A Jordanian friend told me once that ‘Muhammad’ is how the British spell the name and therefore he does not spell it the same way. If I remember correctly, he used to spell his name something like ‘Mohummed’
I have been also told that Koran is disrespectful, it is actually Quran. Just like there are no mosques, they are all masajid and dare not call them temples. We don’t sing the Quran, we recite it.
Why be so stubborn about it all?
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It wouldn't bother me if someone spells Koran as Quran or vice versa or Muhammed or Mohammed, But, I think I read somewhere that the Muslim Ummah in large wanted Prophet Mohammed to be spelled as MOHAMMED and not Muhammed and therefore, all other ppl who were spelling their name as Mohammed were being spelled Muhammed.
As far as Masjid/ Mosque (mosque is an english name to Masjid as in arabic and farsi) is concerend they can't be temples or churches or synogoses, just like you can't call a church a mosque.It's a unique name that identifies the faith of an individual where he goes. For eg: if some says he/she is going to a church, it depicts he/she is a christian. And if you say you are going to a Mosque you are a muslim. If the other party doesn't know what is a mosque, he/she should educate him. That's what I do ...
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It’s not about stubborness…It’s about respect…
Some people will see a page from a Quran on the ground and pass it by without a care…
And there have been those who had their heads cut off but held the word of Allah :swt: more than their lives…
And why call Masjids ‘Mosques’…What kind of a human being cannot pronounce Masjid? And when was the last time you said to your Christian friend, ‘Yaar, I love your Girjaghar’…
And it’s Quran, not Koran…If names can’t be Zulfikar, Wakar, Kasim, Kutbuddin then why does Quran have to be Koran?
Some people don’t say the proper words because it makes them very ‘unsophisticated’, so the Masjid becomes Mosque, Quran becomes Koran and Mohammed become Muhammad…
The correct pronunciation of the Prophet :saw:'s name is ‘Mo-Haam-eD’…It’s not ‘Moo-Hum-Mud’ like Pakis say…
We make Arabic sound like Rubbish…
Reminds me one time when some Ahmadi guy posted the recited names of Allah :swt: sung by Pakis…Yukh…
Then listen to the one I posted recited by an Egyptian…Then you’ll see the difference…
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If the qaaf is changed to kaaf, the whole meaning changes no? not that most people would know any better, but does 'koran' change the meaning at all?
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Now I understand why ABCDs object when I say Amrika, I guess they are right, it is America.
Lajo, don't be making fun of someone's pronunciation in matters of faith. Hazrat Bilal (ra) couldn't pronounce quite like an Arab & people laughed at him but AnHazoor (saw) didn't like their behavior.
Which brings me to the idea behind this thread 'it is the intentions that matter' not the words.
BTW, the thread was inspired by a group of Mullahs admonishing a professor at my former university (who happens to be Shia) who while replying to a question regarding Islam to a primarily nonMuslim audience spelled Koran. It was embarrassing to say the least.
If we can't even unite and forgive the Qs and Ks of each other in front of a packed nonMuslim audience, what tolerant religion we claim to profess?
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The holier than thou and snobbish attitude displayed by some of the muslims will make you feel as if Islam is a highly elitist faith, where unless you have all your i’s dotted and t’s crossed, you are a lousy practitioner. Pretty unfortunate, but a reality.
I am assuming by “embarassing” you are referring to the public admonishment and not the spelling of the Professor.
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i dont think it matters how its pronounced as long as it is not meant to be degrading. arabs can't pronounce P and S properly. i guess i shudn't forgive them for not pronouncing my name properly? ridiculous.
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i thought it was Jeem they cudnae pronounce, so Jummah is gummah and jam is gam. how do they pronounce the letter s?
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Faisal Bhai, I was embarrassed at the way it was brought to attention of everyone, almost discrediting the Professor who very humbly announced in the beginning of panel discussion that he is not an expert, even after writing two books about Islam (& Democracy).
An email to him afterwards pointing out the K would have been fine.
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ahmadjee,
Well at least the mullahs didn't blow themselves up. You gotta give them points for that.
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Just to play the role of advocate for the other side, I’ve seen all of those names spelt like that before by Muslims. An example is the “Shaheed Zulfikar Ali Bhutto Institute of Science & Technology”, in Karachi.
Also, Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall, the first Muslim translator of the Quran who’s first language was English, spelt it in English as “Koran”.
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My take is, it’s all and over in the past…Muslims were called Muhameddans, but that’s over…Islam was always touted as a religion spread by the sword, thanks to historians and researchers, that is now a myth…Muslims were writtens as Moslems, but now the majority of reputable publications know better…Mohammed :saw:'s name was written as Mahomet…
As for us Muslims, we should know better…And if we know better (at least against non-Mulims), we should enlighten…
To keep repeating a rectified error is ignorant in my view…
In fact, in a class I took about Islamic history and civilization (a class filled to capacity), I was amazed at the knowldege that many non-Muslims had…Shamefully, some actualy had more knowledge than what I have seen from many Muslims…(I include myself in that category too, unfortunately)…
So, if you know, tell…Do not keep repeating errors that have been pointed out…
It is Qur’an, not Koran…
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Ahmedjee, I was not making fun of anyone’s pronunciation…I was merely stating a fact that Pakis can’t speak Arabic to save their lives…
But we do seem to enjoy and make fun of FOBs when they speak lousy English…(Some call it cute…:D)
So, being lousy at Arabic is a fact, not humour…You’re either good at it or you aren’t…Simple…
At least one can write correctly…Or is that too much to ask?
At least the FOBs write correctly…What’s this Shia guy’s excuse?
Don’t tell me there are FOBs in Islam too…
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I thot saying “mosque” instead of masjid was somehwat offensive becoz of the origins of the word mosque… 
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Why Is it okay to write "Quran" in the roman script anyway?
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How else will you write in in English?
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I dont know, is it proper to write such stuff in english?
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Of course it is...But I hate bad spellings and grammar...And I try to correct someone as a goodwill gesture, so at a company, one doesn't embarrass oneself...
Think of me as the digital version of Miss Manners...:Pretty:
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Isnt the "Qu" sound in english way unlike what the holy book is called in arabic anyway?
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Yes it is...But it's the closest we can come up with to give justice to the real word...