Will i be doing the right thing by breaking up with him?

We’ve been good friends for almost 4 and a half years now,and pretty much want/wanted to get married.

He is a doctor,in his last year of specializing in Pakistan.It’s a long process,needs alot of patience.
During all this I’ve been quiet patient myself too.The salary they get is nothing one can live an easy life on,not until they become complete specialists and have worked in their field for some time afterwards.Hence i wanted him to try with getting registered in a country abroad,along with continuing here , for which i myself am working on.Needs alot of patience again.But in the end,you know all your hard work is worth it.So atleast a predictable financially secure outcome in my case InshaAllah.

He on the other hand for all these years hasn’t tried.Some times says yes he’ll try.Some times says no and that i should just settle here.That would mean my hard work and my parent’s money going down the drain.So sort of dragging me along(now that i realize).Although he was the one who encouraged me on taking that path in the first place.

We are mentally compatible,he’s a nice guy.Everyone has flaws,i understand.And i try getting along.I’m not all that perfect either.I can be myself with him.

His family: From a small town.They’re all doctors too but i think it’s more like earn and support yourself system.So maybe him not willing to do what I’ve suggested is more based on him not able to afford it.Understandable.He doesn’t ever say that he can not afford it etc etc

Mother and rest of family mainly quiet simple people in their living.Haven’t really interacted with them,only when they came with the proposal and my parents rejected it on basis of him not being settled and them being small town people,probably thinking how i’ll fit in their lifestyle.My parents didn’t know about me liking the guy,it was apparently meant to be an arranged thing.I wanted an arranged thing,because my parents don’t approve of all that other ‘crap’.

My family:They are the no non-sense people.They have been after me with the getting married soon thing.That’s another story.But in short,I’ve been delaying it all for him,until he gets done with specialization.So that my folks can then over look other factors that made them reject the proposal in the first place and accept it happily.I was maybe thinking on balancing out on keeping parents happy and at the same time keeping my thing with him too.Nothing better than an arranged thing in my parents’ eyes.eh?

I have rejected tonns of proposals,what better reason than me being busy with my exams and stuff.But major reason,buying him more time.

So my family is not happy with me that sense now either.“I’m getting old and won’t get more proposals now”.I’ve been lucky with getting many proposals,still get one every now and then.

I am a quiet person, i don’t know how to speak up to my parents.Maybe that’s the way we’ve been brought up.To top it all,loads of family issues going on every now and then.I’m tired.i want to relax now.Have my own life.I’m also tired of trying to keep them all happy so that they won’t bring up my shaddi issue every now and then.Thanks to my Mr-Perfect.

And never have i had the courage to tell my parents or even a sister/brother of mine that,hey i want to get married to a doc who isn’t earning.
So yes,i deserve the getting tired part.They’ll look at me like i’m an alien then.

Mother wants a Doctor settled abroad, financial security etc,like majority of them mothers want.Just like my elder siblings and their husband/wives.Won’t be hard for them finding a rishta once i approve.

So thing is,now my parents are facing major issues between themselves.Mother wants me married off soon.Lets say,I’m a major cause of tension for her too.

My Mr-lazy, did send the proposal 2 years ago,with out doing any proper home work.I’m particular about planning out and organizing things.
Anyhow,that didn’t work out.Guess we did the ‘lets take a chance thing and atleast get engaged’.

I haven’t spoken to him for a month,taking a break to clear up my mind.Probably snap out of the spell.
Should i just ask my mother to find me a desirable rishta and get over with this burden,or keep waiting for i don’t know how much longer for him!
Why not opt for an easier life.

All this waiting has just made things so lame. Now he says if you’re in a hurry.ok get married then.It’s only when i nagg him to his nerves that he says that.I don’t nag too much,only when i have to upset my whole family over and over again for him.

If i tell parents i like this guy,no assurance that they’ll get me married to him.Rejecting proposals wasn’t an easy job for me.I am a very flexible and an adaptable person,i know i’ll adapt to anyone else too.See I’ve even started mentally preparing myself for a breakup.But I just don’t want to hurt him either.It’ll take a long time to get him out of my mind.Just that, he is not giving our relation the desired input that it requires at this stage.Not assuring me that things will work out.But says he wants to be with me.

So dear guppies,what should i be doing next?

Sorry for the very long post and seeming like a very very intensely confused person.

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I believe your emotions are making this much more complicated that it really is. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you wanting to re-locate in order to be more financially secure. There is nothing wrong with wanting a comfortable/"easy" life not only for yourself....but also for you future children. Looking at the rate of desis immigrating abroad, clearly countless others feel the same way and act upon their beliefs. Now all this being said.....

1) Are you and your parents absolutely 100% set on your settling abroad in the future?

2) You claim you two are compatible. If this guy has known how hard you have been working towards this goal, and if he knows how much money your parents are spending in order for you to reach this goal....then why hasn't HE been working on it? It's been over 4 YEARS! Here you are planning your future aboard and he plans on staying back (going by his actions). So where is the compatibility between the two of you if you can't even work together to reach a big goal like this?

3) Just how much are you willing to sacrifice for this guy? Are you willing to give up all your hard work and settle where you are now for the rest of your life? If he hasn't put an effort in settling abroad in the last 4 years.....he certainly isn't going to change now.

You two aren't teenagers where it's all about empty promises and how much he wants to be with you. As adults ready to take on the responsibility of marriage....you need a man who has the same goals as you and is willing to work hard to reach those goals. Forget this words.....going by his actions....is this a man you truly believe you can depend on to fulfill his promises?

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Thanks for pointing out the important things Paheli, I need a major wakeup call.
Yes my family is in the process of settling abroad.Half of them here,half there.

I guess that's the only main issue i'm facing with him,we had earlier mutual plans,he was the one actually pushing me forward to taking my path.And during all this time,he eventually changed his plans i suppose,thinking i'll probably mould up to his then.So yes,compatibility in the little things,and ultimately not in the 'big goal'.

Yes i feel there isn't much of input from his end now.

And now at this age/time, he won't jump to a new plan,true.If it were 5 years before,probably yes.
His words,probably made me keep on going along,
and not his actions, so that's where it all creates the confusion for me.

One year left till he is a full specialist, another year or two of waiting.
Sigh.

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OP, What area is he and you specializing? agree that one cant make enough in Pakistan if he/she is just an MBBS but specialists make really good. so when you say that if you don't move abroad that means your parents money go down the drain then i don't understand this. but if you still feel this way and you have your priorities set i.e. moving abroad and want a life partner who is settled or wiling to settled abroad with you then i think you should bid a farewell to your current relationship with this guy and move on. the more you linger on the more the break up would seem tough.
i don't see that this guy's priorities are same as yours when it comes to career, lifestyle etc. i feel he is among the sort who wants to stay back to their home land and serve their own homeland and make a living out of it only instead of migrating to other countries for lavish incomes.
neither he is wrong in thinking this way nor are you in wanting a good, comfortable lifestyle. its a matter of difference in opinion and mind set and i don't see it working until one of you opts to make a compromise here.

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Thankyou for your views Gudiaali!
yes, it does mean more of compromise on my part then.Because he has ultimately opted for staying back here.Initially we started off together on plan of going abroad.He got his training in Pakistan then,but he still said he'll be trying for abroad too. I on the other hand, am almost registered to practice abroad.Parents have spent quiet alot of money on this whole process of mine.So if i backout now and plan to stay in Pakistan, then all their money goes to waste,plus my hard work too and will probably not please them much either.

Lingering on ain't doing me no good.True.

Will i be doing the right thing by breaking up with him?

My advice would be go forward in life, youl feel much better and relaxed! If its meant to be itl happen but i wouldnt give up all the hard work for someone who isnt showing much of an commitment

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:konfused: Another year or two of waiting for what? Wasting more time on a man who doesn’t have the same future goals as you? Allowing yourself to get a little more older so other rishta prospects get a little harder to find?

P.S. One thing I’ve learned is life is that words are worthless if they’re not back up by actions. And this goes for ANYONE in life…not just a guy. So don’t allow yourself to be confused. Focus on his ACTIONS. That’s the indicator of his true intentions.

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You may never get him out of your mind. Choosing the easier way out is OK. Chickening out is OK. Preferences change and if you don't want to marry him anymore, it is understandable. Not everyone can stand up to what they want.

You may go ahead marry someone nice, or even better. Start a new life and have a family. But there is will be times many years from now, when you will have silent moments and you will think of him wondering how and where he is.

But that is again OK. Because this is what life is.

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@Paheli: 1 or 2 years of waiting till he gets a job as a specialist and starts earning.

@ShahreyarKhan: What you said just made me feel that i'll be taking a selfish step breaking up.I'v been self less for the past 5 years,maybe that's what lead to him not standing by to our initial mutual plan stand.But life is all about compromising.This would be a big compromise from my end.This cycle of compromising won't end there.

I've seen my mother compromise all her life.She has not been a happy woman.
So all these tiny things in mind want me to just back off now,opt for (God willing) an easier way out.Like Paheli said,yes I'm getting old now.Does he not realize that!

Maybe i just need a reason to not marry him now,For example (on a lighter note):

In all these 4 /5 years,I haven't had a proper gift/surprise from him,He can't afford to do so.He's paying his rent and food with his salary.Never have i complained.Ladies!!Is that ok?

But Emotional support ,yes,very much of it.
Words or actions in this case?

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I think you should move on. I understand its hard to let go when you've have an emotional compatibility but from reading all your posts it sounds more like you'e making excuses for him to yourself to justify why you don't want to leave him.

I think you should move abroad and consider some rishtas that are coming your way. IA Allah swt will guide you but I would not waste another year or two on someone who has not shown you any solid action backing up the emotional stuff. I agree with someone who said earlier that words mean nothing when they aren't backed up with actions. You both are not on the same page about the future and may never be. Its not worth upsetting your family over, especially when they are already going through a tough time due to other things.

When a guy wants to make things work...he will do anything in his power despite whatever circumstances to make it happen. Everything else is just a small detail. But when a guy is making excuses for things then he will do so for everything. Us girls have a harder time differentiating between those and being the ones to take the step to move on because we're always holding out hope that something will change. It takes a lot of guts to finally realize that nothing will change and that you have to be the one to make the change and leave the situation. IA wish you the best!

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And what about moving abroad? By his actions he has shown that he wasn't to be settle there and NOT move away....are YOU ok with that? In fact, once he gets a job there and starts earning....the more reason in HIS mind for him not to move.

1) I'm happy to see that you already realize that compromising with him doesn't mean YOU will be happy in the long run. In addition to the possibilities mentioned by the other poster.....here is another possibility: You let go of this man and find another good rishta through your parents. Find a husband who is approved by your family, is settle aboard etc. He loves/respects you and you get most everything you ever wanted.....settling abroad with a great husband....no arguments ever with your family regarding your choices etc. And years from now you think about this current man....and you think to yourself "What the heck was I thinking! Thank GOD I didn't marry him!"

2) Forget the lack of "gifts/surprises". My husband isn't good at those things either but that doesn't mean he doesn't love me. You said you wanted a reason to end this? I'll give you a reason: This man doesn't respect you as his partner. He knows you want to move aboard. He clearly doesn't. Instead if DISCUSSING this with you so that you two can mutually agree to a solution.....he is being a coward and basically letting you know by his actions that it's either his way or the highway (ie. you can choose to give up your dreams OR find another man). He has made up his mind without talking to you.

So what makes you think he'll ask for your opinions or discuss anything with you AFTER marriage? Do you think he's showing any respect for you or this relationship by his actions?

P.S. There is no shame is taking the "easy way out". You don't get any extra reward or prize for making life/marriage more difficult for yourself. In fact, I can make an argument that staying with this man and marrying him is taking the "easy way out" b/c it would be harder for you to walk away and stand up for your dream of having a more financially secure/stable life aboard (btw, I might add this is something your parents also have worked hard for you to achieve).

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Aras,thankyou so much!
I was hoping for some Reality Dose from where ever i can get some.Took me quiet long to realize that nothing will change.
I always thought i'd be a one-man-woman, letting go and finding another person seems somehow awful.
Hope i'll be able to cope up IA!
Thanks again!

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So are you not wanting to marry him because he can't provide you with the lifestyle you're accustomed to (your family's better off than his) and because he won't support you in living/moving abroad?

Or is it because he's not ready for marriage and you are and you've invested too much time in someone who won't make a commitment to you?

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Move on please - it is what it is. People don't change and its foolish to hope they will.

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@paheli: Totally agree with what you're saying Paheli .And just hoping things work out well for me.
Thankyou for your input!

Someone else giving you their unbiased opinion really helps out alot.

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I have been through this !! and still here.. IF IF you have LOADS of patience and are a practical person who values a person's attitude and nature more than his financial status and are willing to contribute in making your life WITH him without any regrets AND are fully aware about how things are difficult for a beginner doctor in Pakistan,you can take a step forward and talk to you parents directly and assure you are responsible for whatever happens. THIS IS NOT EASY and you never know he wants to go back to his small city once he's done with specializing and you can imagine the lifestyle there better.

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Yes, this is selfish. And at many other times you will need to be selfish. But, as I said, it is OK.

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Sehrysh: Because i've invested too much time,energy with him in hope that he'll be doing what we planned on doing in the first place.Gave him too much space i guess.He is going through a tough phase i understand,but I realize now that he'll do what he wants to do.Meaning more compromise from my end.

Yes,i'm ready to get married,since quiet a long time now.My family wants a settled guy,he won't be earning much till 2 years atleast.

This isn't really complicated,But i think i'm just so drained out now.With working my *** off too,not easy being a doctor.
Maybe i was too dumb initially to not realize it won't work out.He pushed me onto taking the path i am on now.And said.."hey you go,ill be joining you soon"!And i went on.Look back,him still waving back happily,but from a road that goes somewhere else.

I'm ok with adapting to his family's lifestyle,that isn't a major issue really.I'm a flexible person.

So I guess,i want to backout now.

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Then back out. You have the right to change your mind (just as he could do the same with you). If you expect your life to go in a particular direction and he's not willing to share that path with you and you don't want to compromise (and you shouldn't be the only one making compromises in a relationship) - then end things. There is no point in dragging out a relationship that's making you unhappy.

The truth is each of us knows what is in our own hearts and what compromises and for whom we're willing to make them - know your heart and move on without any regrets.

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Patience!Loads,yes! i'm already losing it.Thinking it'll take so much longer.
Who doesn't want to be a housewife!?(i do!) But I am doing what i am, for us.So that together we will be financially stable.If i stay here,more hard work for me.
Rest of the story i'm sure you know how it goes for beginner doctors in Pakistan!Sigh!
I wonder how you've managed,MA!