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I mean, even I don't believe Dr.Manmohan Singh has that much guts to be so blatantly needling China. Frankly I think he has gone a weebit overboard in reaction to major hustling by the opposition, but only a wee bit.
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no, manmohan singh ki khud tou itni himat nahi hae. America ki support kay saae talay abhi india akaar dikha raha hae lol laikin jis din america gaya na Afghanistan say us din saari hawa nikal jae gi india ki bhi.
Sorry, I used the wrong word. Instead of saying indian presence has been proven, I should have said indian presence has been strongly reasoned.
With the indians on one side and the americans on another, how are these so called "Islamic fundamentalist", getting weapons, possesing the latest technology, are so organized, are so resourceful, etc. etc.??? Where are they getting their fundings from? (surely the Pakistanis would not fund them to destroy their own country). Where are they getting their trainings from? (Surely the Pakistani army would not train them to destroy the army's own country).
india has always been obssessed with Pakistan and always will be (one proof is you guys being on a Pakistani forum, antagonizing Pakistan).
The only logical support group of these terrorists could hence be india and 2 other specific nations that do not want Pakistan to exist.
Btw, do you remember that a few years ago soniya gandhi had said publicly that we will destroy Pakistan by the year 2010?? (which Insha'Allah will never happen) (now please do not tell me that this is not true or that I am making this up... go search it yourself)
you should really get back to selling subzi if yo don't know the difference between proof and concocted reason.
Rest of your angst ridden post is simply nagated. The resources, training and motivation to your terror groups come from your own institutional support and in some cases from Saudi Arabia. If I have to tell you that you must really be in a stupor
don’t be an idiot. your friend subziwali admitted she used the word ‘proof’ by mistake. 
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**Krishna, Yang decide to step up dialogue **
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China did not raise the issue of Dalai Lama visiting Arunachal Pradesh next month but complained about India’s move to cancel business visas and convert them to employment visas during a 90-minute meeting between Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna and his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi here on Tuesday.
On the complaint about the cancellation of business visas that has affected many of its workers, India explained that it was a uniform policy being applied to all foreign nationals. “There was no change in the visa regime. Only the misuse of the business visa was stopped. Visas henceforth would be uniform employment visas,” Mr. Yang was told by his Indian interlocutors.
China condemned the Mumbai attacks and the repeat bombing of the Indian embassy in Kabul after India gave a detailed briefing and “exposed” the masterminds, said highly placed sources. China also said such killing of innocent civilians “also affected them.”
Both sides also dwelt on trade issues and explored ideas to step up its volume in a manner that addressed Indian concerns about the massive imbalance.
**To improve communication **
India and China also resolved to step up communication to avoid differences that had recently cropped up over disputed areas and the proposed visit of Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh. No official word was available about the meeting between Mr. Krishna and Mr. Yang barring a brief statement read out by the former. The reason why the meeting took up so much of time was because Mr. Yang’s observations in Chinese had to be translated into English.
The two leaders decided to step up dialogue to build trust at several levels including more frequent high-level exchanges, media, cultural and people-to-people interaction and even more defence exchanges.
Mr. Krishna described the meeting as “warm” and the exchange of views on “all aspects” of bilateral relations “fruitful.”
The Foreign Ministers welcomed the positive outcome of the meeting between the two Prime Ministers last weekend and discussed measures to improve relations including celebrating the 60th anniversary of establishment of diplomatic ties between the two countries in a “befitting manner.” Mr. Krishna accepted Mr. Yang’s invitation to visit China next year and the date will be worked out.
“I am satisfied with my talks with the Chinese Foreign Minister. We both see this as part of the process to build trust and understanding at the political level,” he said.
Re: Will China allow india?
LMAO!!
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you should really get back to selling subzi if yo don't know the difference between proof and concocted reason.
Rest of your angst ridden post is simply nagated. The resources, training and motivation to your terror groups come from your own institutional support and in some cases from Saudi Arabia. If I have to tell you that you must really be in a stupor
lol hey let us not get into personal insults here, I am talking to you about politics so you should stick to that. I made a mistake and I took the blame for it, and anyway do not just zoom in on one mistake of mine, talk about the rest of my post too if you really want to debate.
Tell me what "institutional support" would that be? And how would it benefit from its country's own destruction? And how would Saudi Arab benefit?
Let me make it clear to you that I do not believe these terrorists are muslims and neither are they associated with any Islamic movement. I say this because Islam simply does not allow suicide neither does it allow the killing of innocents (and it does not matter which sect of Islam one belongs to, all the muslims have to follow these principles because they are guidelined in the Quran and the hadiths). The question now remains of their true purpose then, and the only other explanation is that they want Pakistan destroyed and they want to give Islam a bad name by showing themselves to be muslims.
Re: Will China allow india?
Why is this silly thread in this forum?
So guys, do you think China will allow india to send Dalai Lama to Arunachal?
I think no, China being a very powerful country and having huge influence in the world will be very angry if india let Dalai go to Arunachal Therefore india will oblige and not send Dalai Lama there.
What is your opinion about that?
who the heck is China to stop Indian's from doing something in their own land.. even if it is disputed ?
lol hey let us not get into personal insults here, I am talking to you about politics so you should stick to that. I made a mistake and I took the blame for it, and anyway do not just zoom in on one mistake of mine, talk about the rest of my post too if you really want to debate.
Tell me what "institutional support" would that be? And how would it benefit from its country's own destruction? And how would Saudi Arab benefit? Let me make it clear to you that I do not believe these terrorists are muslims and neither are they associated with any Islamic movement. I say this because Islam simply does not allow suicide neither does it allow the killing of innocents (and it does not matter which sect of Islam one belongs to, all the muslims have to follow these principles because they are guidelined in the Quran and the hadiths). The question now remains of their true purpose then, and the only other explanation is that they want Pakistan destroyed and they want to give Islam a bad name by showing themselves to be muslims.
Sorry if you took it personally - selling subzi is a noble profession and I am thankful you showed a sense of humor and did not retaliate.Now:
There are well substantiated accounts of ISI providing funds and training to LeT until recent times. Even at present, while at government level they say they don't there is significant reason to believe that some elements within ISI are holding on to past relationshsips and clandestine support cannot therefore be ruled out.
Saudi Arabia - I don't think they send money to conduct terrorisml; they send it to promote certain flavor of religious doctrine which I believe is getting directed to terrorist doctrine
Ofcourse these terrorists cannot be considered muslims; but we cannot overlook the fact that they believe they are muslim and do these heinous acts in the name of their version of Islam.
My stance therefore is that whether your primary interest is Pakistan or Islam or both, it is important to root out such terrorism. And the first step in rooting out any problem is a true recognition and acknowledgement of root cause, regardless of how unpleasant it may be. Blaming Indians and Americans and everyone else except factors internal to Pakistan is IMO wanton denial taht has gone on long enough...you're witnessing the results!
Just touch your heart and ask yourself - did you ever imagine such daily bombings and massacre inside Pakistan? even as late as last year? NO. Nobody would believe that it was possible. Everybody swept the tell-tale signs under the rug. Please don't continue doing that.