Will responsible Pakistan Army officers be tried for East Pakistan mas

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the main thing is if you search for the truth u can find it anywhere..everywhere.. my uncle is a freedom fighter and i heard it and even saw some mass graves....whatever
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_libaration_war
this link can help u, just read the contens 1-11 and then try to watch the documentry on the website..basicallyshetai.com/bangla movies/documentry on 1971 war.

then come to talk with me i know the truth u didnt...its not your fault cause during and after the war ur goverment hide the truth and the other thing is ur newspaper media are not independent to show the truth to you..your govt. control them....okk read the document and watch the documentry then we will talk. byeee then

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So ur Uncle who was a freedom fighter a person who hated Pakistani and was taking part (by killing them or some what way) in the resistance movement is your source of Information??? what a source u got!!!

Then i already said that Information at WIKI is not bankable.... and u r giving me the same source again...

Yes u know the truth i agree, coz u uncle told u his part of story along with some addition ( which is common is South Asia), and thats how u know the truth...

and what if somebody comes and says that his uncle or kin was in the Pakistani forces or with the people who were with Pakistan at that time and he have told him the truth...

Should i believe him??? or i Should only believe u coz according to u, u have the truth ( and i know from where)....

The non-sense thread: Please do not expect any sense here!!!
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are u a fool???where i said that i heard every thing from my uncle ???i told that i heard and saw many mass graves..wikipidia is not bankable cause its not match ur source right???read it carefully and then talk with me and the other thing is i gave u a link to download a documentry watch that to..my dad say, dont argue with fools maybe he is right.tell me the reason why wiki is not trustable???while all of the world relay on information of this site..whatever ok u dont trust wiki no probs just download the documentry i have mantioned before.then come to talk..and the other thing is my uncle was a govt. employee..when he came back from dhaka and saw his wife, mother and sons grave...what do you think what should he do at that time???

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Ur moral values are obvious to me as it is said that a person is only known by the language he speaks, as far as i have concluded u seems to be either illetrate or lacks the moral value of civilized world ( what ever the case may be)

Now lets examine ur post

In ur earlier post u said:

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my uncle is a freedom fighter and i heard it and even saw some mass graves
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Now this was ur comment, either u don't know what u r writing or i don't know what did u meant when u said "My uncle was freedom fighter and i heard..." Now if ur uncle have not told u any story then y to mention him... just to tell us that ur uncle or u belong to a traitor family ( thats what a freedom fighter are normally called no matter what country they are from).. I still didn't get the reason for mentioning ur uncle... very importantly... you saw mass graves... who knows who lies in those... those could be of the people killed by the Indian army, by mukti bahni or by Pakistani army or simply they are victums of war... just because u saw some mass graves does not make Pakistan Army Guilty of Mass Murders but again looking into ur family back ground... U dare not to point any finger to India... or blame Mukti Bahni so the balme goes to Pak Army....

I don't think so u have left with any moral or logical weight in ur argument...

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so im from a traitor family right????is this a good manner to call anyone like this???so i can say that ur from a rapist and brutal criminal family/nation.
you r sick...so in your grandfather's or his father's graves ur not sure who lies there?? cause u didnt see them right???....by telling you that my uncle was a freedom fighter i meant that i was aware of '71 while many people dont know the fact..and mostly in every graves have a list of name who lies in there and i know you will search for a clue to make it a false information right???

whatever, the other thing is indian army entered bangladesh in 13dec probably...pakistan declared war against india in 3rd dec. pakistan fought only for 13 days..after that pakistan defeated...and the other thing is indian army entered bangladesh only for 11 days and before that pakistan fought with peasent, students, and other normal people and ex-army man. the other thing is wikipidia is not correct right???so you know the truth and its your patroitic duty to edit it and write the truth....so be it...edit the wiki as you said that anyone can edit and write in the wiki...and the other thing is america and china was on your side then how anyone can tell so many false things about the war??? siriously after meeting people like you, i realize that i should not argue with idiot.

and the other thing is i told you to watch the documentry did you forget????or afraid to watch???
whatever this is probably my last post cause im wasting my time.you dont have ability to understand anything.just remember hiding crime is not a example of good manarity...by confessing a crime a nation can be respectable to others.

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No, I gave a report by Sumit Sen, an Indian Bengali academic.

His primary sources are Western journalists who were in East Bengal in 1970-71, and witnessed the atrocities first hand. Denying the massacre of tens of thousands of Biharis is just as ignorant as denying the Pakistani army's atrocities against the Bengalis.

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the problem is you dont have any answer. thats why you foolishly come to the same points i have already cleared.jenab-e-ali, that rioting was result of not handing power to winners i.e. Mujib's AL. That rioting started in March, 71 when Bengalis knew that they would not get that right. Rights of Bengalis were violated repeatedly since 1947. By not giving the chance for making government resulted in rioting. even though the figure of kills and rape u r showing is not right(even if, i will heard about some killings or rape cause we dont ruled by dictators like yours and the other think is our news media dont fear to talk about our mistakes) and tell me how long you can sustain the injustices, hatread and prejudism by minority? Bengalis suffered this nonsense for 24 years. There is lots of information on internet google it prove how army committed the genocide. Also link Hamoodur-Rehman Commission Report where he made tons of army officers responsible. now tell me why they were not taken to task?

and i told you not to talk with me about this until you know it properly.what about the documentry i told you to watch???

i know even if you watch it you will not confess...let me tell you a story,
some pakistani friends, who live in aus. watched the documentry and many evidence. after that they cried, they couldnt imagine how their fathers made injustice and brutel crime like genoside and rape.they also realize if they live in pakistan,they wont be able heard the truth.forget it.the problem is you are not generous like them to confess your father's crime....

take my advice...go for some real information, if you cant get them then let me help you and then come back. okkk byeee then

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The rioting started in December of 1970.

And I don't care why it started...butchering innocent civilians is butchering innocent civilians. Justifying the massacre of Biharis only makes you look bad.

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This is a documentary by Aljazeera English on this topic. It is better to learn from our mistakes then to repeat them. This a lesson for the three sides of the conflict.

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And another one…It looks like Aljazeera has worked a lot on this topic.

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It is better to learn lesson from 1971. big mistakes was made. Pakistan is many ethnic community. now, if it is good one community come to power one time and then next one another time. If Bengali was allowed to form government East Pakistan will be one country. To learning this all students should educated because now other community fighting is slowly slowly starting

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justifying us makes us look bad and makes you look like innocent, helpless,just fall from the heven and the victim of crued genoside of bangladeshi butchers??? right??? yes we did a brutal crime we killed lots of pakistani biharis and even after that killing of biharis we killed lots of innocent friendly looking army of pakistan....at that time pakistani army came to our country without any arms and amunution.we r so cunning nation that we killed those unarmed innocent army while they didnt do any crime....so i confess. are you happy now???
idiots

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Blah blah blah.

Did I ever deny that the Pakistani army butchered Bengali civilians? No. Did I ever try to justify what the Pakistani army did to the Bengalis? No. All I said was that the Bengalis did their share of mass murder & rape.

Ironically, you're guilty of the exact thing you're falsely accusing me of...turning this into some ridiculous one sided atrocity. Good job.

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I still wish Bharatis were never involved in this sad event..but they found a great oppurtunity to take revange from Pakistan and muslims living in it.

do you feel better that I did not discuss a 'parallel universe' you imagine!

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I sincerely hope they're not teaching the concoction that JanabAli is penning here as history - for Pakistan's own sake. If the futurew generatins don't learn from the hard lessons of 1971 there cannot be any future for them.

ZaB, for all his smarts, let his passion get the better of him and ended up losing half Pakistan and even worse, with the amount of military atrocity there, earned the worst possible genocidal name for Pakistan. that was the beginning of a rot to Pakistan's name and image that still hasn't mended.

I'll have to look up current history texts and. May have to do some petitioning

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How pray tell is it a concoction?

Contemporary newspaper accounts from the western media are filled with stories that corroborate what I'm saying. I've posted articles by third party academics. The true "concoction" is this revisionist picture of a totally one sided massacre, completely whitewashing over the fate of the Biharis...history is seldom so black and white.

Then again, I see the appeal of the revisionist story...turning the Biharis into evil bogey men of Punjabi/Mohajir imperialism allows the Bangladeshis to rationalize dumping the survivors in concentration camps for the next 40 years, and it allows Pakistan to feel secure in its callous disregard for a quarter million of its former citizens.

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According to professor Bukbuk of Lalukhet International University the Biharis are actually Bengalis who had migrated to Bihar when the Burmese attacked Bengal. He claims that the Biharis are the real Bengalis and the Bengalis who are now living in Bengal are not real Bengalis. He discussed this topic in his famous autobiography A BhookaNanga in detail...

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Another bad post from you. You keep showing your racism one after other post.

A salute to those biharis who migrated to BD when Pakistan was created and suffered the hardship merely due to their sincerity and love for Pakistan.

There are many bhooka nanga people in the world including those you represent.

I cannot believe you had good sofisticated education or even have anything to do with Pakistan...even remotely.

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I'm a sophisticated person through and through. I was born and raised in a very sophisticated lalukhet and got a very sophisticated education from various sophisticated institutions of lalukhet.

Professor Bukbuk's autobiography A Bhookananga is available at amazon, you can buy and read it yourself.

Here is an excerpt taken from an article of Professor Bukbuk that was published in the Lalukhet Times last Sunday. In this another great artilcle Professor Bukbuk talks about Sindh and he has proved that the majority of Sindhis are not real Sindhis.

*Even in Sindh, most original Sindhis are pushed into India and majority of pre-partition Sindhis are from outside Sindh. Even language Sindhi is partially old Sindhi with full of Arabic and Persian words and script. Real old Sindhi language of Raja Dahir time is as good as Hindi or Gujrati. Since centre of civilization, Indian financial as well as seat of government was in UP and Bihar, most likely these Sindhis must have migrated to these areas in numbers (as India was one country)

[FONT=&quot]As for Muhajirs in Sindh, if they are of Indian origin than you can say that many have come back to their old lands they may have been forced to leave because of continuous invasion of Sindh By Muslims and others from West and North over last many centuries. We should know and understand that most real Sindhis (who are no different than any Indian) are living in India and not Pakistan. They are not pushed by post-partition Indian Muhajirs (many of whom are old Sindhis anyhow) but pushed by continuous invasion of Sindh by Bhookay Nangay people from North and West. Thus, we can find millions of Sindhis living in India and have claim over Sindh. (Same can be said about claim of Indians regarding all of Pakistan). *

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manobl I don’t think u can’t remember that.3million people were killed in 1971 do you think it’s a joke??
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This figure of 3,000,000 seems to be grossly exaggerated. It is hard to believe that 35,000 or 40,000 soldiers can kill 3,000,000 people within 10 months-which means 300,000 each month and 11,000 each day, even if they did nothing else but only killed Bengalis during the all those 10 months.