With no offense to women

The way I see some people here in the west comparing women and men in “every” single thing, I think they are trying to disturb the balance created by the ultimate Lord through nature.

I agree that a man and a woman should have absolutely EQUAL “rights” in everything. Also there are respective benefits and draw backs for both the genders depending upon the situations and the nature of their respective duties, BUT

I don’t understand why should the dress of a man be compared to a woman when their physical body is different. I heard some people saying that if a man can walk/swim without a shirt, so can a women ?!?!

Some people saying that after marriage a man should take care of the child and a woman should go to work ??!? without considering that a man is blessed with relatively more physical strength to do out door activities and a woman is blessed with relatively more patience in dealing with a child.

The way everytime I hear something new, I feel that if God had given them a chance they would have also started to question the intentions of God by asking from Him questions like these :

“Why were all the men prophets ? All women should have been prophets and all men should have remained at home. Why are men physically strong to do constructions and labour, why not women should do this. Why does a woman has to keep a baby in her womb for 9 months, and why does she has to feed milk to the child while men don’t have to do any such thing. It should be the men who should do all this stuff for the child. Why do women have monthly periods, men should have monthly periods…etc”.

^ Thanks God, God has not given this power to “those” people, otherwise “they” seem to have even tried that and would have done everything opposite to the system of the nature, which they presently seem to be trying to their level best. They are de-grading, abusing, insulting, presenting them as sexual object and making fun of the graceful gender called “woman” in all possible ways specially through media.

I am not against education and working of women, but why does it seem that in most cases this has been done at the cost of “something” which kept a high status and respect of women since 100 years from now and before, WOMEN, who were the symbol of modesty, grace, bashfulness, haya, decency, sincerity,love and NO one had the right to look at her as a sexual object or something like a decoration piece has now been persuaded to get education by leaving her most valuable and precious treasure of her life.

Why isn’t women been given the right of education without de-grading her in all ways ??

p.s. I am not talking about specific cases but most cases in the world.

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Why do you think there will be more women in hell as opposed to men?

West says, 'Muslim women are oppressed...'...The confused or those of weak faith proclaim 'yes, we are...' and try to copy the western women...

Not realizing that the western woman has the bleakest of futures...Her husband can abandon her leaving her for someone else...She will have to survive on her own...As she gets older her kids may abandon her for not spending enough time with them...She will never know the true security of having a husband who for her through and through...

But the confused Muslim women still go after them...Thinking being argumentative, catty, obnoxious is liberation...

It's not...It's hitting your own feet with an axe...

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^^ Exactly.

Well said Submission to peace

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I don't think there would be more women in hell. I am no one to judge that. I don't even know if I would go to heaven or hell.

I am only saying that women have been mistreated by some people of media and other organizations, who are actually using women in immoral ways, for their own benefits.

They are double faced people who are either forcing them or persuading them to achive "freedom" and "equality with men", but actually they are taking most women in the wrong direction. That is why today in "most" of the medias and other places women are mostly presented as a sexual object or a decoration piece, by decreasing their clothes, puting more paint on them, and using them for seduction ( which is considered to be a source of gaining popularity)

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In western cultures, a women's promiscuity is part of her prestige...The porn stars are the most liberated of women, then come promiscuous girls, then those who sleep around the most and so on...Basically, the more a girl is used by the male of the species, the more liberated she is...

In the Muslim world, the liberation has started from being looked at...The more men ogle at your revealing dresses, the more liberated you are...the more you stimulate men's visual pleasure, the more liberated you are...The more you become an object of man's stares, the more liberated you are...

While those who choose not to be ogled and used by men for their pleasure are oppressed...

It's all confusion in their minds...

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Exactly I agree with you totally

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yup takes a lot of physical strength to write code or trouble shoot software bugs. as evidenced bythe chiseled physiques of average desi kangri pehelwaan techies :)

matlab if the job is pathat torna toh then it may be a different discussion.. although now they have machines that help with that..kher.

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Why is that weird? They can and they do. Ever heard of bikinis/bikini tops or nudist beaches/colonies? :rolleyes:

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hey did you know that men can breastfeed too? pretty cool huh? i just learned this fact a while ago....

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Henry the VIII used to breastfeed his children...

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Again superb and excellent posts by STP

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and very nice replies by Hyperactive and sis. Heera .....

this is just what is said is Beijing Plus 5 conferences....this is what Dr. Asrar Ahmed used to say....break the muslim concept and instiution of home...break thier good norms..break thier family bondages...let women be treated as "sex slave" just for the pleasure of man for 30 35years...then put her in old-houses so that she wait for a single card with flowers on the "Mother-day" once in a year....give them the shinning of "equality" of women and men....blind them with the attractive symbols of economy growth....this is wht West is doing...this is what Jewish Media is diong..this is what local NGO's are doing.....

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Let women decide what they want to do for themselves without interference from any other person, man or woman. Even if you don't agree with what they do it is their choice, not yours. You are not their keeper, they are not your pets.

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excellent post :k:

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but we will see what the religion decide for them....not yours ...understand....

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*Exactly. Dawa i dil. *

Thanks for liking and calling me sis Tusi tay dil khush kitta si. Lots of love if you are a girl.

They are brain washing muslims to make them like themselves (Nungi qoum).

Allah bachaay Islam aur musalmanon ko inki shaitaniat say Ameen.


Hum musalmanon nain awareness paida kartay rahna hai akhri dum tuk rasta dikhatay rahna hai logon ko khuwah wo muslim hon kay non muslim. Yay hum sub musalmanon ki zimmaydari hai aur farz bhi hai.

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Thats what I was going to post next thanks to Allah I saw you post.

Bohat say log la ilmi ki wajah say ghalat faislay kar saktain hain. Is liaay aisay hi naheen chor' dena chahyay kisi ko khuwah mard hon kay aurat kay unhon nain kia karna hain unko sahi aur ghalat batana hai aur batatay rahna hai jub tuk kay wo sahi na karnay lagain. Yay hum sub musalmanon ki zimmaydari aur hum pay farz hai warna Allah qiamat kay din hum say poochay ga kay hum nain kioon apni zimmaydari na nibhai aur farz ada na kia.

Hum sub tarjumaan hain Muhammad sallallaho Alaihi Wassalim kay kay unkay deen ko yani deen a Ibrahimi pay lain logon ko.

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i 100% agree with you...every matter is not on everyone's choice where religion put limits...no choice ....!!!!

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Exactly.

Islam kay dairay main rah kar sub jaiz hai aur Islam kay dairay say bahir sub kuch na jaiz.

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Its hard to beleive that some posters actually beleive the types of things stated by hyperactive....shallow and ignorant ideas to say the least.

The idea raised in this thread is that some women want to be equal in all ways, like wearing the same manner of dress as men or working while hubby stays home. Never in my life here in the west have I met anyone of this nature although I'm sure there are these "fringe types" out there. No way are they the norm though, or even close to it.

Traditional family life is something that is desired by many, both in the west and in the east. Where mom can be home with the little ones at least while they're young, and Dad brings home the paycheck.

Thats not possible many times, esp in the west where cost of living is so high. Its also a personal choice as to whether little ones have mommy at home or at work. Dont kid yourselves, as I've said before there are many women who can have nice family life AND a career - when the marriage is based on mutual understanding and support. I have seen it work nicely for many couples and their children. It isnt such a bad thing, either for your girl children to see a professional Mom going off to her job, it sets a good example. And boy children can see that both Moms AND Dads can go to work, making them less prone to gender bias.

Actually, why SHOULDNT a woman be at least capable of earning a living for her family if the need or desire should arise? I used to have a very good career and although I'd not earn like I did before, it IS a comfort to know that I'd be able to take care of my family if god forbid anything ever happened to my husband. If this were not the case, what would I do if something happened to him? Go out and desperately seek a new husband to support me and my kids? Sorry, that prospect just doesnt cut it with me.