Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?

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Re: Wishing the christians happy christmas? Allowed or no?

@kakaballi

This is classic. You invoke ‘intention’ when you like and reject it when you don’t.

So, the intention of the person saying “Merry Christmas” would not matter?

This half quoting wont work

I think you got me mixed up with mullah gustakh, no that’s not me [In Sha Allah]

I said [in the post you part quoted]:

Saying Merry Christmas and bowing to Graves can be shirk. Standing could be shirk too
Christian belief on Isa Alaihis Salam is confirmed by The Religion to be Shirk

Where as Bowing to people is confirmed command of Allah Ta’ala to Angels and a Sunnah of the Prophets Alaihis Salam confirmed in the Quran. This is called a Tazeemi Sajda.

Its not permissible in our Shariah, Imam Ahmad Raza Khan has termed it Haram in our Shariah. It is not shirk unless the person intended worship. We are not to term the person bowing infront of a Grave as a Mushrik. This is the Shariah position on it. It is not Shirk

As long as you know the legislator of what is Shirk and what is not has confirmed christians as mushriks, and Tazeemi Sajda as a Sunnah of His Righteous Servants you will know I am not in a glass House.

In Sha Allah this is not taken as rude, but you need to know the abc of islam before you can say we and the christians are the same. You do not qualify for this rank

Im not being rude but this is the truth. its Absurd lack of understanding

Some of the reasons why Tazeemi Sajda is not Shirk is contained in the above post. A sufficient amount

Remember Tazeemi Sajda is impermissible no matter the intention in our Shariah [laws], it is not Shirk however. They are two different things

Now onto your current contention: That I apply ‘intention’ when i like and reject it when i do not

In Sha Allah I will be kept away from such hypocrisy

The truth is I have not even talked about the intention of merry christmas wisher

You really have got me confused for someone else. My reputation and language probably adds to this confusion, so it is partly my fault

However partly the fault is with those reading my posts and their lack of comprehension aka reading ability

What I have said on wishing merry christmas and shirk is the following *:
“Saying Merry Christmas and bowing to Graves can be shirk. Standing could be shirk too…”
“…Although it can be shirk but for the average person it would not be shirk to wish them a merry christmas but its imperssible [as far i know]…”

See No shirk allegation on ‘merry christmas’

It was one of the points i intentionally made, but since then the pro merry christmas crowd have been contending with me partly for saying it is impermissible to wish merry christmas and partly for other more personal reasons [whom I by the help of Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala exposed to their own faults, may they benefit and do tauba after this very lesson]*