Why no outcry for the murder of Pakistani Women and Children

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Pakistani children, women, and innocent men are being slaughtered by Taliban all in the name of Islam.

Their plight is ignored by the most of the Pakistanis. No one talks about helping them, no one wants to volunteer to save them.

And yet, the same Pakistanis are shouting mad, when it comes to Arab children dying as a result of Gaza violence.

Young children are being killed by Taliban in two ways. One is the way they are killed mercilessly and the other way is how Mullahs make them suicide bombers.

May be these Pakistanis should renounce their heritage and apply for Palestinian citizenship.

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May be Pakistan's intellectuals are all Arabs, and they think ordinary Pakistanis are Ajams or worse Hindus.

May be that's why there is no outcry for the murder of Pakistani girls at the hands of Talibans and Arab militants.

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Re: Why no outcry for the murder of Pakistani Women and Children

Bcoz
1-the reality that Islam can be "used" by miscreants is yet to sink in. Our simple minded people still beleive that everyone with a long beard, and claiming to uphold Islam can never do anything wrong. They are still in "denial" that these crimes are comitted by our own brothers.

2- The ruling class is extremely corrupt and people do not trust them.

3- The practicing muslims are not spearheading the compaign against this barbarism, they are just keeping quite, while the islamophobic like you (j/K) are yelling at top of there lungs and people don't trust them either.

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burqaposh you are right, the civil society talk about military actions agaisnt them, but hardly try to come out and support innocent people being killed and harrassed by these goons.

i am sure public protest against taliban like people will damage the image of these terrorists who consider them heroes and saviour of Islam!

National and other nations also dont raise eye brows even on such events, similar acts in india and western world will make headlines, but not about Pakistanis getting killed by these thugs.

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Let me complete your thoughts;

One side is Arab, other side is Jewish, right BP.

Now please take off your veil and tell us what side are you with, sorry my bad, you already told us.

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That's so true. Would China ever allow terrorists to control any of its parts? No.

I guess Chinese, or Indians, or Westerners would probably have more love for their country than some far off Arab lands.

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I think part of the problem is that there is nearly no awareness for this problem. Normally, for crimes of this magnitude (treason, setting up a rebel fascist totalitarian regime, fashioning suicide bombers out of 15 year olds, denying women basic rights, denying everyone else basic rights, dictating peoples' professions and their daily activities to a microscale management, patrolling streets with guns and facemasks so you cannot even identify people in your new "government"), there would be major press coverage. This in turn, would lead to a national and international outrage. This would lead to more pressure on the Pakistani government to cut their crap of backdoor support to any Talibani groups, if there is such a thing going on, which is what I'm beginning to seriously suspect.

Its not happening because press coverage over the past two years of Swat's rape by these militants is barely presented to the Pakistani people. Many pakistanis don't even understand in detail what's really going on ground!!! Unless they have family living there.

As for your insinuations that Pakistanis are more willing to stand up for Arabs than for their own Pakistani blood, again, lets look at how much media coverage there is over GAZA , vs. how much media coverage is there about Swat. You ask any random person what is Swat, they will tell you its the team of people that sweep in on those black security trucks in Ocean's 11.

Additionally, Pakistani urban areas have always had a cultural disconnect with the northern areas, FATA, and NWFP rural areas. Even when people do hear about what's going on in SWAT, they don't have visuals to associate with what's going on (like we had in Lal Masjid), and they don't know enough people living in these areas and they possibly haven't visited these areas to meet the people and learn more about them. Additionally, education in Pakistan is very poor about these people; I bet most don't even know the names of many of the languages spoken in these areas, their customs, the names of their villages, etc. Therefore, its psychologically difficult to get outraged about something that you're not hearing about every time you open up the news and when you don't have any connection with those people.

I know, they're all terribe excuses for apathy, and you know how much I try to bring light and attention to what's going on in NWFP, even though I'm not even from there. But that's the psychology behind it. Will this psychology ruin Pakistan? Probably. Pakistanis just aren't aware of it yet.

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Sorry, but you argument is totally wrong. Issue of Palestine/Israel is political one, not religious one, like the issue of Kashmir. Occupied people have every right to demand their freedom & deserve sympathy from people around the world. Taliban on the other hand, are creation of our generals & army who you so passionately have been defending. Taliban are brainwashed terrorist zombies & cannot be compare with what is going in the Middle East or in Kashmir.

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Well said.

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Sadly as they say 'ghar ki murghi daal barabar', we have more love for Arab blood (in name of Islam), when same Arab blood joins AlQaida/Taliban and ruin Pakistan we are okay with that.

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Yeah. Some of these Pakistani kids are raised on a kind of Arab hashish that Arabs were this and Arabs were that. In reality the areas now covered by Saudi, Yemen, UAE, Jordan, Syria, Iraq etc. have not produced a dime worth of thing in at least 500-700 years. In fact these tribals have been worse than our FATA tribals. Things only improved in the last 40 odd years all thanks to Americans and British gifting the oil wealth to these beduins.

And that Arab Hashish is responsible for keeping Pakistani kids on this forum to remain mum about tribal and Arab atrocities against Pakistani women and kids.

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I don't think the Arab Hashish is really doing much, as we grow our own hashish, thank-you very much (sarcasm), why do we need theirs when we have our own?

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Ok madaam. It could be our own hashish but it is heavily flavored with Arab's essence. That's why Arabs cannot do wrong no matter what. We are sacrificing our own Pakistani brothers and sisters just to please the sahih Muslims aka arabs.

BTW did you read the translation of essay on "whore of Swat" thread?

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Do you guys not read Pakistani newspapers? Do you not watch Pakistani news channels? I am quite serious about the sheer ignorance regarding how the Pakistani people feel about someone from thier town or area dying.

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CM .. from what I know, the rallies against israel and in support of palestinains have traditionally been significantly larger than rallies against taleban and in support of their pakistani victims.

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people who support Hamas in Pakistan, also support Taliban. For them Hamas and Taliban are carrying out Islam's work.

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Could not agree more with you esp. points 1 and 2

As for 3 people are just too scared to speak out against Taliban; those who did try were quickly taken care of by these miscreants. Was n't it some 'peer' somewhere in NWFP (? Swat) who was gunned down recently by TTP because he dared to stand up against them and was infact raising his own army to fight their menace.

But I agree we should have had peaceful demonstrations else-where in the country against suicide-bombings, taliban terror and ideology etc. But in a country where the overall literacy ratio is barely 30-35%, this is perhaps wishful

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Are you seriously equating the rallies as an indication of grief? Wow. That is absurd. People feel the grief and pain regardless if there is a rally or not. To equatet the two is

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Apathy is not the answer either. It can often be mistaken by these extremists as silent approval of their actions. Probably a significant majority - the ones that have not been directly affected by their violence - still support them or are atleast indifferent to their actions. Forget their barbaric acts (such as suicide bombing, beheading, blowing up schools) even some of their 'normal' behaviour like depriving women of education, beating them on the ankles with a stick for just showing their feet (even though they are wearing burqa!!) is clearly inhuman and contrary to islamic teachings. Not just demonstrations but there needs to be a strong sustained campaign against their barbarism and backward interpretation of Islam. When these scumbags realise that what they are doing has no support amongst the masses and is rejected by even practising muslims it is bound to have some effect on them and they will be forced to retreat

aur ab baat sirif anger aur grief kee nahin rahee. ab pani sar se ooper aa chuka hai. We need to take these people out, declare war on them, get all the innocents out first and put them in camps set up outside for the purpose and then move in decisively, with real determination to capture or kill each and every one of these 4 or 5,000 miscreants. Have said it many times before but this farce cannot go on like this. Random killing of a few militants every few days is just prolonging the agony.

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The situation in Swat is going to get much worse before it gets better. And its mainly because of the apathy of the Pakistani people, and the apathetic response from the military. We are so ready to fight the Indians, but our warfare tactics have been less than adequate in NWFP. Its true - killing a few militants a day isn't going to do anything - they just keep reproducing like flies.