…and more dead bodies for innocent families. More brain-washing in the name of ‘jihad’ - the most mis-used word in today’s world after ‘sorry’. May God give such twisted individuals some much-needed hidayat - Ameen.
ISLAMABAD: About 3,000 Islamist women gathered at the radical Lal Masjid in the capital on Wednesday and vowed to raise their children for jihad, days after a suicide bomber killed 19 people after a similar rally on July 6. Chanting slogans of “jihad is our way”, burqa-clad women, some carrying babies, listened to fiery speeches from the daughter of the mosque’s jailed cleric on the eve of the anniversary of a raid on the complex in which more than 100 people died. “Our mujahideen laid down their lives for the enforcement of the Islamic system in Pakistan. We are left behind to carry forward their mission,” the daughter of cleric Abdul Aziz told the tightly guarded rally in the mosque compound. Several thousand men had attended a similar rally on Sunday to mark the anniversary of the commando raid that ended a weeklong siege that had begun when gunmen from the mosque clashed with police. Shortly after the Sunday rally ended, a suicide bomber attacked policemen who had been guarding the gathering killing 19 people, all but four of them policemen. But there was no trouble on Wednesday as the cleric’s daughter, who did not identify herself, told the crowd to steel their families for jihad. “We should prepare our children and men for jihad,” she said. The crowd responded with shrill chants of “We are ready” and “Al jihad”. The women present demanded, amongst others, a court trial of President Pervez Musharraf, reconstruction of the Jamia Hafsa, reopening of the Jamia Fareedia, release of Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz and an end to the military operation in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas. The organisers claimed around 5,000 women to have attended the five-hour conference but people present said the number did not exceed 3,000. The police had sealed off the area with barbed wire, roadblocks and pickets. Pedestrians had to go through several security checks to cross the area. reuters/jamila achakzai
....and more dead bodies for innocent families. More brain-washing in the name of 'jihad' - the most mis-used word in today's world after 'sorry'. May God give such twisted individuals some much-needed hidayat - Ameen.
Is it twisted because it wouldn't suit your lifestyle?
Jihad is what it is, and its meaning is described by none other than Quran itself.
The Prophet (sas) was also called an extremist and much more by the Kuffar and those who were allied to the kuffar.
so i really dont see anything different here.
Americans are also called "extremists" (to an extent), Nazis were/are called extremists, probably Ghenghiz Kahn (Changaiz Khan) was termed the same, are you suggesting that they be considered in same category as Prophet PBUH?
^To Sharabi... Ok.... so Let's do Jihad.... But those Pakistanis that are sitting outside Pakistan in Uk, USA, Canada , Europe etc should also report back to Pakistan with all their families. Declare shariah, break ties with all kafir countries and return their aids etc. Take out Pakistan's nuclear weapons, drop a few on coalition forces in Afghanistan, a few in Iraq and India. Declare Pakistan the khilafah of the ummah and ban all visual media.
Is it twisted because it wouldn't suit your lifestyle?
Jihad is what it is, and its meaning is described by none other than Quran itself.
1st why don't you tell us what Jihad is?
2ndly, is indiscriminate suicide bombings that has killed countless innocent people (mostly Muslims) ... is it also part of jihad?
Finally, according ot jihadis internet is Islamics & during Taliban terror in Afghanistan it was banned ...which begs the question what r u doing on the internet?
2ndly, is indiscriminate suicide bombings that has killed countless innocent people (mostly Muslims) ... is it also part of jihad?
Finally, according ot jihadis internet is Islamics & during Taliban terror in Afghanistan it was banned ...which begs the question what r u doing on the internet?
Is it twisted because it wouldn't suit your lifestyle?
Jihad is what it is, and its meaning is described by none other than Quran itself.
Sharaabi what is your life style, can you please enlighten us all??
And how have you contributed towards "Jihad"??
I think you are those, who hid behind the computer, inciting others feelings .
I hope you aren't one of those guys who sit in US/Uk/Canada etc, praise "Jihad" without stepping their feet on Pakistani soil or knowing their hardships. To them Pakistanis should do Jihad while they themselves ease their butts abroad. It is these guys who are behaving as cyber mullahs so that they can fulfill their own desires.
lal masjid students and teachers were NOT terrorists at the time of the storming. i have no reason to believe they have taken to terrorism since and therefore they will remain innocent victims seeking justice
2ndly, is indiscriminate suicide bombings that has killed countless innocent people (mostly Muslims) ... is it also part of jihad?
Finally, according ot jihadis internet is Islamics & during Taliban terror in Afghanistan it was banned ...which begs the question what r u doing on the internet?
i would ask him first how did he get his screen name "Sharaabi" ?
lal masjid students and teachers were NOT terrorists at the time of the storming. i have no reason to believe they have taken to terrorism since and therefore they will remain innocent victims seeking justice
*a rebel is not always a terrorist
did you see them with guns and gas masks during the seige ??
i agreee that a rebel is not always a terrorist and also a terrorist is not always rebel.
but some dude with automatic gun firing at people and police/army ... is a terrorist.
lal masjid students and teachers were NOT terrorists at the time of the storming. i have no reason to believe they have taken to terrorism since and therefore they will remain innocent victims seeking justice
Not all teachers/students were terrorists, most of them were peaceful but some of them were supporting/participating terrorists or hiding some between them (which in turn is counted towards anti-state-support)
*a rebel is not always a terrorist
but anyone who kills innocents or works against the law of the country is a criminal.
its incorrect to think other people with other causes will not take on the state of pakistan. the mentality of the people is such. the state must remain reasonable with the expectations of the people. and lets not kid ourselves many in pakistan want further increments towards peaceful islamification of society. the western model will not work in pakistan, because pakistan is only unified under the 'la illaha illallah' moto from north to south.
if you envision pakistan to become a 'western' like country you will have many incidences of outrage, of non compliance, of difference not always religious related.
the lal masjid issues should have been handled with promises of law and order by the state regarding brothels. the land should have been eventually sold to the school. instead both issues were handled without consideration, which led to one of the worst disagreements between a school and the state in worldwide history.
today you have a situation where the religious people (mazbi) dont believe the state is on their side. lal masjid decided to take them on with that very same belief
its incorrect to think other people with other causes will not take on the state of pakistan. the mentality of the people is such. the state must remain reasonable with the expectations of the people. and lets not kid ourselves many in pakistan want further increments towards peaceful islamification of society. the western model will not work in pakistan, because pakistan is only unified under the 'la illaha illallah' moto from north to south.
I don't believe religious model is going to work for Pakistan either, look at the society from top to bottom. Almost every hand is opportunistic, pick-n-chose is the religion and NOT Islam. Look at our religious scholars who are suffering the same pick-n-chose in various aspects (of course there are clean scholars too but they don't surface).
if you envision pakistan to become a 'western' like country you will have many incidences of outrage, of non compliance, of difference not always religious related.
I don't envision to be western like either, there can be middle grounds too. I don't like Saudi Arabia and I don't like Europe either both are at extremes in one way or the other.
the lal masjid issues should have been handled with promises of law and order by the state regarding brothels. the land should have been eventually sold to the school. instead both issues were handled without consideration, which led to one of the worst disagreements between a school and the state in worldwide history.
Law and order is out of hand throughout Pakistan but that doesn't mean that every tom dick and harry picks up sticks and enforces his views on others that will convert Pakistan into Sudan/Somalia.
today you have a situation where the religious people (mazbi) dont believe the state is on their side. lal masjid decided to take them on with that very same belief
The reason so called religious people don't believe in the state is of mutiple magnitudes. I really don't pay attention to people who want to run wearing a burqa while leaving other women/children/dead-bodies behind.
"Non religious" people are against the state for different reasons, does it mean those people should pickup arms and start an armed resistance and start killing innocent people? This is as stupid as people protesting against load-shedding and pelting stones on the traffic, burning buses/buildings etc.
ehtasab, among the good people, among the poor streets, famillies are living with great intentions, with respect of elders and maa bhein, taking comfort from religion.
of which of these effected streets do you not want the people to rid themselves of such outrage of culture as the brothels represent in pakistan?
of which of these effected streets do you not want the people to rid themselves of such outrage of culture as the brothels represent in pakistan?
Are you sure the ammunition cache that Ghazi brothers were collecting in so-called "Jamiah" was to remove brothels? The foreigners for whom Ghazi brothers demanded amnesty were there to raise their voice against brothels?
Its okay to be gullible and trusting someone for being Muslims but never let others take a free ride. Ghazi brothers did something good but that does not mean that they are allowed to do whatever they want in the society. Don't condone mob-justice, work/demand for institutionalised justice otherwise society will only become more and more tribal. Whether you want Islamic system or British colonial system as the "justice" system its YOUR choice, you need to work around the system.