tha they dont get “kharab” in college ) n to a lesser xtreme, my mom wudnt let me say anythin in public abt it (only to her n my dad personally)..

Girls also say that they want to get married, but then they back off by saying her parents dont like you or make up some bs, and go out with other guys.. ..I’m sick of all these things being blamed on just men. Men might hurt the girls feeling, but girls torture guys with their psychological tricks.

N If the girl doesnt speak up how will the parents know, and if the parents still dont listen, then they love their reputation more than they love their children, both of my sisters got love marriages, you think that made my family’s rep go up or down, but they wanted their children to be happy, and thats all that matters.

[Sara516]

Re: Young Pakistani Women who hope to find men for themselves, are "made" to be loser

@Afridi786

There is another double standard, people regard women as pious and men as sinful, how rotten is that? Thats why it comes to no shock to people when men are sinning, but there is a shock when women are sinning. Is that good or bad?

it is a double standard, I think it makes things alot tougher for women. a guy can do watever and noone will look badly upon it, or it won't be much fo an issue. Have you ever heard the term "Boys will be boys?" But God forbid, a girl does something like date a guy, everyone assumes shes' giving it up ot him and to whomever, and her reputation can be ruined. So yes ure right it is very unfair and I don't see how it could be any good.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

LoL, if a girl is dating a guy, she will give it up to him sooner or later, so its alright to assume, because that is the whole purpose of dating. Even if they are looking for someone to get married, the end result always is the same thing (at least first & second base). That is why people shudn't date, and stop trying 2 justify it.

[Sara516]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

LoL, if a girl is dating a guy, she will give it up to him sooner or later, so its alright to assume, because that is the whole purpose of dating. Even if they are looking for someone to get married, the end result always is the same thing (at least first & second base). That is why people shudn’t date, and stop trying 2 justify it.

whatever , u dont get my point

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

Girls shud be able to date ?

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

Girls shud be able to date ?

All men are gay? :o

[K4plan]

Re: Young Pakistani Women who hope to find men for themselves, are "made" to be loser

@Sara516

it is a double standard, I think it makes things alot tougher for women. a guy can do watever and noone will look badly upon it, or it won't be much fo an issue. Have you ever heard the term "Boys will be boys?" But God forbid, a girl does something like date a guy, everyone assumes shes' giving it up ot him and to whomever, and her reputation can be ruined. So yes ure right it is very unfair and I don't see how it could be any good.

This all stems back to the dark ages. Stupid culture is still being followed in this day and age.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

Shud any1 and every1 be able to date openly without being seen as doing something unislamic and be encouraged to adapt to western society?

We shouldn't date, it doesn't matter what culture accepts and doesn't accept. So don't use to this excuse to furthur corrupt yourselves.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@K4plan

All men are gay? :o

K4plan, r we suppose to or allowed to date in Islam?

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

Shud any1 and every1 be able to date openly without being seen as doing something unislamic and be encouraged to adapt to western society?

It's not like they haven't adapted the ways of western society already, only most of their parents aren't aware of it since they love living in the world of denial.

[Sara516]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

Shud any1 and every1 be able to date openly without being seen as doing something unislamic and be encouraged to adapt to western society?

If you read carefully, i was using the dating thing as an example of what YOU were stating, the unfair double standards that are put upon men and women :o. Since you didn’t get it, I’ll state it again in simpler words: men will do anything and noone finds it wrong, they’ll in fact be congratulated or applauded. Women will do almost nothing but still be considered sluts. Get it?

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

K4plan, r we suppose to or allowed to date in Islam?

NO. Not in Islam. It's considered a major sin.

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Sara516

If you read carefully, i was using the dating thing as an example of what YOU were stating, the unfair double standards that are put upon men and women :o. Since you didn’t get it, I’ll state it again in simpler words: men will do anything and noone finds it wrong, they’ll in fact be congratulated or applauded. Women will do almost nothing but still be considered sluts. Get it?

Yea, culture.

Since men are the providers - they can go out there and do as they please, but women are supposed to be at home, cooking.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Sara516

men will do anything and noone finds it wrong, they’ll in fact be congratulated or applauded. Women will do almost nothing but still be considered sluts. Get it?

Not true, in fact, dating has become the norm for today’s desi’s, nobody cares anymore, I went off to another topic, so dont hit me, or else I’ll …

NO. Not in Islam. It’s considered a major sin

Then why justify it and try to make dating for male or female acceptable.

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@K4plan

Yea, culture.

Since men are the providers - they can go out there and do as they please, but women are supposed to be at home, cooking.

What age r u living in?

[Sara516]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

Not true, in fact, dating has become the norm for today’s desi’s, nobody cares anymore, and dont hit me, or else I’ll …

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Then why justify it and try to make dating for male or female acceptable.

FORGET about dating! that wasn’t the point i was trying to make NOONE’S trying to justify dating or sex.

You may think its the norm, but I don’t, not until parents are sending their 12 yr old kids to school dances, and encouraging them to date at the age of 14, and thrilled when thier 30 yr old kids are taking “big steps” and moving in tohgether

[Afridi786]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

u make me want to u, its the norm, u shud know. They do it secretly, but they do it, and has become the norm in recent generations.

what other things do men do that is acceptable, n when women do it it’s not?

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

Not true, in fact, dating has become the norm for today’s desi’s, nobody cares anymore, I went off to another topic, so dont hit me, or else I’ll …

Then why justify it and try to make dating for male or female acceptable.

Whos trying to justify it? Me? I don’t live for y’all. I live for me.

[K4plan]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

What age r u living in?

I live in this age. I provide for myself and yet I have enuff dignity and self respect to not be anyones side dish.

[Sara516]

Re: women who hope to find men for themselves, are a loser.

@Afridi786

u make me want to u, its the norm, u shud know. They do it secretly, but they do it, and has become the norm in recent generations.

what other things do men do that is acceptable, n when women do it it’s not?

its the norm between the kids. but still not much fo a social norm, at least its nto the level that non-desis are..