Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
As far as i have gauged wishing merry christmas is impermissible with an exception. Some of the shaykhs of recent times have done it outside of the spirit of the exception. And of course it appears people are doing it willy nilly
It appears a bidah dalala [reprehensible innovation], certainly for the common folk to be doing it. This is my opinion and perception of the matter
The people of Allah Ta’ala should be celebrating Milad un Nabi SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam and wishing mubarak to this rather then christmas. The reason for this is that Nabi SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam is Rehmatul lil Alameen. So when Allah Ta’ala Said for us to be let showing joyous celebration at The Mercy, Prophet Muhammad SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam who saved us from polytheism deserves to be celebrated rather then an occasion which marks the concept of birth of god. Astagfirullah
Christmas represents a wrong and as such should not be honoured. Isa Alaihis Salam deserves to be honoured but our Nabi SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam is Sayyidul Anbiya.
I know how you guys feel however. Although it can be shirk but for the average person it would not be shirk to wish them a merry christmas but its imperssible [as far i know]
We will have to see how this develops in the future
There is fear with it developing into something that will take us into the fire as Bidahs can
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
Surah Maryam 19 :88-92 And they say, “The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.”
You have done an atrocious thing.
The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation
That they attribute to the Most Merciful a son.
And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.
I wonder how a Muslim can disregard the fact that what Christians believe with saying merry Christmas. saying merry Christmas and telling that we dont believe what christians believe does not make sense as it still involves you in the propagation of their message.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
If a Christian says ‘Eid Milad u nabhi mubarak’, then it means he believes in what is written in Quran and Sahah Sitta
if we look at the meaning of phrase ‘Merry / Happy Christmas’, its same as ‘Eid Milad u nabhi mubarak’, Christ being equal to Maseeh as used in Quran for Hazrat Isa (AS) and mæsse / Mas for celebration / communion.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
So you completely gave Hazrat Isa’s rights to Christians. Fortunately or unfortunately, Quran’s teaching are different as Muslims are told therein to own all the Prophets. If someone celebrates one of the those prophet’s birth and we just share their celebrations (without believing what they believe), how come this make us less Muslims.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
saying merry Christmas to Christians is not equal to owning Isa (AS) either. If you think you really own Isa (AS) with Islamic perspective then can you tell Christians following verse of Quran as well?
Surat An-Nisā’ 14:171
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, “Three”; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
What about the first teaching ‘come to what is common between us’? When we are not allowed to wish them ‘Merry Christmas’, how come will they allow us to go through the debate you are referring. One has to create comfort zone among those to whom he wants to preach. Remember feasts given by the Prophet to his relatives before conveying his message to them.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
Most of the Christians do not take Bible literally anymore. Most of the Atheists celebrating christmas also say “Merry Christmas”. Are they propagating Christian religion? It is more of a cultural event now, rather than a religious one.
How are the words ‘merry Christmas’ related with the concept of Jesus (AS) being son of God or with trinity?
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
Now this is subjective. One cant go beyond the thought that lead to particular action including saying / wishing someone their religious festivals. I would be height of generalisation if we cover all such people under same blanket statement.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
I believe our actions are judged by our intentions. Its a hadith too “innamal a’malu binniyat”, so at most the wisher is wishing a wishee only as show of respect or to be courteous, so I don’t think there is any harm since our intention is NOT to accept jesus as son of god.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
I didnt say people saying merry Christmas to Christians are actually agreeing with them but my point is, it still involves you in propagation of what Christians themselves believe with saying merry Christmas.
Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?
But I told you what does Merry Christmas mean. It doesn’t have anything to do with Christian beliefs. If we go by this analogy, then following Christian calendar will also hurt our same nerves.