App Bole bina reh thori na sakte hain 
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^ niki is absolutely right. thanks niksik you saved me from typing all that 
in hinduism remamber the Sathi tradition. the widow has to die with her hubby. to get some more knowledge on how a widow is treated in hinduism, watch movie WATER. ( i think the movie name was water. correct me if i am wrong.)
Be moqa and be mahal baat kerna is my forte’
FT, the sati tradition is practiced in only some areas such as interior Rajisthan…and some other places, and has been banned by the government 
and so has dowry etc…but it still exists. It’s really sad. However offshoots of such cruelty have been transferred to other religions via culture and for some reason, most people are so influenced by culture and not the purity of our religion. I don’t think any religion says burn the widow or throw stones at the widow or treat her badly…but our society has down that.
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^ govt has banned it now from some yrs may be but as the tradition had been there since unknown number of years, made widows position in society very weak, kind of a disgrace and nahooosat forever. These are the vices which spread along from generation to generation and tribes to tribes. we also brought our share from there 
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It's hard to believe that educated people should make such comments, but supersitious beliefs can transcend education. In the youtube video about black magic posted in the All Views forum not too long ago.....it was interesting to hear that it's the wealthy (not the poor) who are more likely to seek black magic as a way to resolve their problems.
Apart from this notion about widows being inauscpicious for a bride.......some people also believe that it's unlucky for a spinster to attend a wedding.....that her spinsterhood...will somehow mar the bride and her future in some way.
When people resort to believing supersitions....it's like they've omitted Allah from the equation. And they don't realize that the fate/condition of the person that they're ostracizing could just as easily be theirs one day.
Its a man’s world, indeed! 
again, i agree with everything, niksik, FT and reddi.
The same families think its a bad thing to watch bolly movies, hindu culture etc… and then there’s these stupid rasmo rewaaj that they have adapted into their own lives despite being muslims…
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Fairy tale i think its as much in India as in pakistan. People don't treat the widows and divorced ladies with as much respect in both the countries. To say it is just an indian thing is not really fair because I have seen mistreatment of women in both societies and cultures.
Its not a man’s or women’s world. It just depends on the kind of people you haev around you. If you socialize yourself more with educated and open minded people you will less and less of this kind of stupid behaviour. Sadly, you can’t really cut off your relatives who are paind minded (for the lack of a better word) and these kind of things do happen. Our job is to correct these things whenever we see them happen instead of just lettin them slip.
Its a man's world,.
har achchi baat ke baad aameen keh liya karo
@ ali: yes and thats what my mom and khaala tried to do… they were like “dont be stupid, come on the stage now” etc … but the ladies were like so certain .. 
TLk dada 
ima report u to ur ammi!
Yet 99% of this crap comes for women. Men normally have no clue about all these things until they get married themselves…
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i kno huma what you are saying ... but alot of the time we see these things and say oh its bad and don't bother doing anything about it ... and thats where the problem starts
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See this is the reason I blame previous generations for adopting stuff from Hindu culture without realizing how dumb it is . Now they are transferring same dumbness to us , and want us to adopt them in the name of ''culture'' . It is our duty as future of Pakistani culture and society to break these evil norms and adopt some Islamic values . Just don't follow our forefathers blindly .
Nami for prejidant!
I agree. I refuse to follow such stupid rasams. I can imagine myself on my wedding day, pull my lehenga sleeves up and sort this kinda crap out then and there!
@ DC: you’d be surprised!
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^ No lehnga on shaadi either . Simple shalwar Kameez is enough 
:k:
No mehndi, no functions, go to mosque, do the nikkah …throw a reasonable valima… Money saved=Money earned, give 25% of saved money to poor and needey and rest if your to enjoy honey-moon!
:( get rid of the wedding section so !
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one of my relatives had a miscarriage, and another pregnant cousin was not allowed to visit and see the other woman.
how ridiculous.
Allah SWT gives us these things, and only He can take it back.
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i don't kno about that nami bro ... i think i'll let the grl decide ... after all its her shadi too