women, islam, sex

ammar...nauzobillah...no...! ofcourse i am not suggesting that!

i am just responding to Tikhi's point...she gave lack of self-restraint as a justification for polygamy...and i think that should not be a reason...

as for whether Allah (swt) really granted this right, according to my interpretation it really is debatable, because Allah swt said IF YOU CAN BE JUST...and we all know that that's not really possible...

there is nothing inherently sinful in sex or sexual curiosity. This is very natural. If you did not have sexual desires or curiosities I would have told you to see a doctor. The worst thing you can do is to blame yourself for your natural feelings. This feeling of guilt is the worst enemy of humans. Religions have antiquated moralities. They do not have any solutions or answers to human needs but they only TELL you what you SHOULD do and what you SHOULD NOT do. They induce in you the guilt and that is what is devastating and demoralizing. how ever if you are married it onle make sense that you can not cheat on your partner no matter what. if you don't like your partner for whatever reason you have to talk to your partner and settle this peacfully. Polygamy is NOT allowed in todays society. FULL STOP..

There is nothing wrong in sexual curiosity. But if this become an obsession in a way that it intervenes with your life and affect it negatively then religions cannot help you, you need to see a psychologist and get some help. Do not go to a mullah or a priest; visit a licensed psychologist.

This is the delima among ourselves. Thank you for pointing it out AQ. I hope people will be a bit more careful when it comes to these things.
-Salman

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as for whether Allah (swt) really granted this right, according to my interpretation it really is debatable, because Allah swt said IF YOU CAN BE JUST...and we all know that that's not really possible...
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How is it debatable? If the Prophet and his companions practised it then it can definitely be done (i.e. being just..)

In the end, the only one who can judge to see if the guy was just is Allah (swt) so it is not really our place to decide if there is something inherently "wrong" with polygamy (as you said in one of your posts). My point is simply that if there was something inherenty wrong (or impossible to manage) in polygamy, Allah swt would not have granted it to muslim men.

to me the meaning hasnt changed much adn I didnt really mention that part of it cuz we were talkin about men marrying women

are you suggesting, man = human being?

I wonder what woman = ? in ur understanding?

Everywhere in Quran, whenever We, THE HUMAN BEINGS, are addressed everywhere you will find the word Insaan.

had it been:

ﺎﻔﻴﻌﺿ ﻝﺎﺟﺮﻟﺍ ﻖﻠﺧ

OR

ﺎﻔﻴﻌﻀﻟﺍ ﺎﺴﻨﻟﺍ ﻖﻠﺧ

I would not have any issues with the understanding. But go ask a medical student/graduate and you will be told amazing things medically proved :)_

ya Allah :smack: please help me :smack: kithay phaasa ditta :smack:

this was the orginal post:
Allâh wishes to lighten (the burden) for you; and man was created weak (cannot be patient to leave sexual intercourse with woman).
Q4:28

irem said the meanings in the parenthesis arent wat she read, so I posted this:
Allâh wishes to lighten for you; and man was created weak Q4:28

after the ayah about women and marrying…I think it makes sense wat kinda weakness its talkin about…right?
please someone correct me if I am wrong :-s

u said man means insaan, so I said we are talkin about men marrying women thats why I didnt really mention the part that humans are created weak..

And thats how it pretty much is in most books man = men and women and that part of it, I understand