why people don't learn from their mistakes?

my brother is a friend with this girl who goes to his college. she is a very happy go lucky sort of a person, friends with everyone.
last year she started liking that person and she started seeing him. they kissed hugged etc, didn’t sleep around though. planned to get married to each other once he is out of the college. she was 19 back then and the guy was 20 years old. few months later her parents find out about their relationship and got really mad and send the girl to pakistan and got her married to the first rishta they find. they guy who she got married to is 11 years older then her and not very educated at all. he runs a small business and lives with his family. he has a very pakistani mentality and doesn’t take her out for dinner or lunch and not very responsible. he never gave her any money, or took her out for dinner, shopping etc. according to her she tried her best to love himr but she couldn’t.
few months after the shadi she came back to america so she can file his paper and stuff. after she came back their conversation on phone started out very sweet but later it turned in to fights because she said he doesn’t care about anything. if she calls he would talk to her but doesn’t call her on his own. he was not very affectionate to her in anyways and just showed his interest in coming to america, but didn’t take any responsibility of filling the paper or anything, all of it was done by his uncle, and the girl’s father.
when she wanted to go back to pakistan the guy and his family showed no interest in her getting her back because according to her they were scared that if she comes back he might never be able to go to america. and when she insisted a lot they asked her father to pay for her tickets and other expense.

she did managed to have some feelings in her heart for her husband while she was in pakistan but after their bad behavior over the phone she lost those feeligns.

while all this was going on she enrolled back in college and started chatting with her old boy friend again along with some other guys. when my brother tried to talk to her about not getting in to boys again she said that she is just friend with them and she wouldn’t do anything. but she still sneak out of college to see guys which she calls are “just” her friends nothing else. at the same time she says she has no love for her husband in her heart but she still has feelings for her boyfriend.

she listens to my brother a lot, do you guys think my brother should advice her to get divorce or try her best to live with her husband who is coming to america in few months.

and how the hell do we stop her making same mistakes she made before which resulted in her marriage.

In this situation.. bigger mistake I is say what the parents made!
The girl and her bf decided they'll take their time.. and finish education first.. She was smart enough to make that decision. Wht the parents did was foolish.. and mistake on their part..

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why would the parents do that to her!! So mean....if she liked the guy and was a decent well educated person...then what's wrong with the that? Instead they marry her off to some random guy that doesn't sound very smart...

I don't think this girl will ever forgot her BF...and she will have a horrid time if her hubby comes to America...there are gonna be so many issues...and she will regret it more and more each day.

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end it and then she should figure out what she wants to do, she can easily pull the immigration case saying she was taken there and pressured to marry the dude.

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Divorce her husband. She's never gonna be happy. Which shows she's already talking to other guys. She's always gonna love her bf, she wasnt a kid she was 19.

When she's done with the hubby, She can focus on her college/career. and go frm there.
If only the parents didnt ruin that, who knows she cud of been a successful, happily married young lady.

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The number of asian parents that have this kind of mentality is shocking - they find out their daughter has a bf and they get her on the quickest flight back home and marry her off to any old village idiot.

They think it solves the 'problem' but it actually creates so much resentment and pain for the girl.

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phir loog kehtay hain kay let your parents make the decision they wouldn't think bad for you blah blah blah. but parents are just as human as anyone else and they can make as much mistakes as anyone.

Wh the hell people just cant mind their own business.

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:salute: agreed, the parents should have just let her do what she wanted rather than stepping in and forcing her to marry some village idiot from pakistan. dunno why they could not have minded their own business

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as you are saying husband is really not interested in her so chances are he will leave her eventually. may be its not less than any other paper marriages.

kher your brother needs to mind his own business, kaheen khud he bakra na bun jayea.

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yeah man tell ur bro to mind his business and keep out of hte mess

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so your inncoent firend fooled around with a guy - kissed and hugged but didnt sleep (yeh sure!) and then went to pakistan and married some random dude. Did her husband know about her previous fling? or is she afraid that the husband’s “pakistani” mentality won’t tolerate such a thing?

And I like how this story ends up with being the husband’s fault. He doesnt take her out to lunch , he’s lazy etc etc But no mention of the huge betryal by the girl.

But as it is with this forum, ultimately the guy get the blame. :rolleyes:

75% of the people here on this forum are discussing other people’s problem, that girl who posted about an unmarried girl getting pregnant wasn’t exactly talking about her self either. so what if i am discussing other people’s problem here???
please don’t say anything unless you have a good advice. and thanks for your concern about my brother, he is 2 years younger than her so i am sure he is in safe zone.

never in my post i said it’s the husband’s fault, i wrote what she said. and i am certainly not on the girl’s side if i was i would have never asked for advice, and the title of this thread is “why people don’t learn from their mistakes” i was talking about the girl’s mistake which she made by going out with that guy, and now after marriage she is doing it all over again.
if it is anyone’s mistake it’s her parents.
and yes her husband knows about that guy she dated before marrying him.

so.. whenor where did I say anything about your brother? or you? :confused:
I stated her parents should have let her live her life and not interfered.
please read again :slight_smile:

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  1. her parents should not have forced her to marry someone.

  2. She's stuck in an unhappy marriage.

  3. I wont say she's cheating, but shes definitely on a slippery slope.

  4. Also, ure not in any place to stp her from making any mistakes. she's just someone ur brother goes to college wtih, she's not your sister or friend is she?

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i think u shud advise her watever u think is rite for her....

u must help that poor soul...

i am so sorry i didn’t mean to quote your post i accidentally did that. and it wasn’t you, it was libranrulz who was concern about my brother.

well actually she doesn’t exactly share her situation with anyone but my brother because since he is younger than her she feels he is different from all the other guys who are her friend. and she doesn’t like to talk to any of the girls about her problems because they tend to gossip a lot and she doesn’t want to be gossiped. she knows that my brother shares everything with me, it a given because my brother and i are really good friends. so that’s why i posted this topic here because when my brother was telling me about her it made me really worried. and i don’t know about you guys, but if she gets in trouble this time i would feel really bad that we didn’t do anything to stop her because last time when she got cought with her boyfriend and was forced to be married i felt terrible for days that i couldn’t do anything about that.

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Why do parents do this? :(

because they can. :(

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I know about someone who has been in similar situation, she was going out with someone, parents found out, took pakistan and got married to the village idiot. He came over, was ok at first but soon as got his visa status updated, he became a totally different person. The couple have two children now, the guy drinks, smokes, drug doesnt work etc

Now she is only putting up with him is for the sake of her children. had she known that he was going to change this way and was only marrying her for the visa purposes, she would have finished it before she had the kids.

I dont think it is fair that a person makes one mistake ie has a boyfriend and as a result has to suffer for the rest of their life. Sure what has happened so far was not asked for and the parents thought what they were doing was best for her but obviously not.

From what you have wrote above, she knows that he is only doing this for the visa purposes and is only interested in coming to usa, does she think by getting him over he will change? ofcourse not, does she a good future with him? probably not.

It is easy for everyone to say what she is doing is bad etc but you have to be in her shoe to know exactly how she is and how she is feeling, she may be feeling vunerable, alone, lonely, which is putting her into a position where she is enjoying the attention she is getting from other guys. It isnt right but that is probably her way of dealing with it, however if you and your bro do want to help then you need to ask what she wants? does she want to continue her relationship with her husband or does she not see a future with him and wants to end it? or does she want to marry her bf and study and get a career?

Theres so much needs to be asked before she can be helped, onyl she knows what she wants, there is no right or wrong answer, just hope the best for her, she still is very young and has the whole life ahead of her.