** **Wisdom of Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh)
Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh) paid a visit to Madinah where he was approached by Imaam Baakeer – who was one of the prominent Ulama in Madinah. Imaam Baakeer asked Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh): “Are you the Imaam Abu Hanifah who changed the Deen of my grandfather?”
Imaam Abu Hanifah replied: “O Imaam Baakeer! You have been misinformed about me. Sit down so that I can clear myself.”
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me, O Imaam Baakeer! Who is the weaker sex, the male or the female?
Imaam Baakeer replied: The female.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me of the male and female: what is the portion of their inheritance?
Imaam Baakeer: For the male, two portions, and for the female, one portion.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: O Imaam Baakeer, if I were to follow my own deduction, then I would have given two portions for the female and one portion for the male!
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Which is greater, Salaah or Saum (Fasting)?
Imaam Baakeer: Salaah.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: If I were following my own fancies as you have accused me of – changing the Deen of your grandfather – then I would have made Qadah of Salaah compulsory for the woman who is menstruating and not Qadah of Fasting that she owes, seeing that we both agree that Salaah is greater than Saum.
By now Imaam Baakeer was getting excited, and he said: “Tell me more.” He was deeply impressed with Imaam Abu Hanifah.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me, O Imaam Baakeer! Which is more unclean: semen or urine?
Imaam Baakeer: Urine is the more unclean of the two.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: O Imaam Baakeer, if I were to change the Deen of your grandfather Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) then I would have made ghusl compulsory after urinating and only wudhu necessary after ejection. I am only following the Deen of our Nabi Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam).
Upon hearing this, Imaam Baakeer was overjoyed and kissed the forehead of Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh
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ejection?
please do not ridicule your imams by belittling their wisodm to urine and ejaculation discussion and asking who is stronger male or female. it is this fairy tale history of yours that has gotten the muslims to this miserable condition we find ourselves in.
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Source?
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okay who was there writing all of this down while these Imams had this discourse?
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Their Students.
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Whos was their students?should we blindly agree with tht.This is stupidity man All Imams Writing and books r so illogical and they hve splited the Whole Nation of Mumains and created amongs them so many sectors and each of these sectors feels tht they r on true and genuine path.Allah ka khoof kahaooo yea Yaad Rakhoo Imamoo ka deen se koi Talaq nahi in ke hasiyaat aaaj ke mullah jaisay hai.Sab se bary Munkir e Hadees yea hi log thai.
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it seems that people used to agree with each other a lot in those days after conversations and werent afraid to show it. every conversation I've read involving such a personage ends with one of the two being kissed on the hand/embraced/kissed on the foot/gazed at with universal adulation. in gupshup terms the entire discussion forum involved nadia_h talking to nadia_h.
simpler times.
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The quran is very Clear tht we should only follow Allah And Quran in our every aspect of life.And the Quran is true Sunnah of Muhammad pbuh.Quran is HAq Those Who belived So called Mullah and Imams Should Read these Ayaats and Should remember these ayaats if they feel tht they should also follow the man made books.U know Quran is true source of pure knowledge Because its comes from Allah
(47:3). This is because those who oppose the Divine Order follow what is false, while those who believe in it pursue the programme given by their Rabb. This programme is based on truth and is capable of producing positive results. **
*This is how *Allah explains people the parables of their affairs
5:48 O Rasool, likewise We have sent you a Book based on truth. It validates and subsumes the true teachings of the earlier Books. You should judge between them according to what Allah has revealed and do not follow their desires which make you deviate from the truth
6:116 Allah’s laws based on truth and justice have been set forth in this Book **
*in a complete form. None has the authority to make any change in these laws(18/27). This is because this Book has been sent down by *Allah who hears and knows everything
*(15:9) There is no doubt that it is We, Ourselves, who have bestowed this *Quran step by step and it is We who shall see that it always remains preserved. **
41:42. The disruptive and furtive forces may come from any side; from the front or the back (or they may have a head-on clash). They may even plan conspiracies. However, they cannot do any harm to the truth. The falsehood cannot succeed by attacking the truth. This is so because it has been revealed by God, Who is the best planner and worthy of all Hamd (1:1).
(33:40)The institution of Nubuwwah (receiving directives through Wahi) will be coming to an end with him
(80:13-16)That is why We have not kept it secret; and have had it written on very honorable pages (so that whoever so desires, can read and benefit from it).
Its teachings aim at producing sublime intellect and purity of character.
And those who scribe it and disseminate it further are highly truthful, respectable and virtuous
(52:1/2/3). The Divine Guidance which sometimes appeared on mount Sinai (and sometimes on the mount Olive ~ 95:1-3); and this Book (the Quran) which is in front of you, written on a fine velum parchment and publicized in the farthest of places; and
(29:49). The aforementioned was external evidence regarding the Divinity of his Book. Its internal evidence is its teachings. Whenever people of intellect and wisdom reflect on it, they realise that these Divine Laws are very clear and convincing and they feel as if the Quran is saying something which is from their own hearts. Only those people who are unjust, rebellious and stubborn and want to stay in darkness due to their ignorance, would reject it.
Now Tell me those who belived tht we should follow the man made book which is also the source of deen hve the same postion tht Quran Hve **
**Agar Haan jaab tum is baat ka inkaar kar do Tu Haq ke Taraf Ajaoo kion ke Iman Lanay ka maqsaad yea nahi ke quran ke ek do ayaat per imaan laya jaye Balke Tumhe is poray quran per Imaan lana hoo Ga
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simpler times.
Spot on.
If one goes thru what people claim about their Imams be it shias or sunnies, its amazing to find how similar different "encounters" and contents of the stories are.
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sometimes it is actuallly the same story! i've even read a story that had two versions with the 'knowledgable guy' and the 'humbled-in-the-end guy' switched around.
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Some of the stories are just plain ridiculous. Like someone was telling me story about how "one blessed" person turned into a lion etc. When i told the guy i don't buy it, he became furious and started calling me napaak wahabi.
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Allahuakber. May Allah guide us.
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God, this is really sad. Why such foul language?
Dawa-i-dil
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He was , i think , 5 imam of shia muslims and some "kufi" coming to madina would have told that """
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No, Imam Abu Hanifa is not the 5th Imam of Ahle Tashi.
He was the student of Imam Jaffer Sadiq. Though many look up upon
the school of thoughts of Imam Abu Hanifa, they fail to mention the mentor
he had. This is a historical fact.
Now, all these terms of being Shia, Sunni, Ahle Hadice or Ahmadis......why should we act like our elder generation?
Havent we learned anything by now?
Just my humble opinion..........
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Wisdom of Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh)
Question and answer between (Imam Jaafar sadiq) and Abu Hanifa
A confrontation is reported between Imam Jafar as Sadiq (a.s)and his former student of two years Imam Abu Hanifa- who heads the Sunni Hanafi school of jurisprudence- as follows:
Imam Jafar as Sadiq (as)asks Abu Hanifa if he has taken upon himself to issue fatwas. When he replies in affirmative, the Imam asks him:
’ Which of the two is more important, Salat or Saum?’
After some deliberation, Abu Hanifa says: ‘Salat, O Ibne Rasulallah.’
‘Tell me then, Abu Hanifa, why is it that when women miss out on salat or saum due to their mensturation, they are not obligated to pray qaza salat but are obligated to observe qaza saum?’
Abu Hanifa, ’ You know better O ibne Rasulallah.’
Imam Jafar as Sadiq (a.s): ’ Which is a more serious sin, murder or adultery?’
Abu Hanifa: ‘Murder’
Imam Jafar as Sadiq (as): ‘Why then are just two witnesses required to convict for murder and four for adultery?’
Abu Hanifa: ‘You know better, O ibne Rasulallah.’
**(This was his wisdom) 
**
Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh) paid a visit to Madinah where he was approached by Imaam Baakeer – who was one of the prominent Ulama in Madinah. Imaam Baakeer asked Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh): “Are you the Imaam Abu Hanifah who changed the Deen of my grandfather?”
Imaam Abu Hanifah replied: “O Imaam Baakeer! You have been misinformed about me. Sit down so that I can clear myself.”
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me, O Imaam Baakeer! Who is the weaker sex, the male or the female?
Imaam Baakeer replied: The female.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me of the male and female: what is the portion of their inheritance?
Imaam Baakeer: For the male, two portions, and for the female, one portion.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: O Imaam Baakeer, if I were to follow my own deduction, then I would have given two portions for the female and one portion for the male!
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Which is greater, Salaah or Saum (Fasting)?
Imaam Baakeer: Salaah.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: If I were following my own fancies as you have accused me of – changing the Deen of your grandfather – then I would have made Qadah of Salaah compulsory for the woman who is menstruating and not Qadah of Fasting that she owes, seeing that we both agree that Salaah is greater than Saum.
By now Imaam Baakeer was getting excited, and he said: “Tell me more.” He was deeply impressed with Imaam Abu Hanifah.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: Tell me, O Imaam Baakeer! Which is more unclean: semen or urine?
Imaam Baakeer: Urine is the more unclean of the two.
Imaam Abu Hanifah: O Imaam Baakeer, if I were to change the Deen of your grandfather Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) then I would have made ghusl compulsory after urinating and only wudhu necessary after ejection. I am only following the Deen of our Nabi Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wasallam).
Upon hearing this, Imaam Baakeer was overjoyed and kissed the forehead of Imaam Abu Hanifah (rahmatullah alayh
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Well healty mind, having more witness is nothing to do with severity of the SIN. It is actually to ensure that crimes like adultery (dirty crimes against oneself not society) if happening indoors should stay out of reach of state and be punished by Allah in afterlife. Even if this explanation is not plausible to some readers i fail to see the link between number of witness and severity of crime. Can you establish such link and i am not sure where but Quran also has been very tough on murder. more than adultery.
About Saum & Salat debate, again this is illogical. saums are once a year and Quran specifically asks for qaza saums but Qaza salat has no mention in Quran but only in riwayaats. Infact some scholars say that this concept of Qaza Salaat was devised by Faqeeh's basing on Hadiths where if Farzes are deficinet, anafals will be weighed against them and these qaza salaats are nothing but anfaals. (i may be wrong on this count but again you cannot judge the debate on this argument)
To me this dialogue does not seem authentic between two stalwarts of Fiqah but a fabrication of some lesser mind. Both sides have generated their own versions to justify their positions behind their Imams
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To me this dialogue does not seem authentic between two stalwarts of Fiqah but a fabrication of some lesser mind. Both sides have generated their own versions to justify their positions behind their Imams
Might be. We seem to have a these type of information about every prominant personality. Its interesting if we apply hadith kind of criiteria to ascertain that these events actually happened or not, or is just the account of any historian enough to accept it.
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Ahle Sunnat Ullam View about Imam Abu Hanifa:
*Abu Hamid Ghazali in his book Manqul fi Ilmi'l-Usul says: *"In fact Abu Hanifa distorted the religious code, made its way doubtful, changed its arrangement, and intermingled the laws in such a way that the code prescribed by the Holy Prophet was totally disfigured. One who does so deliberately and considers it lawful is an infidel. One who does it knowing it to be unlawful is a sinner." According to this great scholar, Abu Hanifa was either an infidel or a sinner. Many other books condemn Abu Hanifa. Jarullah Zamakhshari, the author of Tafsir-e-Kashshaf and one of your pious ulema, writes in Rabiu'l-Abrar that Yusuf Bin Asbat said: "Abu Hanifa rejected at least 400 hadith of the Prophet of Islam." Yusuf remarked that "Abu Hanifa said: 'Had the Prophet of Islam known me, he would have accepted many of my sayings.'"
Your own ulema have made similar criticisms of Abu Hanifa and the other three Imams. They can be found in Ghazali's Mutahawwal, Shafi'i's Nuqtu'sh-Sharifa, Zamakhshari's Rabiu'l-Abrar, and Ibn Jauzi's Muntazim. Imam Ghazali says in his Mutahawwal, "There are many mistakes in Abu Hanifa's work. He had no knowledge of etymology, grammar, or hadith." He also writes, "Since he had no knowledge of hadith, he relied on his own conjecture. The first being who acted on conjecture was Satan."
Ibn Jauzi writes in his Muntazim, "All the ulema are united in condemning Abu Hanifa. There are three categories of such critics: one group holds that his faith in the fundamentals of Islam was uncertain; another says that he lacked a strong memory and could not remember hadith; a third believes that he acted on conjecture and that his opinion was always at variance with the true hadith."
Your own ulema have criticized your Imams. The Shia ulema have not attributed anything to them except what your own ulema have said about them. On the other hand, there is no difference of opinion among the Shia ulema concerning the position of the twelve Imams. We regard the holy imams as the pupils of the same teaching. These Imams - all of them - acted according to divine laws which the last of the Prophets gave them. They never acted on conjecture or approved of innovations. What they said or did agreed with the sayings of the Prophet. Hence, there was no difference among them.
Imam Shafi'i said: "There never was born a more damned person in Islam than Abu Hanifa." He also said: "I looked into the books of the companions of Abu Hanifa, and I found in them 130 pages containing matter in opposition to the Holy Qur'an and the Sunna."
About Saum & Salat debate, again this is illogical. saums are once a year and Quran specifically asks for qaza saums but Qaza salat has no mention in Quran but only in riwayaats. Infact some scholars say that this concept of Qaza Salaat was devised by Faqeeh's basing on Hadiths where if Farzes are deficinet, anafals will be weighed against them and these qaza salaats are nothing but anfaals. (i may be wrong on this count but again you cannot judge the debate on this argument)
To me this dialogue does not seem authentic between two stalwarts of Fiqah but a fabrication of some lesser mind. Both sides have generated their own versions to justify their positions behind their Imams
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what an outright lie!!!
its very well known that when imam shaafi went to the grave of imam abu hanifa (ra) he prayed according to the mansak of abu hanifa (ra) in honor of the great imam…
the same imam shafi says in praise of imam abu hanifa (ra) that he was a man of such intelligence that if only a debate of logic was required he cud easily prove day as night and night as day…
and u bring forward such garbage from where???
copy/paste from a shiaa website to spread hatred amongst sunnis 
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Did you mean to say “maslak” ?
and there has been a lot going on brother when you were on hajj..
BTW
Hajj Mabrook!
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healthymind, your not healthy...