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Originally posted by Sarah Splendor:
You're so PURE. Read some literature coming out of the West a few centuries ago. Sex = violence, represented by birds of prey. Sex is the lowest act on the face of this Earth and we all have a natural compulsion for it. Masturbation is no worse than sex is, it's definitely cleaner. And isn't ****ting a lowly act. I actually think masturbation is HIGHER than these things because it's a choice, why does religion have to interfere with what I do to stop myself from lusting?
Ok sex to me is not considered the lowest act. It maybe a primal act but not the lowest in comparison to masturbation. Why? Because in sex, the process of pleasuring one another we create another being. The ultimate purpose of sex is procreation isn't it. To create a new ummah for generations to come. Religion doesn't interfere Sarah. It just guides, thats why you do things the way you want without giving a damn about the ultimate consequences in the here after. We have been blessed with free will, now its up to us to use our knowledge on how to use this gift.
How eloquent. Frankly, who gives a ****. We're not all spiritual, God-fearing individuals. Some of us just don't care about religion, it's a fact of life. But if you really want to excercise your will power, go ahead, I can't force you to masturbate, just as I think religion has no business in interfering with how I handle my body. Coco, you can use taht willpower for a hell of a lot of things that you do now. Stop those things and then we properly discuss masturbation.
*I'm a God fearing individual and he decrees his judgement in this world, in the grave or the hereafter. I would seriously rather be on his good side than suffer his wrath. Again, religion is a guide you can take it or leave it. Its your choice NOW but you get the consequences depending on that choice in the hereafter. *
Me: I actually need reasons to believe something. Saying because God says so is like saying Simon says so. Why in the **** does Simon say stop playing with yourself when it doesn't concern him?
See, whatever you do it doesn't concern him but is linked to him. If you do good it will only count towards you, if you do evil then it will count against you. He has given temptations as trials, if you succeed hey your on your way to the golden staircase of heaven. If you fail, well its the pits of hell.
Me: Oh, I'm all for waiting but the way I figure it, sex within the bounds of marriage is not going to be happening any time soon so I might as well do something about it. so for some it's just a face floating around in our head while we play with out God-given toys, truly utilizing out potential.
Ok, the mere thoughts you have of lusting for someone is bad because your imagining them naked. Lust being one of the seven deadly sins (fellow christians would agree)
Me: Use your willpower and stop preaching. I personally think the guy can give more pleasure to the woman if he's experienced and vice versa and if not through pre-marital sex, then through mastubration so that they know the functionings of their body and can be more appreciative to the other's needs. One thing you should know is that if guys have it all saved up, then they're going to come within a very short time and the wife will be having no fun.
I'm not preaching, as I said its my opinion based upon the guideline he decreed. To each action there are consequences. There weren't 125,000 prophets sent down for no reason to teach us the way of life and us not follow it. Even for chritianity Jesus came in the form of God, he left a clear cut guidelines.
If your talking about a guy coming, the first time is usually the shortest time for him if he's a virgin regardless of masturbating or not.
Last thing though, how do you figure it's a sin? Smoking is more sinful because it can kill but masturbation has never killed anybody I don't think, unless, of course, you can tell me otherwise.
** As I said to each action there are consequences. You smoke, you harm your God given body. How do I figure masturbation is a sin? Impure thoughts, lusting for someone else whom you can't have or choose not to have. Its just a simple matter of right and wrong. The guidelines are given, remember only guidelines, not orders. For those god fearing individuals they will try to get on his good side and for those who don't give a damn we'll see where this will all lead them to. Ultimately, your decision will be decidied in the end where you belong.
Tell you what Sarah, I'm gonna dig up some sources because I myself would like to have some proof instead of having someone spew facts without backup. I'll have it for ya within a few days about Masturbation being a sin. Now if you have any further questions or remarks by all means continue.**
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Jitna Diya Sarkar Nay Mujko, Itni Meri Auqat Nahi, Yeh Saab Tumhara Karam Hai Aqa, Mujh Mein Aisi Koi Baat Nahin.
Love happens once . . .
