Salamz
I just want to know that as a woman what kind of islamic topics you would look for?
What kind of questions do you all want to know related to woman in islam?
Replies will be appreciated!
Thanx!
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Why are men allowed to have 4 wives, and how is this fair to a woman?
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good PCG, keep them coming!
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The reason for multiple wives in Islam was not to satisfy men’s desire and that’s it, but for the welfare of the widows and the orphans of the wars. During war times, many women are unable to find husbands, and they might prefer to be a co-wife than no wife.
Also allowing multiple marriages is useful in case a man’s wife is sterilized and can’t give him the chance of being a father; here he has the right to marry another wife, and leaving the choice to her whether she wants to continue being his wife if he marries another woman or not
http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/spot_full_story.asp?service_id=795
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Why is it a common practice in muslim communities even today?
leave the religion alone use logic and common sense!!!
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I thought this thread was about religious questions?
The above explanation is logical and uses alot of common sense.
How is it a common practice in Muslim communities, I would like to know how many males in pakistan have 4 wives?
Is not as common as some of you confused muslims think.
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See, I don’t think he has the “Right” to marry any other wife if his wife is not comfortable with polygamy. There are lots of orphans out there. Adopt.
Besides, what if he’s the one that is infertile? In our culture, its expected the girl stays with her husband regardless. Pretty silly.
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Another one is - Why do women have to cover up more than men do?
Why do some masjids request women to pray behind a veil/pardah/separation, whereas other masjids are okay with women praying right behind men with no physical barrier?
Why do men believe that women should stay at home rather than work - is this a religious ruling or a cultural conception?
Why is the testimony of 2 women equal to that of 1 man's when women are supposed to be equally intelligent as men, or are women not as intelligent?
Why can women not be leaders of state, when the Quran talks about Queen Sheeba?
Why aren't there more female Islamic scholars and researchers?
Why is hell filled mostly with women, or is this jut a misconception?
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It is widely known that if husband wants to marry another women, he should always get the permission of his first wife or else it is regarded as infidelity.
Yes, because the girl can’t remarry, a guy can.
PCG, life is a bitch, somethings are not fare, learn to live with it.
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Why?
Why do we have to pray?
Why the Hajj?
Why the fasting?
Why why why?
Faith is not based on 'why's? Sure, there are scientific, social, moral e.t.c. explanations for everything, just because your are unhappy with something doesn't mean we take it out of our faith...
Gays are unhappy about forbiddance of homosexuality, mod-Muslims are unhappy about Jihad and Hijab e.t.c....
Men are allowed to marry 4 times and that's that...You can browse around for reasons 'why' and if those reasons don't make you happy, you can take it out of your version of Islam which has already taken out Hadith......
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thank you sis.
PCG, i agree with what you have stated above. HOWEVER, In order for a man to marry again, his wife(s) must give permission. If the permission is not recieved, then the man cannot marry another woman. Also, the man must be finiancially capable of supporting.
Also, The reasons for MAX. 4 Wives are
1)
- There are more women than men (been scentifically proven) - i.e. Birth.
- More men die at wars (thus further reducing men population)
- Men are more prone to diseases
- Men have shorter life span
i hope that answers your question
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Oh you so did not. Do not compare polygamy (which is not highly encouraged in the first place since monogamy is encouraged if you feel like you can't be just to more than one woman, and since the penalty of being unjust to two women is so intense in the afterlife) to...
prayer, hajj, etc which are all FARZ.
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Why do some masjids request women to pray behind a veil/pardah/separation, whereas other masjids are okay with women praying right behind men with no physical barrier?
Why do men believe that women should stay at home rather than work - is this a religious ruling or a cultural conception?
Why is the testimony of 2 women equal to that of 1 man's when women are supposed to be equally intelligent as men, or are women not as intelligent?
Why can women not be leaders of state, when the Quran talks about Queen Sheeba?
Why aren't there more female Islamic scholars and researchers?
Why is hell filled mostly with women, or is this jut a misconception?
Good on you PyariCgudia.... you got my 100% support.. teach these arrogant and of course fanatics a lesson......
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prayer, hajj, etc which are all FARZ.
Your question began with a 'why'...Not Fard or anything...
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Honestly, polygamy topics havebeen raised in this forum before. Many people say that getting permission from your first wife (wives), is no religious obligation and that a man has the right to take a second wife if he wants. Many also say that its his right, since man is naturally going to want to cheat on his wife anyway, so that he ought to do it legally instead of illegally with a prostitute.
You'll fine PLENTY of religious scholars that say this. Many here also think the same way.
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There are somethings in Islam which may sound illogical or out of sense, but when us muslims question everything like PCG has, we are doubting the practices of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) and the word of Allah (SWT).
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Please read and educate yourselves.
**Multiple wives in Islam **
7/1/2004 6:00:00 PM GMT
**Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse.
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Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islam, limited polygyny (up till four wives) is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.
Qur’an is the only religion on the face of the earth that allows men having up till four wives, Allah says in the Holy Qur’an:
“Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.” Al-Qur’an (4:3)
Before the Qur’an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had many wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.
So, Islam came to control having an infinite number of wives, like it was during the Pre-Islamic era.
In the same chapter Allah says in Surah Nisa verse 129, Allah says:
“You will never be able to be fair and just among women (wives)…” Qur’an (4:129)
Hence, Islam does allow having more than one wife, yet it has set conditions for that, which is that the husband should be fair with all his wives, and treat them equally, which is very difficult.
Multiple marriages lay a heavy responsibility on men, which is why Allah allowed having more than one wife only if the husband treats his wives equally. If a man has more than one wife, he must treat them all in an equal manner, emotionally and financially. For example, he has to provide separate living accommodation for each of his wives.
Since it is very difficult to be just with all wives, in practice, most of the Muslim men do not have more than one wife.
Therefore polygyny is not a rule or an order but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife.
The reason for multiple wives in Islam was not to satisfy men’s desire and that’s it, but for the welfare of the widows and the orphans of the wars. During war times, many women are unable to find husbands, and they might prefer to be a co-wife than no wife.
Also allowing multiple marriages is useful in case a man’s wife is sterilized and can’t give him the chance of being a father; here he has the right to marry another wife, and leaving the choice to her whether she wants to continue being his wife if he marries another woman or not
However men are prohibited from cheating on their wives, meaning a man can’t marry another woman without the knowledge of his wife. He should tell her, for she might refuse such situation, and in this case it’s totally her right if she asked for divorce.
In the pre-Islamic period, men used to have many wives.
One person had 11 wives and when he converted to Islam, he asked Prophet Mohammad (pbuh): “What should I do with my wives?”
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) replied:
“Divorce the all except four.”
When non-Muslims hear about Prophet Mohammad’s multiple wives, they might conclude without much thought that he was a sensuous man. But the truth is that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was married to only one woman, Khadijah. He remained devoted to her from age 24 to 50. Only after her death, did the Prophet marry other women. The reason behind the Prophet (PBUH) marrying more than one wife was to spread Islam, and help the Islamic message to reach out to the world.
It is obvious that if he was after physical pleasure, he didn’t have to wait until he was more than fifty years old to start marrying other wives. His later marriages were for various reasons, some marriages were with the view to help widows whose husbands had been killed for the sake of Islam, others were to cement relationships with devoted followers like Abu Bakr Al-Sadeeq, may Allah be pleased with him. Some of his marriages were to build strong relations with various tribes that were at war with Muslims. In brief, Prophet Mohammad’s marriages always had Islamic motives.
Some of the non-Muslims misunderstand polygyny and claim that it is one of the negative aspects of Islam, but in fact Islam sought to control and regulate the number of wives rather than give free license. And the permission given to men to have more than one wife is controlled with the conditions Allah has set before marrying another wife.
http://www.islamonline.com/cgi-bin/news_service/spot_full_story.asp?service_id=795
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Unless we're doubting whether they really WERE the practices of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH).
Some of my questions come str8 from the Quran like the testimony clause. I have to say, the only things that I really can't understand are the testimony clause the polygamy clause in the Quran. Although I understand the polygamy clause as umair-ahmed here describes it, and also in a biological sense, but that is not how I hear most people arguing in defense of the polygamy clause. It upsets me to no extent when I hear maulvis say that its a "man's right, because of his sexual appetite". Whatever people. What happened to lowering your gaze and controlling your lust...
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OF COURSE we doubting!!!!
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Actually I was talking about Muslims, not Athiests.