Why Nelson Mandela is Angry

In the past few weeks Nelson Mandela has been highly critical of the US’s attitude towards Iraq. To many he is one of the most renowned International statesman and his views command worldwide respect.

Why Nelson Mandela is Angry

http://allafrica.com/stories/200209270643.html

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Mail & Guardian (Johannesburg) September 27, 2002

If there is anything wrong with Madiba it is that for the past decade he has been misunderstood, writes Gary Younge

Say what you like about Nelson Mandela, but he is not a man known to bear a grudge or lose his temper easily. Having waited 27 years for his freedom, he emerged from jail to preach peace and reconciliation to a nation scarred by racism. When he finally made the transition from the world’s most famous prisoner to the world’s most respected statesman, he invited his former jailer to the inauguration.

So when he criticises United States foreign policy in terms every bit as harsh as those he used to condemn apartheid, you know something is up. In the past few weeks he has issued a “strong condemnation” of the US’s attitude towards Iraq, lambasted Vice-President Dick Cheney for being a “dinosaur” and accused the US of being “a threat to world peace”.

Coming from other quarters, such criticisms would have been dismissed by both the White House and Downing Street as the words of appeasement, anti-Americanism or left-wing extremism. But Mandela is not just anyone.

Towering like a moral colossus over the late 20th century, his voice carries an ethical weight like no other. He rode to power on a global wave of goodwill, left office when his five years were up and settled down to a life of elder statesmanship. So the belligerent tone he has adopted of late suggests one of two things; either that something is very wrong with the world, or that something is very wrong with Mandela.

**What Mandela believes is wrong with the world is not difficult to fathom. He is annoyed at how the US is exploiting its overwhelming military might. **Earlier this month, after President George W Bush would not take his calls, he spoke to Secretary of State Colin Powell and then the president’s father, asking the latter to discourage his son from attacking Iraq.

“What right has Bush to say that Iraq’s offer is not genuine?” he asked this month. “We must condemn that very strongly. No country, however strong, is entitled to comment adversely in the way the US has done. They think they’re the only power in the world. They’re not and they’re following a dangerous policy. One country wants to bully the world.”

Having supported the bombing of Afghanistan, he cannot be dismissed as a peacenik. But his assessment of the current phase of Bush’s war on terror is as damning as anything coming out of the Arab world. “If you look at these matters, you will come to the conclusion that the attitude of the United States of America is a threat to world peace.”

And then there is the dreaded “r” word. Accusations of discrimination do not fall often or easily from Mandela’s lips, but when they do, the world is forced to sit up and listen. So far, he has fallen short of accusing the West of racism in its dealings with the developing world, but he has implied sympathy with those who do. “When there were white secretary generals, you didn’t find this question of the US and Britain going out of the United Nations. But now that you’ve had black secretary generals, such as Boutros Boutros Ghali and Kofi Annan, they do not respect the UN. This is not my view, but that is what is being said by many people.”

Most surprising in these broadsides has been his determination to point out particular individuals for blame. As a seasoned political hand, Mandela has previously eschewed personal invective but has clearly made an exception when it comes to Cheney. In 1986 Cheney voted against a resolution calling for his release because of his alleged support for “terrorism”. Mandela insists that he is not motivated by pique. “Quite clearly we are dealing with an arch-conservative in Dick Cheney … my impression of the president is that this is a man with whom you can do business. But it is the men around him who are dinosaurs, who do not want him to belong to the modern age.”

In fact, behind the scenes, the White House is attempting to portray Mandela, now 84, as something of a dinosaur himself – the former leader of an African country, embittered by the impotence that comes with retirement and old age. It is a charge they have found difficult to make stick.

Mandela has never been particularly encumbered by delusions of grandeur. When asked whether he would be prepared to mediate in the current dispute, he replied. “If I am asked by credible organisations to mediate, I will consider that very seriously. But a situation of this nature does not need an individual, it needs an organisation like the UN to mediate. A man who has lost power and influence can never be a suitable mediator.”

In truth, since leaving office he has shown consummate diplomatic skill. In 1999 he persuaded Libyan leader Moammar Gadaffi to hand over the two alleged intelligence agents indicted in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing. Last year he was personally involved in the arrangement – sanctioned by the UN – to send South African troops to Burundi as a confidence-building measure in a bid to forestall a Rwandan-style genocide. …

He has every right to be angry, and the rest of the world feel the same way about Bush and his butt kisser Blair.

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Mandela’s latest statement about the Iraq crisis

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click_id=126&art_id=qw1033394220695B253&set_id=1

Jakarta, Indonesia - Former South African President Nelson Mandela on Monday intensified his criticism of United States policy on Iraq, and alleged that race was a factor in countries questioning the United Nations.

“No country, however powerful it may be, is entitled to act outside the United Nations,” he told local Trans TV on his arrival at Jakarta’s Sukarno Hatta Airport for a four-day trip. “The United Nations is here to promote peace in the world and any country that acts outside the United Nations is making a serious mistake.”

Mandela, a frequent critic of US policy on Iraq, also said that countries were only challenging the mandate of the United Nations now because Secretary-General Kofi Annan is black.

“I have also said when the secretary-generals were white, we never had the question of any country ignoring the United Nations,” he said. “But now that we have got the black secretary-generals like Boutros Boutros Ghali and now Kofi Annan, certain countries that believe in white supremacy, are ignoring the United Nations,” he said. “We have to combat that without reservation.”

President Bush said the United States will lead a coalition to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein from power if he does not destroy his weapons of mass destruction. Iraq has said it will allow weapons inspectors into the country to check its weapons capability. But on Saturday, it said they must return under terms of previous UN resolutions, meaning inspectors would not have access to sprawling presidential palaces as the US has demanded.

Mandela and the South African government have good relations with Iraq. Mandela has called the United States a threat to world peace and said its belligerent policy toward Iraq was an effort to appease the oil and arms industry. Before meeting with Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz on the sidelines of the World Summit in Johannesburg earlier this month, Mandela told reporters he was “appalled” by US threats against Baghdad.

Mandela is scheduled to meet President Megawati Sukarnoputri on Tuesday and spend the remainder of his time working with children’s charities. Embassy officials described his visit as private. - Sapa-AP

Mandela slams US for its Iraq policy](http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?artid=31650632) Times of India

DEC 18, 2002

DURBAN: Former South African President Nelson Mandela has slammed the United States for trying to find every excuse in the book to go to war against Iraq.

Addressing a African National Congress rally here, Mandela said the US undermined the UN when it got hold of a Iraqi weapons report before it had been sent to the world body. “What appears to be arrogant conduct when the US reportedly grabbed the Iraqi weapons report, gives further cause for concern,” he said.

Mandela was also critical of world leaders who were silent at the action of the US.“The US with the UK in tow, has tended to dangerously disregard the principles of multi-lateral world governance,” he said. Mandela said he would be visiting the US shortly to collect an award from the former American President George Bush and would discuss the issue with him.

No words to express just how much i respect this guy.

Mandela condemns US stance on Iraq, BBC, 30 January 2003

Former South African president Nelson Mandela has criticised US President George W Bush over Iraq, saying the sole reason for a possible US-led attack would be to gain control of Iraqi oil. The US stance on Iraq is “arrogant” and would cause “a holocaust”, Mr Mandela, a Nobel Peace laureate and one of the world’s most respected figures, told a forum in Johannesburg.

He also said UK Prime Minister Tony Blair - who supports Washington over Iraq - was in fact the “US prime minister”. Mr Mandela, 84, accused both the US and UK governments of undermining the United Nations.

“Why does the United States behave so arrogantly?” Mr Mandela asked. "Their friend Israel has got weapons of mass destruction but because it’s their ally they won’t ask the United Nations to get rid of them.

“They just want the oil,” Mr Mandela went on. “We must expose this as much as possible.”

Nelson Mandela called Mr Bush “a president who can’t think properly and wants to plunge the world into holocaust”. He said war “would be devastating not just to Iraq but also to the whole of the Middle East and to other countries of the world”.

Mr Mandela added that both Mr Bush and Tony Blair were undermining the United Nations. “Is this because the secretary general of the United Nations [Ghanaian Kofi Annan] is now a black man? They never did that when secretary generals were white,” he said.

Mr Mandela has consistently voiced strong opposition against a possible war on Iraq - in line with more diplomatic statements issued by the South African Government. On Tuesday, a spokesman for President Thabo Mbeki told the BBC that said higher oil prices brought on by any Middle East war would condemn Africa to deep economic crisis. Mr Mbeki is preparing to leave for Britain to meet Tony Blair at the weekend.

Mandela was always a person who I admired. The most straight foward politician I have ever seen.

Nelson mandela needs a day job.

Nelson needs to spend some time in Iraq under Saddam before he opens his mouth.

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All of a sudden, you guys’ respect for Madiba plunges. Jeez, maybe just maybe, there is an iota of truth in his statements.

Oh, yeah. The sum total of US foreign policy is based on the skin color of the Secretary General. :rolleyes:
When all else fails, play the race card.

With brilliant comments like:

"Is this because the secretary general of the United Nations [Ghanaian Kofi Annan] is now a black man?"

and "a president who...who wants to plunge the world into holocaust"

who can blame us for losing some respect?

More comments from Madela’s speech indicate his lack of knowledge in this area:

Mandela said U.S. President George W. Bush covets the oil in Iraq “because Iraq produces 64 percent of the oil in the world. What Bush wants is to get hold of that oil.” In fact Iraq contributes to only 5 percent of world oil exports.

I think Ari Fleischer sums it up nicely:

*“The president will understand there are going to be people who are more comfortable doing nothing about a growing menace that could turn into a holocaust. He respects people who differ with him. He will do what he thinks is right and necessary to protect our country,” Fleischer said. *

Seminole and UTD,
i find those comments far less difficult to digest than Bush's repetitive 'they hate us because of our freedom' statements.

>>Nelson needs to spend some time in Iraq under Saddam before he opens his mouth.<<
UTD, Why not ask the millions of people in Iraq who have spent all of their lives under Saddam, AND are still opposed to this war, what they think about the US's hunger to go to war against them? i am sure they will echo the same things that Mandela is stating above.

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"Respects people who differ with him"? Really - then why the 'you are either with us or with the terrorists' comment?

>>"He will do what he thinks is right and necessary to protect our country"<<
Seminole, how many Iraqi lives do you think will be destroyed in this war?

You are a rational person - do you honestly believe that, with a war against Iraq, the US will be safer? Don't you see how it will sow the seeds for further terrorism - turning even 'moderates' like me further away from the US admin.? How is that safer for your country?

I love how slips like his race comment can be used to void the entire statement. Remember: this guy is old, he is entitled to some bad phrases. Now, that aside, try to argue the rest of his comments - with solid evidence, something many on your side often demand.

Also, how often is it argued from your side that simple errors in speech can not discredit the overall statement? If this were the case Bush would deserve to be disregarded entirely. (Not to mention more than a handful of other politicians.)

Nelson Mandela will always command international respect, millions of people across the world support his views about the need for diplomacy to resolve the Iraq crisis. He has every right to be angry about the Bush Adminstrations foreign policies. !

Seminole, how many Iraqi lives do you think will be destroyed in this war? <<

Nadia, how many Iraqi lives you think were destroyed in the last 10 years because of Saddam's tyranny and US's no war? That is past and easy to research than speculating about the future. Where are millions of Iraqis living under Saddam ready to disclose their true feelings? You think someone is that stupid?

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Geez. Trent Lott would have loved your degree of tolerance for slips of the tongue.

Nadia writes:
"Why not ask the millions of people in Iraq who have spent all of their lives under Saddam, AND are still opposed to this war, what they think about the US's hunger to go to war against them? i am sure they will echo the same things that Mandela is stating above."

You really think that the Iraqi people who are afraid to even make a face at a picture of Saddam believing they might end up in his torture chambers could particpate in a public opinion poll on this issue? As sure as you are that they would echo Mandela, I am sure that given a free choice they'd want Saddam's head sticking on a post in the middle of Bagdad and would declare holidays to honor any and every American soldier who put it there.

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Nadia, how many Iraqi lives you think were destroyed in the last 10 years because of Saddam's tyranny and US's no war? That is past and easy to research than speculating about the future. Where are millions of Iraqis living under Saddam ready to disclose their true feelings? You think someone is that stupid?
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ChannMahi, You are not the first one i have had this discussion with, and you won't be the last. We can talk numbers if you want - do you know how many lives have been killed in the past ten years as a result of the sanctions? More than have been killed by the US's favourite dictator during the Halabja gas attack. i can reference you a thousand sources, including ones from the Security Council itself, not that it will make much difference to anyone - no one seems to comprehend the picture.

And how many Iraqi lives do you think will be lost in a war? We have seen how 'effective' precision-bombing can be. How much collateral damage is acceptable? Please let me know how a US-led aggression against Iraq will make the US (or for that matter, any country that participates in this illegal war) safer?