Afghani women tents:
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That's hot.
Anyway to get a burka for a burka, I'm having impure thoughts.
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have u ever seen indian (hindu) living mummies???
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Centuries old tradition, which are held in high esteem and regard by the Muslims of Afghanistan…That is their culture, their values…They protect their women with their lives, and the BurQa is one way to shield them from strange eyes…
By calling them tents, you are insulting someone’s way of life…
I believe this to be an American joke, and that would make you an ABCD…
That means, much like Americans, you tend to start snickering at anything which seems foreign or strange without sensing its importance…
Is it any wonder they know so little about the outside world and speak only one language? 
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May Allah (SWT) reward them abundantly for the hijab they are observing. May Allah (SWT) grant the rest of us taufeeq to observe hijab properly and make it easy for us, ameen.
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Its almost inhumane. Also seems derogatory towards women folk.
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Ever heard of Apadravia?
And many many more…
But since this is all culture, we can find it inhuman, but nothing gives us the right to leave a ‘scratch’ where there is one already, on the proverbial cultural tree, right?
And honestly, I think the shuttlecock BurQa is a fantastic invention…In the heat, it ventilates air and acts as a poncho and in the winter, protects against cold…
But, since this is ‘Muslim’ part of Islam’s diverse culture, you find it inhumane…
Do you wish to change the world according to your vision of ‘humanity’?
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Yes this is inhumane too…but since when 2 bads means 1 good???
Don’t claim something when you have never tried it…you are acting as a munafiq…
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You have already insulted them…by asking them to wear something that is not mentioned in Quran in a way that you are interpreting it..
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According to my interpretation, A Hijaab suffices, and according to their interpretation, it’s a BurQa…
You may be the scholar of Islam here and know the proper way to treat and call things, but the thing is, many other scholars, besides yourself, have deemed the BurQa from the Quran and Sunnah as FarD…
And Islam is not just Quran, it is Sunnah too…
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The ‘tents’ are a sign of these women’s dignity.
If you were to talk to these women you’d find they are much more happier and more content than western women, never have I known an Afghan woman who suffers from eating disorders or depression yet western women with these and other psychological disorders are in abundance, western women are reduced to being just cheap show pieces, used and abused in every way, for sex, for commercial purposes, in western society every woman is reduced to the status of a whore, that’s not liberation, the western woman is the one who is truly oppressed, a slave to the lusts of men yet she doesn’t even realise it.
Don’t look to the west for enlightenment, they’re progressive in many ways and the Muslim world should follow them in that but not in their negative things, in so many ways their society is decaying so fast, family system everything is in shambles…
Islam doesn't give the same treatment to both genders, men have their rights and responsibilities and women their own, each is assigned it's own role suited to it's nature, if they digress from that everything falls to pieces.
The veil is a sign of Islams divinity, if it was a man made male dominiated religion like some claim, it wouldn't order men to feed, clothe and protect women and live with them in honour but rather reduce themn to sex objects like the west has done and eastern societies such as Hinduism with its Devdasi's etc.
So many English ladies I know who'd love to be housewives like our women, that's well suited to the nature of women yet they are brainwashed in the west to make them feel useless if they don't have careers outside the home, their role as mothers is underestimated, not only are they abused as sex machines but also work machines by their parnters and country & society....
...Whereas in our Islamic society men are expected to be gentlemen enough to take care of all outside affairs and women have everyright to rely on their husband for decent food, clothing and shelter amongst other things.
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It's great and all, but its wrong when it's forced... and the way the society adn the govt is they are forced to wear burka, and being forced is wrong...
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Going around naked isnt?
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In western societies, it is a sign of great honor for the woman to drop her clothing and coverings, which in our societies is shame…
For a western woman, nakedness is a sign of freedom and honor…That’s probably why you see an almost naked women standing in front of expensive cars or anything to sell…
That’s how the image of womanhood is sunk from mothers, daughters and sisters to an accessory, and probably that’s why women have such low regard in western societies…They aren’t anything special, they are just regular items…
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Nothing wrong with dressing modestly and covering your curves.
But these burqas cover your face and your eyes. They cover everything. So you essentially can't communicate except with your voice. And frankly, the Taliban didn't let the women speak much either.
The second reason why its degrading to women is because they were forced to wear it. Yes, forced. And that's not permitted in Islam.
So, regardless, I see this as a symbol of ignorance. And misinterpreting and misappyling Islam.
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What you don’t know, is that with all the falsehoods that you have been told about the Taliban in the media, many women, even during the time of Taliban, wore just a Hijab…
What you also don’t know, is that schools were being built, and what you also don’t know, is that the Taliban were formed because of women…
Before Taliban, warlords started taking over the country after the Russian invasion…These same warlords are the ones aiding America now…They treated everyone like animals, especially women…Many women before the Taliban were abducted and sold by these warlords…
Women were traded as animals…Let’s say my cousin came from Iran for a few days…All I’d do, is tell a couple of my guys, to go into a village and grab a couple of virgins for him to spend some time with…
In this very scenario in which a warlord had abducted two girls from a village to be raped…One of the girls, managed to slip a letter with someone to Mullah Omar, who used to run a Madrassah and was an Imam of the local Masjid…
This was too much for him…He armed himself and asked for volunteers to free the girls, to which every one of his students stepped forward…
When everyone assembled, Mullah Omar attacked the fort of the warlord and after a hard fight, made the warlord surrender…
The warlord and his accomplices were charged with years of persecution and killings and under Shariah law, executed them…
When news of their exploit reached others, thousands started joining in, to rid the country of warlords and crime…
This story can also be corroborated with ISI internal memos, few of which were released after the Taliban went into guerilla mode…
Also, under the Taliban, Heroin export had trickled to almost zero, which accounted for more than 70% percent of the world’s supply…
DEA’s funds had almost trickled to a halt too, and many feared layoffs…The billions of government money alloted to drug fighting was being slowly halted…
There was law and order…Crime dropped drasticaly and, according to interviews held by independent French news agencies with Afghans revealed that under the Taliban, for the first time, Afghans had truly tasted peace…
Now…Believe what you may…
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Now now don’t be so judgemental…Act like a sane guy…How can you just compare women in some cheap TV commercials with that of living in a particular society…If it is 40 degrees centrigrade outside then they may remove some of their clothings…but there is a difference between showing off the bodies to that of adjusting to the environment…And do you really think that Afghani women are something special by wearing these Burkas…Does Burka give them their right place in the society…It is only such that Afghanistan’s literacy rate is only 20% & a Burka may prevent the not so literate Afghanis to suppress their animistic thoughts towards a woman or a girl…by seeing a Burka clad woman.
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To cover everything for women is very much Islamic, okay the Burqa might be an Afghan invention but it serves the same purpose as that which the Muslim women wore during the time of the Prophet (i.e. chadar), when they encountered unrelated men on the street they would draw their chadar over their faces as to not be seen by them.
It’s hard for an outsider to understand, I’m not an Afghan but my people share many values and norms with them and I don’t know of any woman who is unhappy about covering up, it’s a natural thing for them as it’s been practiced for centuries, women tell me without the burqa/chadar they feel unnatural, they say it feels naked and vulnerable.
In Islamic society interaction between post pubescent unrelated members of the opposite genders is only allowed in cases of necessity. In Afghanistan women and men both have their own societies, just as women are barred from male life men are barred from female life, men have their own social and recreation and women their own and the only people of the opposite gender they interact with are family.
Like a brother said as long as “the veil” was being observed the Taliban didn’t have any problems with women having careers, primary emphasis was put on bringing up her kids and family life but there was nothing wrong with honourable jobs if she could manage all her responsibilities, there was women in the police force, female farmers (helping in the fields) female doctors and nurses, female staff at girls schools, lady clerics for female only congregations. Our media with the help of Afghanistanis who are none ethnic-Afghans (as they hated the Taliban for political reasons) or Afghans of a lose moral character will tell you different, they’ll over magnify their negative points and cover up the positive ones, I’m not saying the Taliban were faultless surely they must have made mistakes, being humans it’s inevitable but their different sense of justice and the mistakes they made were misinterpreted and morphed.
I’m sure given the chance the Taliban would have provided even more opportunities for women to excel but because the very infrastructure of their country was in shambles due centuries of war, droughts and foreign sanctions, even the men (traditional breadwinners) had a very hard time trying to get a job let alone the women, or education all these critics going on about how Afghan girls weren’t allowed to go to school, that’s bullcrap, the girls weren’t denied education anymore than the boys, due to reason I’ve already mentioned there weren’t very many schools even for the boys, education is very important but at the time their country had more immediate needs, a lot improved during the rule of the Taliban and if our countries had given them a chance they could have done a lot more, now that they’re gone nobody not America nor the gay Afghanistani army can enforce law and order, drug trade is booming again, women are being driven into selling their bodies, homosexuality i.e. old men grooming prepubescent boys for sex is on the rise, innocent people are being persecuted in Afghanistan by members of the Northern Allegiance, the ethnic Afghans were disarmed by America so now they’ve got nothing to defend themselves, their women are being raped, men killed and nobody hears a thing about any of that.
But ah well I suppose it’s just easier to go with flow and accept everything the media throws at us than to bother to find out the truth for ourselves.
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^^^ bravo Ranjhan, you rock and I agree with you on this thread!!
Burka is not symbol of slavery. are all nuns slaves???
I give one example, its all about perception.
last year on a summer evening I was in hyde Park, there was an Arab family and have little cute daughter 2 -3 years old wearing burka type dress, not traditional but
to me it looked to very cute, she looked very nice kid.
but passing by Goras was looking at her like she has been forced to do it. and was very un impressed and worried about it.
wearing burka doesnt always mean women is oppressed! its just the western media that projects it like this.
and also woman can be opperessed even by not wearing burka.
also please tell me how many women in Afghanistan want to wear bikinis???
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Who is saying that it is the symbol of slavery....It is not an islamic way either...It is just a tradition followed in Afghanistan..