Why people wear black during Muharram

With all due respect to Imam-e-Aali Muqaam Hussain :ra:

My question in very specific to Muslims who wear black color during Muharram (specially first 10 days or Ashura). What is the significance of wearing black during Muharram. I know it was Hazrat Ali :ra: favourite color and Prophet :saw: also used to wear ‘kamli’ or rida which was black. Huzrat Hussain :ra: also wore it, don’t know if his army’s flag was black or not. If Sunnah of these personalities is the reason then we should wear it here and there throughout the year, among other colors that they wore.

I though in Islam there is no symbolism except for what Allah and His messenger :saw: defined for us.

Please don’t bring secetarian virus in this discussion. This is purely for educational purposes.

Black is the symbol of sorrow and grief. Momineen mourn the tragedy of Karbala in moharrum so they wear black.
Peace........

Perfectly said.....
Its nothing different from the christians who also wear black on mourings....or the hindus who wear white.
I mean in our faith the color black itself represents sorrow, mouring or grief. And for the same reason u wuldnt find any1 wearing black to a wedding.
And for clearance, no1 wears black in Muharram becuz they believe it was Hazrat Ali's fav color nor do they do it to replica the Prophet (PBUH)'s way....

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Thank you both. That’s a good point.

So any reference in Prophet or his companion wearing black at the time of grief.
For instance The biggest grief of Prophet’s life was either ‘aam-ul-hazn’ the year in which Hazrat Khadiija tul kubra and Hazrat Abu Talib passed away, or when Hazrat Hamza got shahadat during Uhad. Did Prophet :saw: wear black to show his grief? I am unable to find any reference that is why I am asking.

Also did companions wear black when Prophet passed away.

If not then its probably was some tradition in Ajam or Faaras. Not an Islamic tradition.

Thanks.

Thank you very much for your statement. None of the posters above have claimed reference to the Prophet or the companions. Please go ahead and declare shias “Kaafir” or “Deviant” already and drop this charade of “gaining knowledge only” Thank you once again.

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This is not pointed towards shias or anyone else. Many sunnis also wear black during Muharrum. I would like to know if there is anything 'Islamic' in it. Who made it Islamic. Examples above are from other religion not Islam. Prophet and early Muslims did not have this tradition of wearing black to mourn, it must have come from other cultures. If people feel better wearing black for mourning, its fine. But it cannot be called an Islamic tradition.

Sad, that you saw it negatively. What is Islamic and what is just a tradition, is beyond the secetarian pea-brain thinking. Its a straight forward question.

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There is no religious obligation as such to wear black if thats what you are asking. Like makrani said above, black symbolized sorrow hence people wear that to show their love for the Sibt e Rasool Allah (saww).

AOA

In islam we have:

Halal
Mustahib
Mubah
Makrooh
Haram

for simplicity how would one define wearing red in marriage ceremeny.

No hard feelings and sorry for mistakes as I am both " zero and Khan"

Re: Why people wear black during Muharram

its a cultural expression of Islamically motivated mourning. if we assume that those who wear black believe "Imam Hussain's shahadat should be marked with sadness" then how that sadness is expressed is necessarily going to be different across cultures, however it remains a religious act (the only significance of Imam Hussain is in an Islamic context).

it is generally believed that the Prophet, in his aam-ul-huzn, expressed sadness in arabic, and not urdu or english. it would be difficult to convince someone in a similar situation to express his or her grief in the Prophet's language, especially if they dont know arabic beforehand. speaking from experience, the last thing on my mind when a loved one died was that I should express sorrow in arabic, it just doesnt occur to you at the time.

The really relevant point then is whether or not one should mark the occasion with sadness, since expressions of joy or happiness are always going to be different across cultures.

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Thanks ravage, good explaination.

So did Prophet :saw: mourn every year on the same day on which Hazrat Khadija, Abu Talib and later Hamza :ra: died? I think thats a relevant question if we go by logic behind my original question and your answers.

My philosiphy has changed over the time period, I tend to think that to remember and pay our highest gratitude to these pure souls is to follow their deeds and message. If we extract the message from Karbala tragedy, the message is follow the truth, the teaching of Prophet in general in every aspect of our lives(and shoora instead of monarchy in terms of govt) and never surrender to evil (be it inside ourselves or a fitna in society). Instead people (no matter which sect you belong to) waste time and skip namaz preparing Sabeel, making haleem, building taaziye etc etc. Again if we keep Imam’s message in mind, we astry from the goal and get busy in rituals for self satisfaction only. Reading Quran and Dua are the best according to the teaching of Prophet for deseased.

Red dress on wedding and white dress for widows is all Bull from Hindu that we carried.

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Personally, I am not that religious (just moderate)... and I have not seen any one wearing black for these days. I live in the west and have less exposure to the Muslim culture.

Whatever little we have - like the Masjid - as a "house of religion" - I have not seen it there either.

I dont see anything wrong with red dress on wedding, although white for widows is troubling for me personally. but thats a seperate discussion.

You offer a false choice though, its either extract and study the message or make public demonstrations. Its either namaz or skip namaz to prepare sabeel. Is that just a rhetorical device or do you refer to people who say skipping namaz is cool in muharram. The latter case is clearly misguided in my opinion.

One purpose of demonstrations has been explained to me as a public disassociation from evil. One can ofcourse study revolutions or ponder upon tyranny in the privacy of his home, but another effective public propaganda device are those marches and sabeels etc. In my opinion, historical view of Imam hussain’s struggle might have been very different had it not been entered into public record every single year. Atleast as far as shias are concerned, one religious responsibility is tabarra… which altho is associated with ‘masala’ speeches actually means disassociation (public) from evil.

Clearly the specifics such as Alams and zuljenah etc are all culture specific demonstrations (you dont have the same things in other parts of the world). But again I dont believe that one needs to adopt arabic culture or language for religious expression.

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*The Martyr Of Karbala: His Goals and Message, Our Responsibilities
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Human history may be regarded as a series of crises and revolutions, its most important stages written with the blood of martyrs. In the history of Islam, al Husain ibn 'Ali, the martyr of Karbala, wrote one of the most brilliant chapters; a chapter which still and after more than thir¬teen centuries, echoes in the minds and hearts of Muslims everywhere

The martyrdom of Husain(AS) is of great significance in Islamic history. This is because of the man himself; his character, piety, valour, magnanimity, patience, his lofty goals and message for all of us, and his relation¬ship to the Prophet Muhammad(SAW), and the latter's love for him. It is further¬more of great significance because of what this martyrdom itself meant for the religion of Islam in exposing the wrong and upholding the right through the sharp contrast between him and his followers on the one hand and his antagonists on the other. He rejected the rule of a man who was generally agreed not to have been fit to rule. In this sense he was one of the greatest revolutionaries of all times.

The purpose of this brief write up is to discuss the lofty goals and aims of Imam Husain(AS)’s martyrdom in Karbala and his message for all of us. We intend to discuss questions like : was his great sacrifice necessary in the wake of circumstances and conditions prevalent in the contemporary Islamic world? What were the goals and aims of his martyrdom? Is the significance of his martyrdom confined to the times when it occurred or its significance is for all the times to come? What is message of his martyrdom for us in this age? And most importantly what are our responsibilities with regard to his lofty goals and martyrdom? Have we to be just passive mourners and lamenters? Or we have some higher responsibilities in this wake?

The martyrdom of Imam Husain ibn 'Ali (AS) and his companions in Karbala' proved to be the beginning of the downfall of the Banu Umayyads dynasty which had usurped the Islamic khilafah by deceit, repression, and corruption of the Muslim community. Though the Imam (AS) was martyred with his family and companions, and apparently his murderers seemed to emerge winners from the conflict, it was the martyr of Karbala' who was the real victor. The mourning ceremonies that have been held through the last hundreds of years to commemorate this most significant event in the history of Islam generally known as Muharram ceremonies, held during the month of Muharram in remembrance of the 'Ashura' movement, are a witness that Yazid(L) with all his worldly might has disgrace and failure as his destiny and Imam Husain ibn Ali(AS) emerged a true victor who faced intimidation, brutalities and sufferings but could not bowed down and showed the utmost steadfastness in Allah’s way. This incident has its background whose elaborate details have been given by Muslim historians. Briefly, it may be said that Imam Husain's revolt, staged against the tyranny, injustice, and repression of the regime and torture and execution of pious Muslims, which violated the Islamic concept of a just Islamic polity and society, was to uphold the ideals and values of Islam propounded in the Qur'an and the traditions of the Prophet (S), to rescue the higher human values, moral, social, political and spiritual, and to preserve the true spirit of Islam. It was basically aimed by the martyred Imam (AS)to rescue Islam as the message of the last Prophet, a message that had to endure, not only in the hearts and spirits of saints but on the plane of society, and he achieved his purpose most completely. The episode of Karbala' became the everlasting stage on which, more than anything else, the great spirit of an Imam of the Ahl al-Bayt was put for eternal display, not in mere words or traditions recorded in books, but against the background of the greatest tragedy in human history and scenes of love and loyalty, bravery and sacrifice, nobility and high spirituality, blood and battle, and also those of treachery and betrayal, human abasement and wretchedness, perversity and depravity. Due to his refusal to compromise with godlessness and tyranny, the Imam has been remembered as the very embodiment of tawhid, of la ilaha illallah, by all great Islamic mystics, thinkers, writers and poets.

The statement of Imam(AS) delineates his purpose for refusing the allegiance to Yazid(L):

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“Indeed, I have not risen up to do mischief, neither as an adventurer, nor to cause corruption and tyranny. I have risen up solely to seek the reform of the Ummah of my grandfather (S). I want to command what is good and stop what is wrong, and (in this) I follow the conduct of my grandfather and my father, 'Ali ibn Abi Talib.”
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The bold part is what Shia believe, and I respect for what they do. They have different ideology and I don’t want to say anything against it as I am nobody to say such thing.

However other Muslims who believe in such things like ceremonial mourning etc, its not what these pure souls have taught us. And by gathering to mourn doesn’t provide any proof that Imam Aaali Muqaam is the real victor. We all know intentions of Imam and Yazid and anyone can see the difference of the lives they lived and the way they died. The real thing is to practice the message of Imam Hussain, his father and Grand father :saw:. Are we following it or not. Most of the Ummah is not following the basics except for Ramadhan and Muharram. Thats the cry of time, thats the worrisome thing. We need to remember Prophet, his companion and Ahle bait’s teachings and lives throughout the year, not just Ramadhan or Muharram in a specific way.

Remember how Prophet used to perform tahhujjud whole night weeping for Ummah and its sins and pray for them to Allah.

Remember how Ahle-bait did faaqa for days and their isaar and their sacrifices.

Remember why Imam got out of the comfort to make a difference between truth and evil. Implement it in our lives, daily lives. Speak only but truth, reach out to the humanity and help them.

Do something good to bring harmony among Muslims of different school of thoughts, instead of immitating other sects or blindly opposing them. So the other Muslims, let Shias do what they do, with respect. And focus ourselves to the message of Imam and his Grand father. Inshallah nobody will be hurt and nobody will hurt others. You don’t need to bring taziye and rallies just to compete with others. Do fast on 9th-10th or 10th-11th as Prophet recommended and other things he taught us.

Should I take it as "shias are not focused on Imam's message?
or you would like to rephrase it?

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They probably do. I am talking about (minus rituals) that are now associated with Muharram. Specially the ones that Sunnis have started to match or compete or whatever the motive is, with Shias. They don't need to, its not their tradition. It just started in last 30 years.
Simply be on task, follow the message and lives of these great leaders.

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I agree with smooth_guy to an extent because i do not think we as an umma have made much efforts to understand or act on the message of Imam Hussain (as).

We must ponder hard as to what choices we as an ummat made after the Prophet (pbuh&f) that led to Karbala. The most purified ones of the time was alone and helpless and the most najis one was on the seat of so called 'khilafat".

Our beloved Prophet (pbuh&f) sacrificed his life for Islam. So did Imam Ali, Saeyada Fatima, Imam Hasan etc. A lot of pious sahaba also sacrificed alot for Islam. But with Imam Hussain it was just not his head that was taken. Even children of the family weren't spared. The ladies of the house of the Prophet were captured and paraded shamelessly. Imam Zainul Abideen was made to stand in the courtyard of Yazeed (L) and listen to abuse against the Prophet of Islam. They watched as YAzeed (L) insulted the head of Imam Hussain (as) with his stick.

In Quran, Allah (swt) has ordered us very clearly: Say: “No reward do I ask of you for this except the love of those near of kin.” (al-Quran 42:23).

What a reward we chose to give our Prophet (pbuh&f) as a ummat!!

by the which ritual was started in last 30 yrs?

Ditto!

I see how the discussion has changed over time....
Personaly if any1 feels dat following Shia traditions iz a waste of time, becuz the thnk we all should look at the message of Imams life and not death. Then they are sadly mistaken.
Its how the Imam sacrificed his life and those beloved to him, do we learn the inner truth.
And i thnk evry1 be he shia or not, should restrain himself during atleast the 10dayz of ashura....As Muhraam iz not only registerd to shiaz. Every1 who calls himself a devote of the Holy Prophet should show respect to his Grand children.