Women say if you were raped, it is your own fault

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First you say it's not their fault, then you say they need to take some blame. Why? Just because someone is vulnerable doesn't make it okay to take advantage of them. It wasn't the girls fault some guy decided to take advantage of her while she wasn't in her senses. If he hadn't done that, the only thing she'd regret would be the hangover, not getting drunk, a hangover and getting raped

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Well said.
So many women get raped because they have no control over their drug and alcohol abuse. Often people go clubbing and lose control, they pretty much do whatever with anyone who gives them the opportunity because they are all high and drunk out of their minds.

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nope i am used to it now, but it does hurt after the marathon you know :bummer:

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In some cases, it IS their fault as well as the rapist's. I don't think women are so naive that they think they can just walk around skimpily dressed and drunk out of their minds late at night and expect to be safe. You need to be cautious and protect your own self. Do notice that I am talking about rapes happening with JUST drunken women here.

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That's like saying it's okay to rob a 7 eleven because hurricane katrina just hit.

Circumstances don't change when abuse involved, whats wrong is wrong

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There is a clear difference between actually getting raped and just crying rape after drunk consensual sex.

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I am not defending any rapist and I am not saying it's RIGHT. I am saying BOTH are at fault in case of drinking.
Um, you're comparing Hurricane Katrina (an uncontrollable weather damage) to drunk women (something they can VERY much control)? It's a woman's job to protect her ownself. Im gonna say this again, if you're gonna put yourself in a position where anyone can take advantage of you then yes you are at fault. It's like presenting the opportunity to a rapist who is looking around for a victim. Do women not know how common rape is? Especially around these club/downtown/party areas? When you drink, you're allowing yourself to lose control. It's like knowing you're putting yourself at risk of something bad happening but thinking, oh it won't happen to me.

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Word.

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Re: Women say if you were raped, it is your own fault

in some cases the victim is to be partially blamed due to the way they dressed or acted in front of the attacker but in most cases i would not blame the victim.

my 2 cents :k:

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You can't, and shouldn't be that badly punished for being stupid enough to get drunk :)

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Oh and since you're hellbent on only talking about the intoxicated women, let's just clarify rape here: non-consensual sex. What difference would it make if she was in her senses or not? Do you think if she was in her senses and said "NO" that would stop someone from raping her in that particular situation?

Why does it matter if she was drunk anyway? It wouldn't make a difference.

What you're basically saying is, women need to be just drunk enough to know what's going on around them but still have a little buzz, flirt enough as to have the men interested in them- but not enough to rape them...um no. I'm confused. Or are you saying they shouldn't be drinking and going out at all?

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Aishaa you can't justify getting drunk out of your senses just like you cant justify rape. No they are not the same thing - just that both can't be justified.

If a woman is cautious and vigilant, and becomes a rape victim - yes that is very unfortunate.

If a woman is completely drunk, and gets frisky with the wrong person, well then I'd blame the snake bitten person who wanted to feel if the snake was smooth or had scales on it. And in some cases, drunk adventures are later fit into the rape category by the 'victims'. We tend to get carried away when we hear the word rape.

For every risk, there is risk management.

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Aisha i see ur point but dont whole heartedly agree with it, as far as i see drinking does get you into a lil pickle, the reason i say dat, well generally guys associate drinking to loose girls and if it is in a club environment even worse, I am in no way justifying RAPE cuz in any case it is wrong, so u saying that the girl should be allowed to drink well within limits for sure.

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Why do you have to be cautious and vigilant to avoid getting abused? Also, getting drunk really has nothing to do with it because if she's in the wrong place, wrong time, "she's asking for it." Right? According to you guys?

And I'm not talking about the false blame cases, that's not even the issue

The question was, if you were raped is it your own fault? No it's not your own fault because YOU didn't wrongly touch another person, you're not the abuser

And indirectly you're saying that men are out-of-control cavemen who can't control themselves and it's okay to be like that. Next time someone calls you a pig or dog, don't get offended

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Aisha as some others have said, it is sometimes the victims faults, cuz there are the odd teasers who love playing wid guys and sometimes they tease the wrong person, so totally taking the blame off every single one of them is wrong as well.

And yeah as far as being called a PIG or a DOG well we are already called that by u ladies n e ways :D

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According to me guy, you have to be vigilant and cautious to avoid any and all risks. Thats a general rule. Nobody is ever 'asking for it', like I said earlier. However, unless one is completely retarded, we all have a sense that tells us what to avoid under what circumstances and how to act in a certain environment.

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No not by me. I know many feminist men, but you YOURSELVES are saying you're uncontrollable neanderthals

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Then again … n e ways i rest my case. :k:

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Re: Women say if you were raped, it is your own fault

Here's an example: girl is alone with a guy. She's being nice to him, laughing, smiling, sending flirty "signals." Guy takes advantage of her, using the close space they're in and her signals. Its not the act rape but he does make advances towards her that violate her personal space and makes her feel uncomfortable and angry.

Guy is a scumbag, no doubt, who deserves a kick in the face (and other spots) but shouldn't the girl have been more careful by not putting herself in that close space with that guy and not given off the signals that made him believe hse was the type of girl who would welcome his advances?

By taking responsibility for her actions, she accepts that whatever took place wouldn't have happened had she not put herself in that situation. She likely learned her lesson and became more careful about how she behaved and take notice of her surroundings.

Guy had no right to do what he did, but like someone else said....everyone is responsible for their own behavior. That said...if someone is still vigilant and careful to the best of tehir abilities and it still happens...it is very unfortunate and the person should be helped and rapist punished to the max.

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Another scenario: A woman is outside near a tree or pole while its raining and she gets struck by lightning

Stupid woman tsk