Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
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Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
No, they will not.
Just wait and see. Ever effort will be made to slice and dice PTI in the next five year, and with Zaradari already driving PPPP to its doom, it will be PML-N again and again and maybe even again. You don’t know these turds like I do, for them money buys almost everything, and well they had 65 percent of Pakistan earlier, now they have even more.
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It's an open truth believe it or not.
Punjab and sindh are main players to chose a leader on Alaqai level. Bhutto chane it's once but he was big stake holder to divide east and west ( DNA some how remain ) Karachi sees this drama for long time and finnaly chose locals according the Pak politics. Baluchistan contiously facing the problems being a small in population and getting tired and frustrating on peak! KPK chose a khan this time. But still there are hopes! In next five years IK need to cover his mistakes he must change him self if he want a national hero in poltics and his main weakness is his:: Be soche samjhe:: which is very very minus being a national politician.
Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
Main reasons
Ik and PTI didn't address the poor and lower classes
It seems still a burger party ,
Bashing others is still the only tool of PTI . Bashing have negative impacts too.
Lota game spoiled the original message of PTI . Like the first Lahore Jalsa , presentation of MIan Azhar before public as great achievement of PTI was a big foolish attempt . Establishment supported PTI for some time and used their old tactics for throwing some electable to PTI was much open to every one and it also gave a much negative impact as timing was not good .
PPP campaign and statements of Rehman Malik only against N$ gave a more negative impact on PPP and PTI both . It transpired to people of Punjab that it is a conspiracy of the both against N$ .
Other reason already narrated in other posts of this thread
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Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
They havent been disillusioned by the PML to the extent that they would vote for anyone else. They got a taste the last time over, but it will have to be an entire term of bad governance before people decide to ditch them like they have the PPP. Wait 5 years, and if they dont perform, out they go. I think it will be PTI on the next go.
I agree we need whole term of bad governance like PPP has caused it's decline.
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The main excuses that I heard from PMLN supporters,
1) they have never been allowed to complete their term
2) PPP and PTI are conspiring against them, IKs statements against PMLN did not resonate amongst the people
3) loadshedding is being done by federal government to punish punjab. The people would find the farce in this as the load shedding cannot be controlled in the short term.
4) inflation, which I think would remain the same or increase
there was some rigging at local level as well. For example it's confusing for me to digest the results of south punjab although as areas were PPPs strongholds and the stance of PMLN (regarding seraiki province) did not resonate well among the people.
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PTI may not have won many seats from Punjab but large swathes of urban voters still voted for them even in constituencies where they lost
PTI supporters need to be patient. A third force has surely emerged in this election
Listen to Hassan Nisar
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Don't quote these media men , They work for money only
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PPP has won one national assembly seat from punjab (seraiki areas to be precise), and the winner is the brother of the governor. Am I missing something?
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Better you start a thread about failure of PPP in election 2013 .
It could be discussed there in a better way .
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NQ-122 Lahore…
PTI and MQM votes are equal… people should respect the mandate!
Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
- PTI acted immaturely and they were really aggressive e.g. Mocking people because they supported other parties. 2. It may be only me but I have never seen Imran Khan bashing PPP and PPP bashing PTI which is kind of fishy. 3. The language by Imran Khan was inappropriate at sometimes like how did he even thought that he had a chance against Nawaz Sharif (politest guy in Pakistan politics) with that kind of language. 4. Mian Shahbaz had done quite a lot of work in Punjab. I don't think there was a project in any other province that could match the size of metro project and he was mocked by PTI for distributing Laptops(don't know the story behind that), Really?. 5. A large number of politicians changed their parties so same guys different party. 6. Nawaz Sharif is known for doing good stuff for the industries(Policies). 7. Little to none political experience of PTI representatives. 8. (Unsure) Religion maybe involved as a lot of girls were shown wearing jeans which was sort of unacceptable for people. 9. PML-N is a much bigger party than PTI. 10. They should have focused on all the different classes and groups. PTI should be proud of what they have achieved in these elections. Let's see how PTI takes our KHP and i am pretty sure there is a race between them which is good for awam of both provinces:D. I support and love both parties which is wired.
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Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
- PTI acted immaturely and they were really aggressive e.g. Mocking people because they supported other parties. 2. It may be only me but I have never seen Imran Khan bashing PPP and PPP bashing PTI which is kind of fishy. 3. The language by Imran Khan was inappropriate at sometimes like how did he even thought that he had a chance against Nawaz Sharif (politest guy in Pakistan politics) with that kind of language. 4. Mian Shahbaz had done quite a lot of work in Punjab. I don't think there was a project in any other province that could match the size of metro project and he was mocked by PTI for distributing Laptops(don't know the story behind that), Really?. 5. A large number of politicians changed their parties so same guys different party. 6. Nawaz Sharif is known for doing good stuff for the industries(Policies). 7. Little to none political experience of PTI representatives. 8. (Unsure) Religion maybe involved as a lot of girls were shown wearing jeans which was sort of unacceptable for people. 9. PML-N is a much bigger party than PTI. PTI should be proud of what they have achieved in these elections. Let's see how PTI takes our KHP and i am pretty sure there is a race between them which is good for awam of both provinces:D. I support and love both parties which is wired.
let me answer you:
It may be only me but I have never seen Imran Khan bashing PPP and PPP bashing PTI which is kind of fishy
ans:Imran clearly mentioned k mei zardari se half nhi loun ga, he said Nawaz sharif n zardari nemuk muka kiya hua, phle ek ata hai, phr dosra, aur phr friendly opposition
The language by Imran Khan was inappropriate at sometimes like how did he even thought that he had a chance against Nawaz Sharif (politest guy in Pakistan politics) with that kind of language.
ans:Nawaz sharif ne bhi kaha, madari, anari, chok pe ulta latka du ga, shebaz sharif ne kaha zardari ko sark pe ghasteu ga, every one is same,no difference
Mian Shahbaz had done quite a lot of work in Punjab. I don't think there was a project in any other province that could match the size of metro project and he was mocked by PTI for distributing Laptops(don't know the story behind that), Really?.
shahbaz sharif ki example uss husband ki hai jis ko salary mili tu bacho k school ki fees k bajai biwi k lye diamond necklace le aya iss ko progress nhi bewakofi kehtay han, sub se phle load shedding ka masla hal kary logo ki factories band ho gai who laptops bant raha hai, laptops charge krnay k lye bhi battery chahye, metro bus banrahi hai, hospitals ka hal dehka hai, doctors kyun gai strike pe sub bhool gai, female doctors pe police se danday parwai, aur jo laptops pe corruption ki hai uss ka media ne post martum kiya tha i will share the link later, aur jitney projects thay who 11th oct k bad, kyun k Imran k jalsa se who dar gai thay.
Nawaz Sharif is known for doing good stuff for the industries(Policies).
ans:plz share any example, as I don't know any
- (Unsure) Religion maybe involved as a lot of girls were shown wearing jeans which was sort of unacceptable for people. ans: agr asa hota tu peshwar, kpk mei majority na hoti, Imran ko her kism k log ne accept kya, burqa mei bhi ladies thi aur jeans mei bhi, thts a lame excuse
PML-N is a much bigger party than PTI.
ans:agreed they were more capable of buying everyone, they were more powerful
Re: Why Punjab did not vote PTI?
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nhi someone needs to answer and clear things, no one did so I thought I should do it
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Good job. You got points :k:
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I very much agree with this assessment.
PPPP is done and dusted. The 2008 election was an anomaly because of the extraordinary and tragic events leading up to it; there will never be another Benazir to be able to move voters.
Judging by this election’s outcome, PTI’s prospects appear bleak too in Punjab. Imran Khan, a life-long resident of Lahore, nearly died campaigning in the city but couldn’t win his seat in Lahore! Not even a sympathy vote, never mind his charisma, philanthropic contributions through Shaukat Khanum Hospital, and his role as the captain that won the country cricket World Cup trophy. Ibrar-ul-Haq coudn’t win a seat despite his own philanthropic contributions, celebrity status as a former beloved musician, and clean corruption-free record. PML-N’s heir apparent Hamza Shabaz Sharif won his seat in Lahore but Allama Iqbal’s grandson failed to win one…
The factors that motivated people to vote for PML-N-- whether it was the baradri factor, satisfaction with the status quo, apprehensions about trying someone new, reservations about voting for someone from a party other than PML-N, or whatever else it was-- will most likely still be there come 2018 or 2023. The Sharifs and PML-N are not so dumb that they will antagonize their vote bank. They will keep throwing a few big-ticket projects like some more shiny new roads and flyovers, metro buses in other cities of Punjab, more ‘gifts’ for the youth in the form of laptops etc. etc. even if basic services like hospitals crumble or the rest of the country rots or goes hungry with not even enough atta to eat.
PML-N is in for the long-haul. It has the template of winning by an almost landslide in one province to be able to comfortably form government in the centre. It will most likely keep using that template, rinse, rig if needed, repeat and viola…
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It was their first time ever !
Yes he did mistakes and he accepted that !
It was a multi-front war......
*Biased media protrate IK as immature non political leader of children.
*Moulana Dezaal put too much pressure on IK by giving fatwa against IK, calling him a agent of Jew *(While Moulana himself ready to suck the milk from Yankee's b......., Moulana was dreaming about becoming the next PM). *
*IK main focus was Punjab and he neglected other provinces. He thought his fight was with Nawaz Shrif, leaving PPP aside thinking that PPP won't get any votes.
*Major issue in the whole country was load-sheeding. IK failed to explain common people about eighteen amendment and power shared between Center and Provinces. Media also did poor job explaining people about the major issues in the country and who was responsible to take care of those.
*SMQ did very poor job; he should have taken some of the load off of IK.
*ECP failed big time, all the corrupted politicians, no degree hold were accepted by ECP.
*Nawaz Sharif has more experience, he used his money for negative campaign and character assassination, called him liberal, taban khan etc. Ik was alone while whole Noora family open multi front wars against IK.
*Noora family was support by USA and KSA and the reason for this will come out pretty soon.