I saw this program on Oprah called Wombs for rent…basically people from everywhere hiring Indian women to be surrogate mothers to their babies.Ofcourse the “rent” is cheaper there. Here in the USA it costs abt 70-80K and the surrogate mother has the right to have a change of heart if she gets attached to the baby and keep it, but in India the surrogate gets about 4-6 K dollars and assumingly they say that it changes their life.
I personally think if infertile people who want babies that bad should think about other options like adopting adopt instead of exploiting the poor like that. I think that there are babies/kids in this world that are already here and they as well as the people who adopt them benefit, so why go to such extreme…it just seems selfish and extreme.
WHat do you guys think?Is it morally wrong or just another form of “outsourcing”?
on avg indian kid weight lot less then white kid.
I mean we don't want any dead mothers.
They were showing this surrogate mother who was merely 4 feet six and the dad of the surrogate baby was 6 foot 5..Imagine that.
They were showing that both are benefiting(meaning the woman provides for her family with the money from this surrogacy..it is just cruel I would say.How does she know about all that can go wrong.
Buying kidneys is illegal yet this is fine...arent there willing parties at both the ends in human parts sales too.
i agree with ask there r alot of kids in the world who need homes so y not adopt a kid y hire sum1 to make a baby for u???
Yes thats the thing..I think Adoption is the key not flying halfway across the earth trying to lure some needy women and their families in being an incubator and then taking the baby away from them. .
and sometimes the surrogate mother is left scarred for life (not able to have any other kids) the what?
I totally agree. It's quite selfish to ask the poor.
Yes thats right. I mean I feel sorry for those women.It is not a simple transaction, neither is it "helping the needy, the poor".If it were that these people would just give em the money.
They know that the poor ladies dont have rights like here in the US, that allow the mother to keep the baby if she wanted to because of the attachment.Its not that simple. I m so shocked to find out this is happening...I feel so sorry for those people.
Biological mother is unable to carry a baby herself due to medical reasons (and not due to vanity reasons).
India is just used as an example, but this surrogacy can be from any country of the world (Mexico, South America, Europe etc).
Risk from the IVF procedure is brought down to a very low level.
Its actually a tough one. People offer their bodies for all kinds of weird stuff - medical experiments, organ donation for money, testing of new medicines. IVF is no different. There is some risk, but with time and experience, this risk is low. If this way, somehow, a couple who is unable to have their own kids, is able to have a kid of their own (father's sperm, mother's egg); and at the same time, a poor woman from another country is able to earn more money than she can earn in a life-time, without sacrificing her dignity, who are we to complain. In a way it sounds win-win.
From an Islamic point of view, this all could be very dicey, and I'd be surprised if surrogate motherhood is permitted in Islam (I have not researched it), but for non-muslims, purely from a human stand point, I don't see them getting too bothered by it.
Ask, I know a lady who was surrogate for her sister. Here in the US. The lady got so attached to the twins she delivered that she ended staying at home with her sister as a nanny. The kids became aware of their real mother when they were older and now they practically have 2 moms.
However, I have heard of stories back in India where the surrogate mom suffers through major depression after handing the child she bore to an unknown family. I'm not sure if their contract allowed her to change her mind.
Personally, I think it is very sad. I cannot say much more than that as I don't know anyone close enough, but I would never want to be in that situation.
Biological mother is unable to carry a baby herself due to medical reasons (and not due to vanity reasons).
India is just used as an example, but this surrogacy can be from any country of the world (Mexico, South America, Europe etc).
Risk from the IVF procedure is brought down to a very low level.
Its actually a tough one. People offer their bodies for all kinds of weird stuff - medical experiments, organ donation for money, testing of new medicines. IVF is no different. There is some risk, but with time and experience, this risk is low. If this way, somehow, a couple who is unable to have their own kids, is able to have a kid of their own (father's sperm, mother's egg); and at the same time, a poor woman from another country is able to earn more money than she can earn in a life-time, without sacrificing her dignity, who are we to complain. In a way it sounds win-win.
From an Islamic point of view, this all could be very dicey, and I'd be surprised if surrogate motherhood is permitted in Islam (I have not researched it), but for non-muslims, purely from a human stand point, I don't see them getting too bothered by it.
MR. its really easy for u to say but u dont know the feelings of the woman who is keeping the babies inside her
she feels like amother and every1 knows how a mother feels for her babies so its not easy for any1 to hand over thier babies
It's exploitation of the needy. There are those people who choose to be surrogates without money in mind, but these are completely based on monetary benefit of both parties. Consider this, would these women carry these fetuses if they were economically sound? It's no different from prostitution. It's using a woman's body for some desire, as well as using the same body parts as a hooker. The only reason anyone views it differently, is that it's purpose is to bring (yet another), child into this already overpopulated, overtaxed world.
These women are too poor to find other means of sustaining their livelihood. And those who seek them out, merely exploit them due to their misfortunes.
Simple answer to this would be: Adopt if you want a child. Don't be selfish and don't exploit these poor women. (But honestly, I'd rather those types of people not have children--considering how they abuse these poor people).
It's exploitation of the needy. There are those people who choose to be surrogates without money in mind, but these are completely based on monetary benefit of both parties. Consider this, would these women carry these fetuses if they were economically sound? It's no different from prostitution. It's using a woman's body for some desire, as well as using the same body parts as a hooker. The only reason anyone views it differently, is that it's purpose is to bring (yet another), child into this already overpopulated, overtaxed world.
These women are too poor to find other means of sustaining their livelihood. And those who seek them out, merely exploit them due to their misfortunes.
Simple answer to this would be: Adopt if you want a child. Don't be selfish and don't exploit these poor women. (But honestly, I'd rather those types of people not have children--considering how they abuse these poor people).
Biological mother is unable to carry a baby herself due to medical reasons (and not due to vanity reasons).
India is just used as an example, but this surrogacy can be from any country of the world (Mexico, South America, Europe etc).
Risk from the IVF procedure is brought down to a very low level.
Its actually a tough one. People offer their bodies for all kinds of weird stuff - medical experiments, organ donation for money, testing of new medicines. IVF is no different. There is some risk, but with time and experience, this risk is low. If this way, somehow, a couple who is unable to have their own kids, is able to have a kid of their own (father's sperm, mother's egg); and at the same time, a poor woman from another country is able to earn more money than she can earn in a life-time, without sacrificing her dignity, who are we to complain. In a way it sounds win-win.
From an Islamic point of view, this all could be very dicey, and I'd be surprised if surrogate motherhood is permitted in Islam (I have not researched it), but for non-muslims, purely from a human stand point, I don't see them getting too bothered by it.
Practically one would assume that it is. A Demand is there and so the market should rise up and meet up with a suply. On the surface it looks like a win win situation as both the paries benefit.
But why is it that a lot of countries , its illegal to buy and sell human body parts(except for medical school use)
Why is it illegal for prostitutes to sell their bodies, when the same concept of exchange is taking place?
Why is it that third world countries are becoming the international shopper's paradise for not only buying human body parts but now wombs too.Its not like the throne is waiting to be passed down to the child from a long lineage of kings, and it is very necessary.
WHere does it all stop, at what point?Its not like those women are a helping aunt or friend who agrees to be a surrogate.If money wasnt involved, would they have sold their wombs like that, I wouldnt count on that.
I find it to be wrong. One that can have a child naturally, should by all means give birth to one. But those who cannot, should instead look to adopt orphans; it's a much better alternative. It gives a needy child that much needed love and a place to call home.
for me it's unethical and i'm sure ( haven't searched about it though) that surrogacy isn't allowed in islam as well.............so if someone is desperate to become parents & can't have a biological child they should always go for adoption.
If you havent faced this situation in your own personal life, then you really dont have any idea of how you'd react and which option you would choose if you wanted a child. Its a very honorable thing to adopt. But dont "diss" those who opt for surrogacy until you've been there yourself. It works - on both sides - in the vast majority of cases. And yes, there are sad stories and horror stories due to surrogacy but dont forget there are more sad and horrific stories with regular birth parents.
Something I've always thought was a wonderful thing is egg donation. Women can donate their eggs and make like 5 to 10 thousand US. And a couple who would otherwise be childless can have their own child.
But anyway, like I said, no one knows for sure what they'd do till they've walked a mile in those particular shoes.
lets hear the opinions of women who are unable to have children, lets say who had to have their uterus removed due to cancer or some other complication.
anyone here?
no?
okay..lets all continue to pontificate.
PS: lets make sure we understand the difference between gestational surrogacy and the other type.
