Why SC would disqualify NS from holding public office and would send cases to NAB.

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That is the spirit friend … I am with you. :dannyboy:

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However, dont think for a minute that this is acceptable. PMLN will complete its term, this is the time for us to mature as a Party which is simply invincible. NS is and will always stay the leader for now and for always. Very soon in NA 120 you will see how big SS wins. A NS outside of PM house will be the man with nothing to loose so these b@stards that went to indian jails in 1971, these judges that made mockery of judicial system will see whats coming. In short there is an equal and opposite reaction to every action. We are here and we will see. After 1999, we heard its over and we still won in ever election.

However, it is time to move on from this. Thanks for good chats and apologies for any hard words. In passion for love of the country, the vote that I casted after flying 22 hours last time and respect and love for Nawaz Sharif from the core of my heart can often results in emotional outburst, no harm was ever meant.

Best Regards -

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Bhai, I always think good for you. My sympathy is with you and your feelings. Bus … Haramkhoron kay peechay Pagal na hona. Look after yourself. :slight_smile:

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Though a very big decision but if u read the verdict . Only reason given is Not mentioning the not withdrawn salary of 10k in the assets. No corruption charges placed. So the main allegation of Panama is not used to disqualify him.

If this small reason can disqualify an elected pm . We shud expect a line of member parliaments being disqualified.

It wud have been satisfactoryif court give verdict that money trial is not correct hence he found guilty.

In principle this once done after nab cases proof sharif family guilty n put in jail will be beginning of new era for Pakistan. Hope this happens not like they escape from these cases n become innocent in front of ppl.

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Thank you. Lets try to grow ourselves. We should talk on issues and should not indulge in name callings. This is the education i am taking away from here and hope you agree. The day any haramkhori is actually proven, I will be first one to leave this ship but until than NS lives in my heart and I am standing for him firmly and proudly.

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The army acts upon instructions from the overseas masters and holds the population as captives.

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^^ Well i am resigning from this debate but I do agree. I was an international student in the US in early 2000s, I worked research assistantship, gas stations, laundromats, Tutored students every evening to barely get by for graduate school and built a life. Here I see dozens of international students in very expensive private liberal arts colleges in Indiana / Iowa and Illinois that are sons/daughters of active / retired service officers. Officers with ranks for Lt. Colones and Majors. The way this one institute has consumed Pakistan, I wonder do I even have any standing in Pakistan. This institute has lost every war, most humiliating surrenders, Abbottabad incident, a person hid in hospital instead of facing courts and yet a politician that faced courts, showed every thing about their personal business, asked where is corruption is punished. Not being dramatic but today I am more inclined to renounce my Pakistani citizenship for good. I truly felt proud in political process moving forward, govt changing hands, people punishing politicians through the power of VOTE, a maturity coming but this backdoor attacks push the system backwards. Its now responsibility of PMLN to keep the process moving forward perhaps someday this powerful military will come under full civilian control.

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According to Fargh Salim, the advocate, NS and his family should get bail before arrest from HC as soon as possible otherwise they can be arrested at any time.

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@ Bobby1

Not everything is a conspiracy. NS should have seen this coming in the wake of the Panama leaks. He could have resigned with some dignity intact but he chose to be stubborn.

Some Pakistanis just love conspiracy theories, infact it is their favourite pastime

Agreed justice needs to be seen to be done across the board but buck rightly starts with the PM as he’s the holder of the highest elected office in the land. I would only believe that Pakistan has changed for the better when corrupt military officers (most of whom are also living beyond their means. I call a spade a spade) are also subjected to the same level of scrutiny & investigation as the politicians for their wrongdoings

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To add to your list the horrific rape and slaughter of the Bengali population with not one person charged for war crimes, killings in Balochistan, Sind and NWFP. I am not invested in the politics of that place but this has foreign finger prints all over it. I think the bosses want someone who will use a lot more force against the Haqqani group. The mullahs celebrating with mithai will be soon running for cover. These army officers roam around like royalties on a 300 dollar pay per month, I guess their monies fall from the sky.

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This is where rubber meets that road. Ok NS is punished, his childern are dragged (two of which live outside after EXILE) fine. But now show us this to the sitting Judge who has panama company, ik with offshore companies and illegitimate child, a bhgora living in dubai who didnt even have courage to face courts. If all of this is not done, another Bhutto is born today and this Bhutto is alive and dangerous.

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Mr. Asif, with the Americans so vested in Pakistan, which is only second after Israel, change of power does not take place without their blessing. New Boss in USA wants new management who will perform to achieve goals set out for them. USA leaders had aired their displeasure over lack of action against Haqqani group. The new mandate is to go hard and heavy on terrorists and govts will be toppled to achieve that goal.

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Mukti bahini (indian / bangladeshi ex-army/bdr soldiers etc) also raped and murdered pakistanis and pro-pakistani bengalis. I am not even talking about the skinning of biharis in december 1971 and beyond.

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And compared to Zardari, NS turned out to be a duffer. And I said this soon after his inauguration as PM. Had he chosen to become the president instead of PM in 2013, as party chief, he would have still been able to control the PM and government (cf. Zardari). Above all he would have enjoyed immunity from a past corruption and been spared this humiliation despite the Panama leaks.

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The figures I heard are over half a million rapes more than couple of million murdered. If you read Blood Telegram where the US ambassador protested against the genocide then you might get a better picture. It was one of the biggest atrocities of modern times. Oh and let us not forget the massacre of Palestinians by Gen Zia. Where was the justification for that?

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The number I read was 200,000 rapes though in Bose’s book and other accounts, not many bengali women came forward to terminate pregnancies after the end of the war. Hamoodur Rehman Report had a completely different picture when it was declassified.

We or bengalis / indian never did a thorough investigation unlike holocaust so we are stuck with their word. I think they say that Mujib said 100,000 (dead) in Pakistan, then 1 million in delhi and finally 3 million when he landed in Dhaka. A truth and reconciliation commission should have been set up if either mujib or bhutto were serious about this issue.

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Your argument has merit but NS was not ousted this time because of some outside pressure or the establishment. Let’s stop kidding ourselves. He lost his job because he was caught red-handed because of the leaks. The charges against the family were of money laundering, tax evasion, forgery and lying to the judiciary; too grave by any standards. The army largely stayed neutral during the whole saga. As I said above I would like to see the same yardstick applied to everyone including corrupt bureaucrats and military officials.

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And if one were being brutallly honest there is no one ‘Sadiq’ and ‘Ameen’ in today’s Pakistan; no judge, no politician; no bureaucrat, no military officer, no media person, no police officer or lawyer for sure… the vast majority of the above anyway

Jinnah was definitely Sadiq and Ameen, in fact that whole generation; Liaquat, Sir Syed, Iqbal, Nishtar and so on. Those people were cut from a different cloth!

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Hilarious! Although Al’s from Chicago, nor is he fictional. Altaf bhai needs to netflix the GaaaawdFathur tonight!

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The thing that bothered me is the investigation by army intelligence. When you see army involvement then the whole thing goes suspect. I am sure most senior official in the army are living way beyond their means. Why would the military intelligence not investigate millionaire Generals.