Woman leads Muslim prayer service in Toronto

A Muslim congregation in Toronto made history when it became the first mosque in memory to have its Friday prayers led by a woman.

In the Muslim world Friday prayers are traditionally male-oriented and male-dominated. But a mosque in suburban Toronto broke with tradition, in what is believed to be the first time inside a mosque in at least a millennium, when a woman led the prayers.

The honour went to American scholar Pamela Taylor, who converted to Islam 19 years ago.

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thats it which mosque was this? :o

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Who were they praying to? that after disobeying Him and praying? Really?

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another fiqah born...

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fiqah? hello? another reilgion will be a better word. Atleast other fiqhs follow Quran and ahaadeeth. It follows its own made laws :smiley:

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I hail from toronto.

I think the mosque in question is actually a “progressive muslim” community center. If it is, then aside from female-led prayers, they have also been known to publicize and organize mixed-geneder (male/female shoulder to shoulder) congregations.

Asra Nomani and Dr. Aminah Wadud have also been doing the same. They’re all a part of the same organization.

Now, let’s all relax and look at this academically.

Is there a case for female led prayers? In fact, yes…a “weak” (but plausible) hadith in which Umm Waraqah was commanded by the Prophet (pbuh) to lead her community in prayer while most of the able menfolk were off to war.

There are a lot of other arguments posited, mostly along the lines of lack of explicit prohibition.

It must be said that the reasons typically offered by traditional scholars to bar women from leading prayers are also tangential to Islamic sources, and often rely on pop-psycology.

BUT…prayer is a core ritual, and the single (weak) account of Umm Waraqah leadinging prayer even in the context of the hadith was extrodinary. I’d suggest that for such an important ritual, we’d leave it as it was practiced for most of the Prophet’s life. For such important rituals, I’d think we shouldn’t play around. And let’s just leave it at that rather than disparage our sisters…it’s nothing personal, we’re just trying to be like our beloved Prophet…that’s all.

For the pro-female led stance, see:
http://www.pmuna.org/archives/2005/04/hina_azams_crit.php#more

For an academic rebuke, see:

This is a sensitive issue, so guys let’s not be pigs. I may not pray behind a sister, but I’d gladly lay my life for her…let’s prioritize things right for once.

…more later, once I’m rested up.

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Muslim queen it wast in a mosque because the muslim council of usa (or some other leaders) had threatened that voilance will be used if the alleged prayer was conducted in side a mosque so the had to do it in a church theatre .

*The location was moved to an Anglican Church building in New York after mosques refused to host the event. * http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4361931.stm

Gosh even better.:rolleyes:

errrmm what honour:confused: … to get first class ticket to hell. :stuck_out_tongue: And people complain that saudi lwas are too strict.

Slightly contraversal statement there do expand on it from my side of the screen ur statement reads so that ull not pray behind her but ull sactifice ur life for her cause. i may have interpreted it wrongly do correct me plz.:blush:

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Ashoka,

It was a general statement. I do not recognize the "cause" espoused by the particular sisters who champion female led prayers. I don't think that in order to counter the arguments they make, we need to engange in mud slinging that effectivley puts down all of our sisters (to be clear, it's something that I've heard a lot of outside of this forum...not in it...YET).

Also, I think the event you're referring to was the prayer led by Dr. Aminah Wadud in New York.

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ehh...........

aik banda bakrayka gosht bechta hay kay je yea bakray ka ghosht hay
aik banda kuttay ka ghosht bechta hay kay je yea kuttay ka ghosht hay , lena hay to loo warna marzi hay
magar
aik banda kuttay ka ghosht bechta hay aur kehta hay kay je yea to bakray ka gosht hay to sab say bura insan wo hay

yea log non muslims say bhe buray hain , aur shayed inhee logo kay liye imam Maleek nay** Zindeeq** ka lafz use kiya hay

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oh my God, the females are taking over.

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^
complete the sentence:

oh my God, the females are taking over Islam.

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ok.

Oh my God, the females are taking over Islam. And our masjids. Our offices. What’s next?? Our homes? :mad:

Bloody…

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and the commands of ALLAH:swt: and Sunnah of Prophet:saw:

the Holy Women of Devil :k:

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Ashoka -- We have threads about the prayer being led in NY, this one took place in Toronto.

picoico -- Thank you for the input. I agree completely with this statement :** I'd suggest that for such an important ritual, we'd leave it as it was practiced for most of the Prophet's life.**

(ps yeah its probably one of those mosques I havent heard of. Im familiar with a few, so was wondering which one this was in the toronto area)

PCG and Anwar please dont start fighting. You are not allowed to. Now shake hands, er I mean be nice to each other. :p

What I fail to understand is how this is in any form related to gender equality in Islam. I mean this is basically saying that we women , for the past hundreds of years , have been left behind men in God's eyes because we have been praying behind a male imam?

Has it not been stressed in Islam, over and over again that we women are equal to men?

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I think “gender equality” should be understood as a jargon from a particular academic field, and not taken literally word-for-word. That is to say, gender equality is a single (simplisitc) term used to encapsulate a bunch of ideas, such as the desire to see the elimination fo gender roles in society and in law. I am not well versed in feminist theory, but it takes root in that field of study.

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Holy Women of Devil

So women who are leading others to offer prayer and thanks to God are actually Devil-worshippers in disguise?

Because they have some folds of skin in place of a rod....?

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Who in the right mind will disobey God and then claim to worship the same God.

Ignorance is the key to such worship...

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Where did God say that only men can lead in Prayer?

And I'm asking for God's words, please. Not man's.

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aur haan.

equating women who don't agree with you to DEVIL'S WORSHIPPERS is akin to being quite unIslamic.

I dont think God gave Gaddha the responsibility of defining who is worshipping the devil and who is not...

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This incident should be ignored it is just some feminist trying to bring publicty to her female emancipation trip if they trying to bring equality between man and woman this is a non starter woman and man have thier rights but they are not equal because they are different and they have different roles in life.

Since when was mixed sex allowed together without any barrier or wall to seperate them in the mosque next thing they going to bring gay muslim to lead the prayer.

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well you are welcome to reject the sunnah of Prophet:saw:… No Sunnah No Islam.