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i dont think any of that is real, mezbaan bhai. just a figment of shawna's imagination.
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Cool story bro. Should have thrown in some dinosaurs
HAHA.
too many aggravted, passive-aggressive multis running around.
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@shawns/Eliminator/hottie24/whoever I left out
You mentioned somewhere (but I can't seem to find it now) that you have quite a bit of anger/resentment towards Pakistani culture/society because your wife was mistreated by her previous husbands and that is understandable. However, there is no need to be so hostile towards the posters here or hold them accountable for the actions of two people who they have no connection to other than being of the same ethnic background.
I think it is a bit unfair and illogical of you to judge an entire group of people based on the actions of two people. While I understand that they may not be the only or the last men to behave badly, two people alone are hardly representative of Pakistani people as a whole and you should not jump to conclusions and assume that posters on here are like them or approve of their bad behaviour (you also called the posters on here a callous bunch). You should also note that horrible men are not only found among Pakistanis and that every culture has its share of those.
Alright, rant over now.
**Disclaimer: I'm not Pakistani/desi, so there is no bias there.
then why is the entire forum filled with Fil, mil, dil,bil treating the girl that sacrificed everything for this man t like garbage and the man is supporting and involved in that behaviour and all the big advisors encouraging the poor girl to take this crap and be thankful, why is the guy never looking after the girls parents, in this society it is mostly the girls look after the parents, I know as I was involved in seniors housing...and yeah all the threads about husbands cheating.
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^^^And the three Pakistani girls that go to school with my boy, their dads beat the crap out of them, that is three for three out of 100.
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^**Some **people may hold those views, but not everyone does. I certainly don't and neither do many of the posters I usually interact with. Again, you're generalising. Just as you seem to know plenty of Pakistani people that are horrid, I know plenty that are not and are in fact quite decent people, so no need to generalise.
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^**Some **people may hold those views, but not everyone does. I certainly don't and neither do many of the posters I usually interact with. Again, you're generalising.
You tell me if Unicef report of 70 t0 90 percent women being abused in Pakistan is wrong. Tell me how many male posters keep their mils bils ils in their house
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^So you assume that the posters on here and Pakistani people in general approve of this abuse? Most people that I know find it as appalling as you do.
As far as how many male posters allow their in laws to live with them, I cannot answer that as I don't know every male poster on here and therefore, cannot ask them. However, I do know a couple gentleman in real life who have some of their wives' family members living with them.
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^So you assume that the posters on here and Pakistani people in general approve of this abuse? Most people that I know find it as appalling as you do.
As far as how many male posters allow their in laws to live with them, I cannot answer that as I don't know every male poster on here and therefore, cannot ask them. However, I do know a couple gentleman in real life who have some of their wives' family members living with them.
When a few abused women on the rape thread talked about their ordeals not too many men showed support, million men will stand up here to support victimized women, I you don't acknowledge a problem you can't fix it here we are aggressively working to fix it, now the victim is not allowed to bring charges up or withdraw them, the police lays charges and victim can't withdraw the charges.
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then why is the entire forum filled with Fil, mil, dil,bil treating the girl that sacrificed everything for this man t like garbage and the man is supporting and involved in that behaviour and all the big advisors encouraging the poor girl to take this crap and be thankful, why is the guy never looking after the girls parents, in this society it is mostly the girls look after the parents, I know as I was involved in seniors housing...and yeah all the threads about husbands cheating.
Hottie, you should do a search on Non-desi MIL horror-stories, you'd be surprised. I have personally heard some crazy anecdotes on in-laws from goray folk. It's not just a Desi phenomenon...but we tend to think it is because we tend to be more involved/into our own culture. Maybe because Eastern cultures focus more on joint-family and unity whereas Western culture focus more on individuality....this could be one reason why the issue of in-laws receives more emphasis/attention. As for infidelity.....have you checked the statistics on cheating in the West? It's a greater social stigma for Desi women....I'm not saying they can't or don't cheat....but culture/religion...make it tougher for them. I've told you this before and Mezghan is telling you the same thing....these things (divorces, infidelity, corruption)...they happen everywhere ...it's not confined to one country or race. I take it you're Desi...right? So non-desi people....would assume that you're Pakistani or Indian etc...right? And people, rather automatically, form stereotypes in their mind about a person's ethnicity. How would you feel if someone makes negative assumptions about you just based on their guess about your ethnicity...merely from your looks? I doubt you'd appreciate it. The thing is...you are doing that to the people of the same ethnic background as you.
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Hottie, you should do a search on Non-desi MIL horror-stories, you'd be surprised. I have personally heard some crazy anecdotes on in-laws from goray folk. It's not just a Desi phenomenon...but we tend to think it is because we tend to be more involved/into our own culture. Maybe because Eastern cultures focus more on joint-family and unity whereas Western culture focus more on individuality....this could be one reason why the issue of in-laws receives more emphasis/attention. As for infidelity.....have you checked the statistics on cheating in the West? It's a greater social stigma for Desi women....I'm not saying they can't or don't cheat....but culture/religion...make it tougher for them. I've told you this before and Mezghan is telling you the same thing....these things (divorces, infidelity, corruption)...they happen everywhere ...it's not confined to one country or race. I take it you're Desi...right? So non-desi people....would assume that you're Pakistani or Indian etc...right? And people, rather automatically, form stereotypes in their mind about a person's ethnicity. How would you feel if someone makes negative assumptions about you just based on their guess about your ethnicity...merely from your looks? I doubt you'd appreciate it. The thing is...you are doing that to the people of the same ethnic background as you.
They do all the time and there is a reason for that, my Chinese client just told me that she has heard that Pakistanis treat their wives real bad, I just sold a house to this Iranian Realtor that is an amazingly beautiful lady and made 30k in commission's from us in 20 days span, and she was abused by her husband and shared with me that this is a big problem in their community. So even a beautiful and extremely successful lady is facing domination issues.
Good night if you guys let me go in peace than I would like to go.
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And in the public middle school that I taught at, the desi students had very healthy home lives…and it was the non-Desi students (whites, blacks, Hispanics) who were doing drugs, sleeping around, dad was in jail, mom has three kids all from different dads, messy divorces, I think maybe there was even a transgender case, student truancy issues leading to involvement of social workers, parents refusing to show up for conferences despite several requests, etc etc etc. What do you have to say to that, Hottie?
I have taught at an Islamic for several years where a good number of the students are Desi…and in all these years…I did not encounter the kind of sad home-life situations that the kids in public school had. The parents of the Pakistani girls in your example do not represent the many Desi parents I’ve worked with.
I can understand that experiences vary. But you need to stop treating your experience as the “be all-end all” …or like an absolute truth/law/rule. Instead of thinking that “Wow, it’s great that there are many Pakistani parents that don’t beat the crap out of their daughters.”… You prefer to stubbornly focus on the negative cases because they validate the bias you already have towards Pakistanis. You refuse to accept that positive examples exist as well.
“Let me go in peace”…? Don’t flatter yourself; nobody is keeping you chained here begging you not to leave. 
If you have the toys I like, and theyre for little kids, it DEFINITELY means its illegal for you to be near kids.
Dude. Not cool 
those are for adults.
Also I will take your silence on the matter as meaning yes, your mum is in BIG trouble.
See what I did there? I used a word that can be used to describe her, to describe the gravity of her situation. Ha! Gravity.
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Following the shawn/hottie/eliminator et al. saga is like following the split personality story in a bad soap opera
…Please stay tuned for tomorrow’s episode when shawn tells us how hottie fathered his child…
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Dont forget the silent charackter 'honey'.
Honey is the force behind everything.
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Dont forget the silent charackter 'honey'.
Honey is the force behind everything.
Oh, honey's entry is the surprise twist in the storyline that is brought in at a most opportune moment.
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So we can almost say what we like eh.
Shawns/eliminator/hottie, your mother is so fat, not even Dora can explore her. Thats why your dad left her. He also left her cuz of your face.
champ
Hi STD Champ, I heard that Dora lost her entire fleet in your rotten smelly part, I know the gravity of the situation as that smelly grave has eaten many alive, I see that KHOTA moms are giving their kids some good manners. You don't need those toys you have a dad, or does he use those toys with you.
Aww you cant come up with new responses?
From your posts it was evident youve suffered extensive and irreversible brain damage. Atleast now we know its extent.
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champ
Hi STD Champ, I heard that Dora lost her entire fleet in your rotten smelly part, I know the gravity of the situation as that smelly grave has eaten many alive, I see that KHOTA moms are giving their kids some good manners. You don't need those toys you have a dad, or does he use those toys with you.
**** off. Sadist.
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Hottie, you should do a search on Non-desi MIL horror-stories, you'd be surprised. I have personally heard some crazy anecdotes on in-laws from goray folk. It's not just a Desi phenomenon...but we tend to think it is because we tend to be more involved/into our own culture. Maybe because Eastern cultures focus more on joint-family and unity whereas Western culture focus more on individuality....this could be one reason why the issue of in-laws receives more emphasis/attention. As for infidelity.....have you checked the statistics on cheating in the West? It's a greater social stigma for Desi women....I'm not saying they can't or don't cheat....but culture/religion...make it tougher for them. I've told you this before and Mezghan is telling you the same thing....these things (divorces, infidelity, corruption)...they happen everywhere ...it's not confined to one country or race. I take it you're Desi...right? So non-desi people....would assume that you're Pakistani or Indian etc...right? And people, rather automatically, form stereotypes in their mind about a person's ethnicity. How would you feel if someone makes negative assumptions about you just based on their guess about your ethnicity...merely from your looks? I doubt you'd appreciate it. The thing is...you are doing that to the people of the same ethnic background as you.
I am impressed by your knowledge. I always wanted someone to explain this hadith to me so I may have a better understanding of your faith.
Sahîh al-Bukhârî (3849): I had seen in the days of ignorance before Islam, some monkeys who surrounded a she-monkey who had committed unlawful sexual intercourse and they stoned it, so I stoned it along with them.
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I never thought of that 