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ok - then let me ask this, how many of those women understand that a burqa is a cultural adornment as opposed to a religious one? Would they still have the same attachment to the burqa knowing it is not a religious garmet?

 And how many, knowing this would still wear it? and given that, how many wear it out of fear of repercussions?

Also, it would be nice to hear a woman's point of view as opposed to a man who has never had to wear a burqa. Much as I find it interesting to know how guy's feel about it and how a guy percieves how cool a woman is, how much they love it, etc, the message is diluted because, well, guys don't wear it.

I am not saying that a person can wear a burka out of choice, all the more power to them. There are plenty of women in burqa's working around Philly and no one cares. But don't confuse a person wearing a burqa because everyone else does and it would single them out (not in a good way, be honest) to take it off with those who elect to wear one out of conviction that it is the right thing to do.

As for nuns? They have a choice to wear what they wear as a part of their calling, they don't have to wear a nun's habit (name of the clothing, the headcovering) prior to making the choice to wear one. And nuns also have a choice on whether to adopt the habit or not. Sister Perpetua is a sister at a college in RI who dressed conservatively but never wore any vestige of her station, just the wedding ring. Nuns have a choice and if they chose not to, no one makes them change.

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umm… looks sexy… especially in that heat. oopz!!! we arent supposed make fun of people’s beliefs and traditions. ahem… all you kids get back to doing your home work :bailan:

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damnnn.......wat is itttttt.................. can i get in 1 of those tents ?

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Minah, it’s also very cultural…

You must remember, Islam encompasses a very diverse set of cultures and has ingrained itself within them…You travel from one ME country to any other and you’ll see hundred of different ways that women cover themselves…Jilbab, Niqab, the Black BurQa, the colorful bottle like shapes of their BurQas, Khimaars and so many more…

My own aunt and her daughter are Ninjas, and they love it…It wasn’t forced upon them, they chose it…

I think the ones that really deserve pity are porn stars…Poor people have to rut naked like animals for the pleasure of others…How bad is that?

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You said that your aunt and her daughters are Ninja’s(Quite derrogatory though) & they choose it for themselves…How porn stars choosing being naked for themselves be hedious???These comparisons by you are now turning into some hilarious overturres…

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Lajawab - as I said over and over, women that choose that style and live with it, the choice is totally up to them. The true measure of oppression (even in a culture) is the lack of choice. Saying it is cultural is a poor excuse for allowing lack of choice. Slavery was culturally accepted by almost all cultures but it was morally wrong and as a rule now, it is illegal. Choosing to wear a burqa freely is a choice any person should have, but can those same women choose not to wear one? Also as I stated in the thread in General the burqa is a tangible symbol people grasp, it is not the burqa but the mentality and opressive laws that go with it (not educating women, not allowing them to walk alone unmolested, not allowing a woman to own property, etc).

As far as porn stars, regardless of what you and I think, they made a choice to do that and can freely live with that choice. You and I are not the morality monitors of other peoples lives. We can make a choice in ours to be good or bad people. The problem with repressive societies is that they assume everyone will make the bad choice and everyone pays a penalty in loss of personal freedom because of the idea of a man (or woman) who thinks that they know better than God what other people need.

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oh n calling them "women tents"(insulting them) makes all the difference in the world. If you guys are so worried about these women, why dont you do something about it? WHy not go educate them in afganistan? Stupid ignorant ppl, u guys cant do crap...all u do is sit here n talk $hit. If those talibans are morons for forcing the women, you guys are morons for making fun of them.

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^ Atleast some people are educated enough to point towards a problem...not like some stupid morons including you...who just want to keep their eyes shut & then say that everything is good around them...go & lament somewhere else...

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why the hell can't these women just wear shalwar khameez and a chaddar on their head??? They will still be covered won't they be? Why can't perverted men be beaten and have their ass whiped and stop so they won't degrade these women despite of wearing chaddar. WHy women has to wear these shuttles?
To the guys here...try wearing one of these things for a day in 35 degrees and we'll talk...what is forced and what is a choice.

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Try benching three hundred pounds…

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Rightly said…That’s what i am trying to tell these people here..

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oh wow our hero, Galiko here has pointed out a problem :rolleyes: claps

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http://www.rense.com/general29/women.jpg

" Burka Vs Bikini "
**I have a picture of a Muslim woman shrouded in a burka. **

**Beside it is a picture of an American beauty contestant, wearing nothing but a bikini. **

One woman is totally hidden from the public; the other is totally exposed. These two extremes say a great deal about the clash of so-called “civilizations”.

I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine beauty too much to advocate the burka here.

**I don’t think we are meant to have a permanent “private” life. We are to remain lonely and isolated, dependent on consumer products for our identity, in a state of perpetual courtship. **

Woman’s sexual attraction is a function of her fertility. As fertility declines, so does her sex appeal. Unfortunately in our society if a woman devotes her prime years to becoming “independent,” she is not likely to find a permanent mate.

**Her long-term personal fulfillment and happiness lies in making marriage and family her first priority. **

**Feminism is another cruel New World Order hoax that has debauched women and our civilization. It has ruined millions of lives and represents a lethal threat to Islam. **

**I am not advocating the burka but rather some of the values that it represents, specifically a woman’s consecration to her future husband and family, and the modesty and dignity this entails. **

**But also, i think making female human being hide in shuttles is quite possibly insulting to any woman who has an IQ over 160. Or over 140. Or over 120, - or let’s just say any woman who is consciously aware of herself as an intelligent individual in addition to being a nurturing, birth-giving human being. **

**The burka and the bikini represent two extremes. ****The answer lies somewhere in the middle. **

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please click the link to see the picture. I wasn't sure how could that picture be posted by itself without a link.

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Islam started as a stranger and will return to its glory as a stranger.

Words of My Prophet:saw: are quite evident :subhan:

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shakills - hon, very, very few women in western society today walk around the streets in a bikini, the only appropriate place for one is the beach. In western society we also judge people on how they dress and how appropriate it is. If you put a woman up there in jeans and t-shirt or in a business suit, it would make a whole heck of a lot more sense.

Just because you give women a choice in what they wear doesn't mean that once the burqa is off, they'll wear bikini's, that's absurd. There are plenty of Muslim women walking around who dress within the guidelines of their faith without being forced to wear a burqa. When it is a choice to wear a burqa it is a powerful statement and one that should be respected, when it is a mandatory covering in a society, it losses the value of being a religious statement and becomes a symbol of oppression.

Making a people do something as opposed to having a people chose to do something are very different things.

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Take a ride on the NYC subway one day. It’s sick, I c girls on the train all the time in skimpy crap. Visit my school, you’ll see girls with thongs stickin out, see through shirts and pants, they might as well be walking around in bikinis :stuck_out_tongue:

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But sara bikini is different from shorts & sleeveless shirts etc....& besides see through shirts & pants are seen in islamic world too...we are talking about extremes here..

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As Salam Wa Alaikum Wa Rahmatullah Wa Barakhato, I Am Truely Impressed By The Sheer Motivation And Piousness Of These Woman Who Do This Out Of Thier Own Will, This Is Just 1 Picture, Other Afghan Woman Wear Shalwar Kameez With Chadhar Over The Head Which Is Also Acceptable, I Am Also Impressed With The Men Keeping Beards Mashallah, May Allah Bless This Nation Inshallah And Make Other Muslim Nations And Individuals Like Them And More Islamic Inshallah. We All Should Be Ashamed Of Ourselves For The Unorthadox Manner We Usually Live In As These People Are Oppressed By Foreign And Neighbouring Forces. Everyone Must Also Practise Thier Belief Most Importantly Inshallah. We Can Do This I Believe We Can, Its Just That We Have Become Accustomed To The Western Ideology That Has Been Forced Upon Us. Inshallah We Will One Day Live In Peace And Harmony. After Seeing The Iraq War Crimes I Believe Woman Should Stay Even More Covered As We Are Dealing With Scum Bags Worser Than Pigs Who Mainly Come From Prisons That Have Alledgedy Come To Liberate People. May Allah Keep Us All To The Correct Path Inshallah And Stop Any Of Us From Going Astray Inshallah, Also May Allah Guide The Kaffir To Islam Inshallah Ameen

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I Do Not Expect To See Anyone Making Fun Out These Devoted People Or Making Allegations That Have Been Fed To Us By Mushriq As That Is Just Down Right Rude....... By The Way It Was My Birthday On June The 21st!