Why Punjabis Do Not Speak Punjabi With Their Kids

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Re: Why Punjabis Do Not Speak Punjabi With Their Kids

@Promiscuous_Paki

And where did Khari Boli and Braj come from? The early dialects of Punjabi of course..

Archaeologists have found ancient manuscripts of presentday NW Punjabi dialects (Pothwari, Hindko: called Prakrits) in the Kharoshti script in Taxila and surrounding areas, these are the mothers of the later Punjabi dialects (Majhi, Dhoabi etc.) and all the Sanskritic languages (some say Sanskrit came from them others say it was vice versa but that’s a different discussion).

Farsi, Arabic or Turkish ARE NOT the ancestors of Urdu/Hindi/Hindvi/Hindustani rather the local dialect (Khari Boli tc. which is descended from Punjabi) are what Urdu comes from… What the Mughals did was like an ABCD speaking his parents’ tongue with English words, unnaturally inserting a lot of foreign words does not change a languages basic structure or classification..

:lol:

You probably believe Arabic and French also evolved from early Punjabi dialects too then. And I’m sure no actual facts will dissuade you from thinking that way.

Look…no one here is saying Punjabi people shouldnt preserve their unique cultural heritage, or that they should just speak in Urdu or English with their children. Nor is anyone claiming that Punjabi is somehow an inferior language. However, your claims are getting ridiculous. Yes, Punjabi is related to Urdu. Ultimately, so is everything from Memoni to Kashmiri. This does not, however, mean that Urdu evolved from Punjabi. The Sanscrit language gave rise to the Prakit languages, which diverged and gave rise to both Punjabi and the early Hindustani dialects. The languages share common ancestors, but are not descended from one another. Also, just so you know, the Mughals didnt really speak Urdu…the development of the language began well before they arrived in India, and they didnt really play a huge role in its development. If anything, Urdu didnt really begin to become a true literary language till after Mughal authority collapsed, and the Nawabs and Rajas began using it as court language.

Moreover, to deny that Urdu has roots in Persian as well, given the fact that it probably borrows 40-50% of its nouns and adjectives from the language is a little ridiculous. Just like the claim that Urdu, Punjabi, Sindhi, etc are all mutually intelligible. For God’s sake, I’ve heard Lahori Punjabis claim that they can barely understand the Punjabi spoken in the villages, let alone Sindhi.

@Promiscuous_Paki

I know all this is a bit of a blow to “Urdu-speaking” people who are under the illusion that just because one of their foremothers might have been a *kaneez *in a Mughal court they might be Central Asian descent

Haha…you mean kinda like how 75% of the population of Lahore is originally ‘Kashmiri’ because their great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather’s third cousin’s wife’s uncle might have visited Srinagar once?