I know X2.
i just wanted to state the obvious :)
ahan...are u claiming that u spend ur time at righteous get-togethers?
Aur nahin to kia. Always.
There is no right or wrong in the equation.
You do things what you think are important to you and I do things which I know are important to me.
No argument there I believe.
There's always a right and always a wrong... there are some areas of grey but this is not one of them. I dont mean to argue either, perhaps discuss?
Women exposing more then whats Islamically allowed is wrong. Men repeatedly looking at women is Islamically wrong too. The opportunity for these two to foster is hence wrong. Of course the choise is ours at the end of the day, but that doesn't change whats wrong/ right.
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my family has a big eid party and we have men on one side and women on the other but there is to actual partition.... i think its easier cuz u can talk to who u want and those u dont want dont have 2
Men repeatedly looking at women is Islamically wrong too. .
yeh kya museebat hai...lookign repeatedly is wrong..fine, but then if i try to look just once I get called a tarrooo and told that staring is wrong.
There's always a right and always a wrong... there are some areas of grey but this is not one of them. I dont mean to argue either, perhaps discuss?
Women exposing more then whats Islamically allowed is wrong. Men repeatedly looking at women is Islamically wrong too. The opportunity for these two to foster is hence wrong. Of course the choise is ours at the end of the day, but that doesn't change whats wrong/ right.
In Pakistani weddings I have never seen a woman in bikini or even a skirt for that matter. As you said the choice is ours, you may become hard liner or enjoy the small pleasure of company of your nears and dears.
BTW everything depends on the intentions, the men who like to ogle women or vice versa can do that everywhere and in any kind of dress its not restricted to wedding parties only.
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^ for the first time i agree with u.
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^Nawazish.
In Pakistani weddings I have never seen a woman in bikini or even a skirt for that matter. As you said the choice is ours, you may become hard liner or enjoy the small pleasure of company of your nears and dears.
BTW everything depends on the intentions, the men who like to ogle women or vice versa can do that everywhere and in any kind of dress its not restricted to wedding parties only.
A Muslim women doesn't need to be scantly dressed for it to be inappropriate (Islamically speaking)... attractive shalwar qamiz, makeup & perfume aren't really allowed either infront of na-mahrams (as it is clearly stated in the Quran).
If following the Quran means that one is a hardliner, then so be it... at least those that chose to do so have a good "intention".
and just coz someone does xyz outside the party arrangements then thats their choice, it doesn't mean the host is obliged to cater to their ways of living at the function too.
and just coz someone does xyz outside the party arrangements then thats their choice, it doesn't mean the host is obliged to cater to their ways of living at the function too.
And whoever asked for this kind of catering. Its the choice of the host what kind of arangement he want to provide, and its the choice of the invitee wether to attend or not if it confirms to his way of living/liking. Its very simple, really.
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^ ji bilkul... ainda aggar koi segregation rakh ta hai kyouN ke unn ke mutaabiq yehi sahi raasta hai tou aap phir mind nahi kijye ga :)
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Mein nay pahlay bhi mind nahin kia kabhi, na thread mein na real world mein. I simply ignore this kind of gatherings.
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My mehndi is going to be mixed. My oldest brother is what some would call a ‘mullah’. I told him he’s invited but should in no way feel obligated to attend.
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yaar to qareebi masjid chalay jaao, ISNA/ICNA Annual function mai chalay jaao 
, waisay bhi ab Ramzaan aa rahay hayn, taraweeh mai bohot time hota hai
the mullah folks FORCE (thats right)...force a partition.
It is not the Mullah folks who force the partition . It the host of the ceremony who chose to keep men and women segregated. Now it is your choice to boycott that wedding. It is this simple.
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A passing thought.
Especially in the US here. The more I think about it, the more I get pissed. Whats the point of partition? I think this culture of keeping away the sexes really illustrates the hardships youth have, when it comes to marriage and stuff. If anything, weddings should be a place where you can get to meet/find/see potentials in a civil manner.
Disscuss. Why or why not are you against it.
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Alot of girls wear hijab and like attending weddings that have a partition so that they can dress up. So maybe the partition is less fun for some guys, but its also more fun for some girls!
There's always a right and always a wrong... there are some areas of grey but this is not one of them. I dont mean to argue either, perhaps discuss?
Women exposing more then whats Islamically allowed is wrong. Men repeatedly looking at women is Islamically wrong too. The opportunity for these two to foster is hence wrong. Of course the choise is ours at the end of the day, but that doesn't change whats wrong/ right.
You'd rather risk a generation to go and date/marry non muslims then what YOU think is wrong or right? Its not a choice, when you are overseas...its a necessity to have mixed gatherings.
You are assuming everyone wants to bang everyone, which makes you a sick sick person. Why would you think like that? You are watching too many indian movies...which is also unislamic.
It is not the Mullah folks who force the partition . It the host of the ceremony who chose to keep men and women segregated. Now it is your choice to boycott that wedding. It is this simple.
You haven't been to many weddings. Mullahs don't show up if the thing is no segregated. This just happened last week.
I am just saying, that weddings are a very good place for spotting a potential from you OWN LOCAL COMMUNITY. Better then a once a year conference, better then once a year month of ramzan, better then anything.
You haven't been to many weddings. Mullahs don't show up if the thing is no segregated. This just happened last week.
There are many Mullah who do not care to impose segregation so one should look for those kind of Mullahs , also people think that Mullah is needed for Nikah , no he is not . Anybody can get the form for Nikah fill it and get the nikha registered.
The following is the minimum requirement in Sunni sect:
Nikah is performed with a proposal (Iejaab) by the male or female and acceptance (Qubool) by the male or female in the past tense and in the presence of two male Muslim witnesses.
It is Sunnat that the marriage be announced and performed in the Masjid and the bride be represented by her Mahram (Unmarriageable relative like father, brother, etc.). The bride gives consent to her representative (Wakeel) in the presence of two witnesses to perform her marriage at the Masjid. At the Masjid, the Wakeel represents the bride in the presence of the two witnesses and the stipulated dowry. The witnesses must be two trustworthy and pious male Muslims who are not her ascendants e.g. father, grandfather or descendants e.g. son, grandson, etc.
The Mahr is the woman's right and should be stipulated prior to the marriage.