LOL Your second statement reveals just how much you have studied Islam. Everything you know about Islam probably came from your good old FOX Network or the like.
Since you didn’t explain what did Jesus PBUH meant by “Lord is one” and “God alone” the obvious explanation would be that there are two different Jesus PBUH talking in bible. One the true Jesus who preached monotheism and the other added much later by Constantine and his cohorts. This confirms Quran’s statement that you have polluted Bible with your own versions of what Jesus PBUH said.
Nope! THAT is a lie. Everyone knows only a selected part of these manuscripts was included in what is now called Bible.
But these are priests that we are talking about aren’t we? Did they not accept Jesus (PBUH) as their saviour when they became priests? And I am sure they did. They why do you say that they have to repent?
That’s a twisted statement! So now 1+1+1= 1?
Your copy paste didn’t work. You still have to produce one verse where Jesus (PBUH) **directly **claims divinity, says that he is God, says that he should be worshiped.
Ok sorry I couldnt take part as my post vanished from the thread...
Ok my question is According to Christians Jesus is son of God and Marry.
Hence this means God must have married Marry at some stage before Jesus came to being. I would like to know if there are any details about this marriage?
Secondly Marry then married Joseph. When did God actually divorced Marry to marry Joseph? Does this mean in Christianity women can have upto to husbands?
Very simple way of salvation......Do whatever you want to do and then Jesus(PBUH) will do salvation for you..... You people are living in which world??????
And also please solve the matter with Ahmadiya people first....
Do whatever you want and then do something thereby getting royal pardon.. this concept is part of every religion that exists today why single out christianity.. it's part of islam part of hinduism .. only exception is Buddhism there you can't evade the consequences of your action
Do whatever you want and then do something thereby getting royal pardon.. this concept is part of every religion that exists today why single out christianity.. it's part of islam part of hinduism .. only exception is Buddhism there you can't evade the consequences of your action
Where in Islam it is written that do whatever you want because Muhammad (PBUH) is there for your salvation????But the majority of christians believe that Jesus(PBUH) has given his life for their sins..
Ok sorry I couldnt take part as my post vanished from the thread...
Ok my question is According to Christians Jesus is son of God and Marry.
Hence this means God must have married Marry at some stage before Jesus came to being. I would like to know if there are any details about this marriage?
Secondly Marry then married Joseph. When did God actually divorced Marry to marry Joseph? Does this mean in Christianity women can have upto to husbands?
Hello there, Divorce is prohibited in Christianity. "Till death us do part", remember? So Mary married Joseph without divorcing God. :( (Nausobillah)
Mary concieved Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit of God. She wasn't married to God. She married Joseph. Argue with God about it.
So basically, in light of the FACT that Islam contradicts God's word, history and eyewiness accounts, some still won't admit the facts. You have been told the truth and will be accountable for it when you are judged of God. I pray that you will repent of these false teachings and turn to Christ Jesus for salvation, believing His word, that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins. That was the reason that He came to the earth. He is coming again to rule and to reign forever. Before He comes, satan is going to send an imposter (the anti christ). I believe that this antichrist will make war with the muslims and use that as a way to kill millions of people. The muslim countries are going to attack Isreal and the true God, the God of Israel will fight for them and defeat them. The stories from the koran have been taken from the bible and twisted to create a new religion called islam, in order to decieve millions of people. Then it was spread by the sword in order to force people to believe because the people knew who that it was false and that the bible was the truth. Those poor people were your ancestors. They believed in the God of the bible, you should too.
Mary concieved Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit of God. She wasn't married to God. She married Joseph. Argue with God about it.
So basically, in light of the FACT that Islam contradicts God's word, history and eyewiness accounts, some still won't admit the facts. You have been told the truth and will be accountable for it when you are judged of God. I pray that you will repent of these false teachings and turn to Christ Jesus for salvation, believing His word, that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins. That was the reason that He came to the earth. He is coming again to rule and to reign forever. Before He comes, satan is going to send an imposter (the anti christ). I believe that this antichrist will make war with the muslims and use that as a way to kill millions of people. The muslim countries are going to attack Isreal and the true God, the God of Israel will fight for them and defeat them. The stories from the koran have been taken from the bible and twisted to create a new religion called islam, in order to decieve millions of people. Then it was spread by the sword in order to force people to believe because the people knew who that it was false and that the bible was the truth. Those poor people were your ancestors. They believed in the God of the bible, you should too.
We aren't here to listen to your ranting. If you can't counter my arguments, just zip it!
The FACT that you are unable to answer anything I put in front of you is a clear indication that you are a blind follower of a so called religion which has only one requirement: "Do as the priest says or your going to hell". To become a Christian you don't have to "turn to Christ Jesus" (PBUH) but the real requirement is to kill your common sense, to blindfold yourself from the baselessness of the Christian belief.
Your FOX News aquired knowledge about Islam just makes you look stupid. Cut down on the dope and FOX network!
We aren't here to listen to your ranting. If you can't counter my arguments, just zip it!
The FACT that you are unable to answer anything I put in front of you is a clear indication that you are a blind follower of a so called religion which has only one requirement: "Do as the priest says or your going to hell".
Wrong. We have to obey God's word and do what it says that we need to do to be saved. It says that me MUST accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and Believe that He died on the cross and rose from the dead in order to be saved. The koran directly contradicts this because it wasn't written by God and the purpose is to lead people to hell.
To become a Christian you don't have to "turn to Christ Jesus"
Wrong. Jesus Christ is the CENTER of Christianity. Jesus Himself said "I AM the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, except through me." He also said "He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life." He also said John"He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
*The wrath of God is eternal Hell. *
(PBUH) but the real requirement is to kill your common sense, to blindfold yourself from the baselessness of the Christian belief.
Actually, that's what muslims do when they ignore the FACT that the bible was written by God first through the eyewitnesses and has remained preserved all of these years. Secular history also supports that biblical accounts and contradicts the korans accounts. Mohammud took the bible hundreds of years later and twisted it up to change it all around. If you want to believe him over the eyewitnesses, that's your right, but your kidding yourself if you say that I am the one who is blinded. That's killing common sense. Not to meantion why islam spread in the first place. It wasn't because of persuasion, it was because of force. Force doesn't dictate truth.
Your FOX News aquired knowledge about Islam just makes you look stupid. Cut down on the dope and FOX network!
*Fox is awesome, but it's not my source about islam. I honestly don't need to know nor do I care to know more about islam than I know. All I need to know is that it didn't come from God. If it had, it wouldn't have denied the truth of who Jesus actually was and is and completely contradicted God's true word, the bible. Hatred is murder in God's eyes. God is LOVE not Hate. Does the koran even meantion that? *
1Jo 3:15 By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. By this we know love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
Where in Islam it is written that do whatever you want because Muhammad (PBUH) is there for your salvation????But the majority of christians believe that Jesus(PBUH) has given his life for their sins..
The bible does NOT say that. That's a lie.
Ro 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Jesus allowed other people to openly proclaim His Deity. When He did proclaim it, it did it in such a way to give the doubters a way out. By saying the phrase “I AM” He is actually claiming to be God. Primary example:
Mr 8:27 ¶ Now Jesus and His disciples went out to the towns of Caesarea Philippi; and on the road He asked His disciples, saying to them, “Who do men say thatI am?” So they answered, “John the Baptist; but some say, Elijah; and others, one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Peter answered and said to Him, “You are the Christ.” Then He strictly warned them that they should tell no one about Him. And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Jesus’s name is Emmanuel which LITERALLY means “God With Us”
Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. {shall call: or, thou, O virgin, shalt call}
Mt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Note: Immanuel and Emmanuel are the same name. Immanuel was translated from Hebrew and Emmanuel was translated from Greek, which accounts for the spelling difference.
The bible says that Jesus:
Is from everlasting
created all things
knows all things
Is one with the Father and the Spirit
Is the Great I AM of the Old Tesiment which is the NAME that God gave moses when He was called to set the Jews free from slavery.
Is the King of kings and Lord of lords
Jesus allowed Himself to be worshipped and NEVER rebuked His followers for doing so.
Jesus forgave sins
The bible calls Him the Lord Jesus Christ indicating His deity. “The Lord” is a title ONLY attributed to God in the bible.
Fulfilled
Jesus Christ is God
He was worshipped by His followers (eyewitnesses) and He Never told them not to, but welcomed it: His disciples in the ship when He walked on water and caused the wind to cease and caused Peter to walk on the water with Him:
Mt 14:33 Then those who were in the boat came and worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God.” His disciples worshipped Him after He rose from the dead:
Mt 28:9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, “Rejoice!” So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me.” After the resurrection, the disciples worshipped Jesus, but Thomas doubted:
Mt 28:17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
[size=3]Thomas:
Joh 20:27 Then He said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him, **“My Lord and my God!”**Jesus said to him, “Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Jesus never tells ANYONE not to worship Him:
[/size]Joh 9:35 ¶ Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, “Do you believe in the Son of God?”
He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?”
And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.” Then he said, “Lord, I believe!” And he worshiped Him. And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”
The Kings that came to witness His birth:
Mt 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh The ruler:
Mt 9:18 ¶ While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.
The leper whom Jesus healed:
Mt 8:2 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. {everlasting: Heb. the days of eternity}
(KJV) This prophecy is of Christ’s first comming. His Goings forth have been from everlasting because Christ Jesus is God.
**Jesus Christ is one with the Father. He is God. **
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are all one God
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
(KJV) Jesus declares Himself to be the great I AM of the Old Testiment
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
(KJV)
I am is God. There is only one God. That God has three parts.
Ex 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
(KJV)
Mt 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. God’s plurality is found in Genesis
Ge 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(KJV) John declares Christ Jesus to be God
Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
(KJV)
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
(KJV) John declares that the world was made by Him (Jesus Christ)
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. All things were made by Him and He was in the beginning with God (Father)
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Conclusion: Jesus Christ is God. Not a God but the God of the bible. God has three parts. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. All are equal yet the Son is submissive to the Father and the Holy Spirit is submissive to the Son. Jesus Christ was an EXAMPLE for us. He died on the cross for our sins so that we could go to heaven and be forgiven of our sins. He shed His blood for us.
Jesus was a staunch believer in the oneness of God. He came to re-enforce the old commandments. He said:
"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets; I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of heaven". (Matthew 5:17-19)
God conlmanded the Israelites, according to the Old Testament:
"I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Thou shalt have none other gods before me ... Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath or in the waters beneath the earth". (Deuteronomy 5:6-8)
Over and over again, the Old Testament has very explicitly and emphatically enjoined belief in one God:
"the Lord our God is one Lord". (Deuteronomy 6:4)
If Trinity, which is so much stressed by Christianity today, had its basis on facts, it would have been explicitly stated in the Old Testament. On the contrary, the teachings of Moses urge us to believe in one God. Jesus earnestly championed for this unity of God, as the New Testament quotes:
"And Jesus answered him. The first of all the commandments is, Hear O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength. This is the first commandment". (Mark 12:29-30)
Moreover, Jesus said:
"And behold, one came and said unto him, 'Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?' And he said unto him. 'Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God, but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments'". (Matthew 19:16-17)
Thus, Jesus strongly believed in the absolute oneness of God, and enjoined others to believe in it.
*"HE DOES NOT BEGET" *
In the Bible, it is obvious that the words, "children of your Father", have been used metaphorically.
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
"That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven; for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust". (Matthew 5:44-45)
Jesus was not a physical son of God. The Bible refers to Jesus as the son of David:
"The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham". (Matthew 1:1)
At another place, Jesus presented himself as the son of man:
"And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head". (Matthew 8:20)
In the present day Bible, not only Jesus but also Jacob has been called the son of God. Jacob, moreover, has been referred to as "first born" son.
"And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my first born:" (Exodus 4:22)
Jesus was not a partner in the Godhead, as was not Jacob. Both of them were beloved prophets of God. "NOR IS HE BEGOTTEN"
That Jesus was born without a father does not make him a son of God in any physical sense. Adam had neither father nor mother. The King of Salem, according to the Bible, was born without father and without mother.
"To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually". (Hebrew 7:2-3)
Mary concieved Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit of God. She wasn't married to God. She married Joseph. Argue with God about it.
okk,,,sorry my understanding about Christianity must be slightly week. Would you kindly give slightly more informaition on this?
What exactly is Holy Spirit?
Mary wasnt married to God but she did concieve his child? This seems slightly odd.
Why would Joseph actually marry as women who has already concieved a baby from God? Perhaps no one know the answer about this but I would love to hear your comments.
What exactly is God in your opinion? Is he also a human like Jesus (peace be upon him)?
According my very limited knowledge I thought women egg can only be concieved by a physical form of a sperm. And if God is not physical (no one knows) or if Holy Spirit is not physical then where did the spern came from?
Now I would humbly clarify that these question in no mean asked to characterised the Mary mother of Jesus (Peace be upon him). She is as holy to us as she is to Christians.
Your ignorance is perplexing. You are really dumb. Refrain from commenting on something you haven’t studied yet, makes you look like a retard!
Exodus 21:15:“*Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.” *Thats very Interesting!
Exodus 22:18: “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.” This calls for the execution of all “witches.” Kill people of other religions.
Leviticus 20:13: “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. they must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” This calls for the execution of men who engage in at least some form of same-sex behavior.
Psalms 79:6: “Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.” This is a call to God to commit genocide against persons of other faiths.
Revelation 2:9: “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Here, Jesus “claims the name of Jews for himself and his church,” and is condemning other Jews as followers of Satan.
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Psalms 149:1-9:** "Praise the LORD! Sing to the LORD a new song. Sing his praises in the assembly of the faithful. O Israel, rejoice in your Maker. O people of Jerusalem, exult in your King. Praise his name with dancing, accompanied by tambourine and harp. For the LORD delights in his people; he crowns the humble with salvation. Let the faithful rejoice in this honor. Let them sing for joy as they lie on their beds. Let the praises of God be in their mouths, and a sharp sword in their hands – to execute vengeance on the nations and punishment on the peoples, to bind their kings with shackles and their leaders with iron chains, to execute the judgment written against them. This is the glory of his faithful ones. Praise the LORD!" And Islam was spread by the sword?
Jeremiah 51:20-26:**“*You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD. “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. “As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem,” says the LORD. “Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy,” says the LORD. “I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out,” says the LORD.” *Cool!
Proverbs 29:21:"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be stubborn." He He!
Deuteronomy 22:28-29:“If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.” Rape made easy … So the woman is going to stay stuck with the man who raped her for the rest of her life?
Isaiah 14:21:*“Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and possess the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants.” *Yeh! Kill the sons of sinners.
(I can go on and on)
FEEL THE LOVE!!!
Ofcourse Quran contradicts this senseless belief. It looks like you yourself are confused about your faith. You are required to: 1. Quit sinning for your salvation or 2. Accept prophet Jesus as a means of your salvation. What do you do?
That’s a very bold statement. A delusion. Proof?
LOL! True, because Bible was written by men.
No I mean :
“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” [Deuteronomy 6:4]
“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29]
“No one is good–except God alone.” [Mark 10:18]
I am going to repeat my question.
You said that the pedophile preists should repent their sins in order to have salvation. Right? How the $&*&@ is that possible? They already accept prophet Jesus (PBUH) as a means of their salvation. Why repent they are going to haven whether they rape a boy or not.
You are really annoying! Thats my question dummy! How is Prophet Jesus (PBUH) + Holy Ghost (what’s that?) + Original god = One god. That’s a Hindu belief. You are tuning Hindu now?
I am gonna ignore your further rants just to make my post smaller.
The real problem is that you absolutely believe Bible to be the word of God. That’s absurd. Jesus actually taught to worship one true God. You said we aren’t going to do that we are going to worship 3 gods. You also said we are going to change the Bible to suit our wishes. That’s the truth!!! God doesn’t make mistakes, while Bible has very few statement which do not have some kind of an error. Twenty five thousand scientific and mathematical errors are in the English King James Christian Bible. Check some of them out and enjoy!
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Joshua 10:12-13:** “Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies…” Here, the sun was believed to have stopped moving. This speaks again of a stationary earth and moving sun. The moon also stopped moving.
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Chronicles 16:30:** “…the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.” This is one of many passages in the Bible which describe the earth as firm, stable and immovable.
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Psalms 104:** “Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.” This means that the earth is permanently fixed in place, does not move, and is positioned on top of foundations. LOL!
You talk about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to have copied from Bible when infact bible was copied from ancient Pagan religions. Ancient Pagan religions in the Mediterranean area and throughout the Middle East taught that the universe was quite tiny. These included the religions of ancient Egypt, Babylonia, Canaan, etc. The Earth was more or less flat, like a dinner plate. Mountains around the edges held up a rigid metallic dome which formed the sky. Angels pushed the sun, moon, planets and stars across the underside of the dome of the sky on a daily basis. This is the view of the universe that the writers of the Bible appear to have adopted from these other Pagan religions.
I can go on and on but you are going to have a difficult time answering it!
okk,,,sorry my understanding about Christianity must be slightly week. Would you kindly give slightly more informaition on this?
What exactly is Holy Spirit?
According to God's word, the bible, God is one God, but exists in three persons. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. The bible says that these three are one.
Mary wasnt married to God but she did concieve his child? This seems slightly odd.
That's what the bible says.
Why would Joseph actually marry as women who has already concieved a baby from God?
There was no physical relationship between God and Mary. He was concieved by God's Holy Spirit. God allowed her to marry Joseph and have kids by Joseph, BUT not until AFTER Jesus was born.
Perhaps no one know the answer about this but I would love to hear your comments.
What exactly is God in your opinion? Is he also a human like Jesus (peace be upon him)?
The Holy Spirit (although equal) submits to Jesus, Jesus (although equal) submits to the Father.
Jesus is the only part of the Godhead that became flesh. The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. The Father is a Spirit but different than the Holy Spirit. We can only get to the Father through His Son Jesus. Jesus said that He is one with the Father and the bible says that the Father, Son and Spirit are one.
According my very limited knowledge I thought women egg can only be concieved by a physical form of a sperm. And if God is not physical (no one knows) or if Holy Spirit is not physical then where did the spern came from?
If God is able to create all things, then certainly He could get around this problem with His power. God created mary and all that exists from nothing, He somehow did it. I can't answer how He did it, but I believe He did because His word says so.
Now I would humbly clarify that these question in no mean asked to characterised the Mary mother of Jesus (Peace be upon him). She is as holy to us as she is to Christians.
We love Mary, although Mary is not God. She was a good woman. She is in heaven with the Lord now. We have great respect for her, but she was a sinner and needed a Savior just like the rest of us. Jesus her Son, was that Savior, just as He is for ALL of mankind.
*ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? *
There are some things that you should know:
1.** Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:**
Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.
Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:
Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."
Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.
3.** If you will confess to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, accept Him as Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead you will be saved.**
Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."
Joh 1:12 Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”
You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.
Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins? Are you willing to turn from your sins to Jesus Christ for Salvation
If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please humble yourself before God and pray this prayer to Him from your heart:
"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."
If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.
Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism
Why did Jesus come to Earth? Simple. To spread the message of the the One Allah. If I died today, I can't guarantee I'd go to heaven. However, if I worshipped someone other than Allah and died without repenting, I can guarantee I'd go to hell.
Thank you for your reply. I am still slightly confused by what is Holy Spirit? I understand you said God has three forms:
God the father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
I also get from your reply that
God is spiritual
Son is Physical
but
Holy Spirit is Spirtual but same same has God's spirit. Please clarify this point as it is not making much sense to me.
Why did Jesus come to Earth? Simple. To spread the message of the the One Allah. If I died today, I can't guarantee I'd go to heaven. However, if I worshipped someone other than Allah and died without repenting, I can guarantee I'd go to hell.
Jesus Christ's own words are:
Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
"For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved."He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Jesus predicts His death and resurrection after 3 days:
Mt 12:40 "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
The crucifixion written by the eyewitness who was Jesus's disciple John:
Mt 27:38 Then two robbers were crucified with Him, one on the right and another on the left. 39 And those who passed by blasphemed Him, wagging their heads 40 and saying, "You who destroy the temple and build it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross."
41 Likewise the chief priests also, mocking with the scribes and elders, said,
42 "He saved others; Himself He cannot save. If He is the King of Israel, let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe Him.
43 "He trusted in God; let Him deliver Him now if He will have Him; for He said, 'I am the Son of God.'" 44 Even the robbers who were crucified with Him reviled Him with the same thing. 45 Now from the sixth hour until the ninth hour there was darkness over all the land. 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" 47 Some of those who stood there, when they heard that, said, "This Man is calling for Elijah!" 48 Immediately one of them ran and took a sponge, filled it with sour wine and put it on a reed, and offered it to Him to drink. 49 The rest said, "Let Him alone; let us see if Elijah will come to save Him." 50 ¶ And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. 51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split,
52 and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; 53 and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many. 54 So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, "Truly this was the Son of God!"
The Resurrection written by the Eyewitness Matthew:
Mt 28:5 But the angel answered and said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 "He is not here; for He is risen, as He said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. 7 "And go quickly and tell His disciples that He is risen from the dead, and indeed He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him. Behold, I have told you."
8 So they went out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy, and ran to bring His disciples word. 9 And as they went to tell His disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Rejoice!" So they came and held Him by the feet and worshiped Him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, "Do not be afraid. Go and tell My brethren to go to Galilee, and there they will see Me." 11 ¶ Now while they were going, behold, some of the guard came into the city and reported to the chief priests all the things that had happened. 12 When they had assembled with the elders and consulted together, they gave a large sum of money to the soldiers, 13 saying, "Tell them, 'His disciples came at night and stole Him away while we slept.' 14 "And if this comes to the governor's ears, we will appease him and make you secure." 15 So they took the money and did as they were instructed; and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day. 16 ¶ Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, to the mountain which Jesus had appointed for them. 17 When they saw Him, they worshiped Him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 "teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.
Thank you for your reply. I am still slightly confused by what is Holy Spirit? I understand you said God has three forms:
God the father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit
I also get from your reply that
God is spiritual
Son is Physical
but
Holy Spirit is Spirtual but same same has God's spirit. Please clarify this point as it is not making much sense to me.
The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. The only part of God tha is physical is Jesus's humanity. (Physical Body)
Another name for Jesus is "The Word" Jesus Christ is the Word of God.
The bible was written by the eyewitnesses who knew Jesus personally, walked with Him and were taught by Him. The Holy Spirit wrote the bible through these men, therefore, anything that contradicts what they say in these books is a lie.
The Apostle John (One of Jesus closest followers) writes:
Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Himnothingwas made that was made.......
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word became fleshand dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
The conception of Jesus was through the Spirit of God:
Mt 1:18 ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.
God has three parts we are to proclaim salvation in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit:
Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the** Father*, and of the **Son, and of the **Holy Ghost:*
The Holy Spirit is God's Spirit. The only part of God tha is physical is Jesus's humanity. (Physical Body)
Another name for Jesus is "The Word" Jesus Christ is the Word of God.
The bible was written by the eyewitnesses who knew Jesus personally, walked with Him and were taught by Him. The Holy Spirit wrote the bible through these men, therefore, anything that contradicts what they say in these books is a lie.
The Apostle John (One of Jesus closest followers) writes:
Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through Him, and without Himnothingwas made that was made.......
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him.
11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word became fleshand dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
The conception of Jesus was through the Spirit of God:
Mt 1:18 ¶ Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit.
God has three parts we are to proclaim salvation in the name of the Father, Son and Spirit:
Mt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the** Father*, and of the **Son, and of the **Holy Ghost:*
Ok...I think I have slightly grasped it.
God is Spirit but he also has a spirit.
Just to clarify this further, I am not sure what is the concept of SOUL in Christianity but does God's spirit mean his SOUL?
LOL! What was her sin? She gave birth to Prophet Jesus without a father? That’s what Christianity is all about. It considers all the prophets sinners. It is a general understanding among the Islamic scholars that Christianity is the most illogical and baseless religion.
Apart from all the inconsistencies and errors I’v posted (And there are countless more. Talk about a devine revelation) any sane person needs something on the sides to join this cult called Christianity, like money. And this is exactly what Christian missionaries do. They are like vultures circling around the helpless and poor. They offer them money and the promise of more money. I’v seen how they work.
You’ve been living in a cave. Your allegation of Islam spreading by the force bites the dust because Islam today is the fastest growing religion. No one is forcing these people. They are coming to Islam because they feel they should become a better person, a better human rather than getting a fake ticket to haven, these people try to be good. And the funny thing is that the majority of those who revert to Islam are in the west. So, its obvious that panic is spreading through the Christian higher ups. At this rate the Christian cult is going to vanish from this planet.
It seems that what ever proof I provide you, your delusion is never going to end.
“As to those who reject faith, it is the same to them whether you warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)”. (Al-Baqara, 6-7)
Your second statement reveals just how much you have studied Islam. Everything you know about Islam probably came from your good old FOX Network or the like.
That’s a twisted statement! So now 1+1+1= 1?
You are really dumb. Refrain from commenting on something you haven’t studied yet, makes you look like a retard!