Women do not

take men to be pieces of meat? ever wonder why?

if the presumption is that real time, immediate presence or what is called physical proximity is important for any relationship to change into commitment,

but if men only go for the physical, then, why eventually do women bring these men ino their own marital contracts?

or more specifically, why do these men, eventually get married as spouses to women?

dushwari

disclaimer (please know that when i refer to women and men, of a certain type, ‘some’ is understood in my posts)

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Lol are you serious...

Women can easily take men to be pieces of meat...i know girls who are simply out for sex just like men are...

And as for why these guys eventually get married...most men like women are fine with just something physical but that doesnt detract from the fact that they also want something meaningful...so say they meet a girl think shes fit but dont want to get with her cos they may have their fun out of it and move on to another girl who they may actually want to get with...

Im not gonna dispute that some people arent cut ou or seek relationships but realise that if someone has fun whether that be male or female it doesnt mean that they dont also seek a relationship...

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hm. quite faithless, then. trying out people.

relationships are meant to be superior in many aspects beyond the obvious or the superficial.

true hidden meaning in loyalty of a woman or a man is hard to unearth for many, as well.

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Yeh men = pieces of juicy meat.
Just look at Shiney ahuja, john abhraham, Salman Khan, my husband..
all yummY!

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Faithless to try out people eh...its called trial and error...

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not for grown up and honest men and women who are sure-footed.

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Lol seriously your full of it...

Arent you the grown, honest, sure footed woman who just flopped in her relationship?...

When you meet your next guy remember your own words and not mine...when i meet girls and then move on i call it trial and error cos they werent right for me...but of course for yourself remember that you just tried your guy out...

Take care...

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you have to have the final word, have it. too bad that you cannot resist moving onto the next woman and the next and the next.
some women and some men are different - God fearing and pious.
marriage is different altogether than ignoble affairs. sadly, you sound like you lik that betraying and trial and error and compensate your self with the next prey.
may you be guided out of your own accord, in your dishonesty and waywardness.

-dushwari

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Excuse me who the hell are you to judge me...

Your talking about relationships like you got them right first time...you flopped remember that...your single and you dont have a man...so on what basis are you attacking me for trial and error...you yourself made a trial and it ended up being an error...when you get with your next man then it may not work either and after that it might not either so what does this make you...

Id understand a degree of arrogance from someone who met say a childhood sweetheart and got it right and got married but what have you got to base your arrogance on...a guy that left you...your full of it...

You call me dishonest and wayward...aactually i am honest hence why i finish something rather than lead someone on and wayward...i know what i seek i just dont always get it...

You meanwhile are obsessive and you lie to yourself...and lets not even talk about your waywardness...an independent woman whos life revolves around men...pathetic...

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then you stop your nonsense right here and now.
and keep your dirty vocabulary to your self.
best

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Mods, can you please address nbn?

nbn:

u are not welcome on any one of the posts i create

do not live in the fallacy that they are addressing you, in particular.

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Lol Queen Dushwari...

Since when did you decide which posts i can and cant visit...ill do as i please thank you...

And as for your posts not being aimed at me...i live in some fallacy do i?...ok now last time i checked people quote people and then reply to the people they quote...if you look above you will notice you quoted me and then you replied to what i said...is anyone buying this nonsense...

Your a very very strange girl...Just go write anothjer obsessive thread on how everyones has wronged you...

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*drools over mister “I wear my jeans reaaaaal tight” * :love:

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ahem, back to the topic...

there was actually a program on the science channel (or history channel, sorry cant remember), the program called "Nova" about a very similar topic.

It seems that men are aroused mostly by visual stimuli. Seeing beauty. Women are aroused more by thoughts, feelings, emotions. They showed brain scans where the "pleasure center" of male brains lit up with visuals. Women can light up their "pleasure centers" with visuals also but its more rare and its also less intense. WHen women are read a romantic love story however, that pleasure center lights up in the same manner as the men's (when the men are shown a racy photo of a gorgeous model).

Yup. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus. We're wired differently thats all.

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I knew it!!!

you know what peeves me! this gender nuturing/ neutralizing of this culture of ourS! its all on about how man and women are exactly the same!
Same my tush!!!
i tell u we women are totally different then men! we are! we are very emotional beings! and men are very shallow beings! (not in a bad way - but thats how men think - i mean sports its not convuluted its one vs another and one/ other wins - we women on the other hand prefer drama, we want a one side to be good, other to be bad, but yet there to be complications drama before one side wins over hte other- in any event point being we like things to have more depth)

i guess, what i am saying is, despite the physical evidence, its like we dont as a society want to recognize the differences! meanwhile all we are doing is pretending that men are as emotionally inspired as women! and obviously this leads to all of these failed expectations we women have. not to mention its creating a soceity where the "masculine" features/ mannerisms have become the norm, and to be succesfull now women have to aspire to be better men essentially!

so u see all these women suited up and succesfull and it peeves me, b/c they are cosidered the role models for us women, they are made out to be champions of women rights! when really all these women have done/ become is better men!

u know - its like "feminism" is being slowly eradicated from our societies! thats why we are becoming so agressive and waring soceities! b/c notions od peace, cogeniality, characteristics that i would call are "feminine" have been marginilized! being emotional is not professional, so u dont use it in society to do anything but literatre and art! and if u belive in peace u are beauty queen bimbo - u know!

anyway, well thanx for enlightening us! good to see such facts!

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nbn, i cant belive u are being this way!

u know u should hardly be talking! look at you always venting your hatred on GS all the time! u are always on about race and to some extent about women as well. but mostly about race! generalizing and hating!
I suspect because u have been hurt!

Dushwari was hurt by someone! okay! she did not chooose to "experiment" wiht a guy and leave him! she did not choose to try this man out, she was committed to him, and he claimed to be as much to her!

The point is it is wrong to do trial and error when the other is not aware of that! dont u think? don't u think that it is wrong to give someone a false sense of security! to tell them things that would make them believe that u are in a 100% that you are committed to the other person, tell them that you are no longer looking around that this girl is the one! but then turn around and be like oh well i was just trying u out, and now i am moving on cause it seems i errd!

I think that is totally wrong!

I am not saying u should stop your trial and error ways of doing things! hey everyone does it differently some of us get arranged married. some of us only want serious commitments, others can flake it a bit and prefer to get to know someone - it doest work out move on!

I think we are all on the same page. Really what i am saying, and i think you will agree, is when u know a girl isnt about trial and error that she is traditional coming from a place where u either take the whole thing, or leave it! and u walk in and u decieve her and u tell her u are in it for the whole ride! and then u move on! I think we can all agree that is wrong!
I think trial and error is all fair game so long as both the parties are on the same page! but lets admit the guys who decieve women are arses!

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and really nbn its realy wrong of you to be kicking someone when they are down!

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i think what is being contended here isnt that its wrong/ right to "have fun"! i think what is being said is that it is wrong to "have fun" (either for physical or to boost your ego) when the other person is not on the same page! and you knowing that the other person is interested only in serious relationship deliberately mislead the other person!

It happens alot! guys (and even girls) get out of bad relationships, they need an ego boost and they get another person to like them by saying things they dont really mean, and then when they have their confidence back they move on! w/out any explanation to the person who they were just wispering sweetnothing to! i am just saying, when a person gets hurt by someone like that (even if they were not physically taken advantage of) its still abuse by the other party that said things they didnt meant! and since Dushwari seems to be experiencing something similar! she is entitled to vent! JUST LIKE YOU!

In either event, its very very insensitive of you to be kicking someone when they are feeling down!

you could very easily have made these comments w/out being so hurtful and offensive and rude! and you could also very well have reserved your comments for later or another forum!

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Not true. Women are just as lustful as men.
This whole trial and error thing IMO is good and true for the early stages, not for a relationship you've been in for years and BAM it hits you that its a "mistake"... thats a cop-out...

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nbn,

devotion is strange to you - obviously, you are unaware of what devotion to someone means.
and as for my life revolving around 'men'it is not men, but one single man - a particular man.
wishing that all of what you rebuke women for, happens to you.

you need to realize that they way you are speaking to women at GS, is abhor able.
it is good to know that you cannot comprehend me, because you certainly are not the one who is destined to distinguish between unjust and unethical ways from just and ethical ones, in dealing with human beings and relationships. clearly you take relationships to be trial and error. see how far you run with it. and who you will or may ever be able to settle with, on equitable terms and in an equally devotional manner.
-dushwari