Why Religion?

What will happen if every one starts a blind following of his religion? It is good that majority of people in the world do not take the religious scriptures very seriously, otherwise this world will become a total chaos.

Hindus have a cast system, child marriage, sati etc.
For Judaism all are inferior to Jews.
Islam has left no sincerity for disbelievers, people who do not accept the concept of Islam.

Re: Why Religion?

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**What will happen if every one starts a blind following of his religion?
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Your question is self-explanatory. What do you think is going to happen ? Of course it's not a positive thing but i am VERY certain you knew that already. Sorry but i am trying to understand the purpose behind your thread ? What do you want to discuss ?

he is talking sense, try atheism or agnostism.

Re: Why Religion?

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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
What will happen if every one starts a blind following of his religion? It is good that majority of people in the world do not take the religious scriptures very seriously, otherwise this world will become a total chaos.

Hindus have a cast system, child marriage, sati etc.
For Judaism all are inferior to Jews.
Islam has left no sincerity for disbelievers, people who do not accept the concept of Islam.
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thanks for your post

When we observe the world today, we see that most religions are founded on blind faith ie one just believes in his/her religion blindly without intellectual reasoning and without question (and that is in fact the meaning of faith)

In reality the core problem is not that people dont have a mind to think with, but rather thier religions do not establish a belief based on firm conviction. so the absence of a rational creed is the problem.

however Islam is opposed to blind following of its core concepts ie its creed. It is even opposed to immitating in the creed of people without reasoning.

So when the Muslim believes in a creator, he concludes this by observing the universe around him and knowing for sure that this universe definatley has a cause which brought it into existence.

The same applies for the firm conviction of the Quran being from this creator. briefly speaking, the quran challenged the entire human beings to create the like of the Quran, in order to show, that its originis other than human beings. none until today have beaten this challenge, even those who are most versed in the arabic language.

The other aspects of the belief are also based upon certainty and not suspicion.

I think the mistake people make is that they look at a few religions and find out that they are based on blind acceptance and then they generalise this understanding to Islam.

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he is talking sense, try atheism or agnostism.
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non sense. try studying religions and pick the one you is right and then follow. otherwise make a religion of yourself :p

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**he is talking sense, try atheism or agnostism.
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Thanks but i think i'll stick with what gives me peace - and that's Islam. i suggest if anyone has a problem with someone else's personal choice in religions, then s/he needs to work on their level of tolerance (or lack of).

Re: Why Religion?

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What will happen if every one starts a blind following of his religion? It is good that majority of people in the world do not take the religious scriptures very seriously, otherwise this world will become a total chaos.

Hindus have a cast system, child marriage, sati etc.
For Judaism all are inferior to Jews.
Islam has left no sincerity for disbelievers, people who do not accept the concept of Islam.
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And the point of the thread is?

Re: Why Religion?

That is totally a false statement. :rolleyes:

who are dimmis??

In many villages in India the upper cast do not allow the schedule cast to take water from the same well. These upper cast Hindus follow the holy religious scriptures in totality.

Mr Malikhan, as usual you cannot leave a little chance to praise your religion.
I challenge that Bin Laden & co. are true Muslims and have followed each and all values of Holy Quran and we know the result.

What do you mean by that no one can create something alike Quran? Why one should do it?
Pls tell me why Quran has so much hatred for disbelievers, that is hatred for all non-Muslim world?

And when I say that my religion is better than yours, my hairstyle is better than yours, scope of peace is very dim.

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I challenge that Bin Laden & co. are true Muslims and have followed each and all values of Holy Quran and we know the result....
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Advani, Modi are true Hindus and are following their beliefs. Raja Dahir was also following Hindus when the population was oppressed and ships were being looted.

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Raja Dahir was also following Hindus when the population was oppressed and ships were being looted.
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Yeah yeah we all know, oppressed Sindhis were liberated by arabs....like oppressed afghanis and iraqis got liberated by US.

Yahudi/Soul - aren't you guys trying to convey the same thing which is impose your views on others consistently and somehow trying to prove that being an athiest is better than following any religion.

^ Precisely. It's no different than me trying to ram down someone's throat, my personal belief that Islam is the best religion. Just substitute Islam for atheism or for Hinduism, and you get the same approach.

Too true asif and frankly i am get a bit irritated of same pointless garbage theory. If they could, they wouldn't be much different than people they criticise, forcing down atheism down every one's throat.

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...Islam is the best religion...
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Absolutely :)

A devotee Hindu must follow his religious scriptures and no one should criticize him when he discriminates people of his own land on the basis of origin.

Islam is the best religion.
Changez, Nadia, sweetpie or any one, as a good Muslim, do you believe that disbelievers (all non-Muslims) are deaf and dumb? (I have taken these words from your religious texts.)
What way your religious scriptures ask you to treat the disbelievers?

yahudi,

please dont be so literal.

deaf and dumb is metaphorical, im sure you know that.

and disbelievers are certainly not “all” non-muslims. people of the book who never strayed from the original teachings of their prophets will also be successful.

Here is some ayats I found to support my position

http://www.unionoffaiths.com/article4_2.html

Please do not be so selective in your treatment of Islam. you cite Bin Laden. He is by no means a ‘religious leader’. he is definitely someone who has come to represent Islam, and he does not deserve an iota of that status through his religious credentials.

I used to have a written, signed email from Ayatollah Seestani. I asked him if it was just for the Almighty to run a race with some people blindfolded, to have some people born as muslims, others who have merely heard whispers about Islam, with no reason to doubt their own religion, and yet being consigned to Hell for that? I asked if they would go to Hell because of it. He replied saying that I, or he, had not been asked to decide between heaven and hell, that is Allah’s domain..but we did believe that Allah is Just.

He is one of the foremost scholars in our faith..he does not hasten to dismiss non-muslims to the fire. You, or I, with our summary reading of the Quran, how can you make claims about Islam?

Ask those who know. ask an aalim, a true aalim.

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What way your religious scriptures ask you to treat the disbelievers?
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like a doctor treats his patients.... :)

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*Originally posted by yahudi: *
Islam is the best religion.
Changez, Nadia, sweetpie or any one, as a good Muslim, do you believe that disbelievers (all non-Muslims) are deaf and dumb? (I have taken these words from your religious texts.)
What way your religious scriptures ask you to treat the disbelievers?
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Disbelievers of the Islamic faith are certainly not deaf nor dumb, just led astray. God accepts monotheistic religions (Islam, Christianity, and Judaism) but in my opinion, the only one of the three that makes the most sense is Islam. Whether it's the Koran or Hadiths, every word written in these holy texts has logic behind it. The texts leave barely any questions unanswered.