While it is accepted practice for Muslims to feel bad when their rights are violated in a non-muslim country, why is it that the same muslims do not clamour for minority rights in muslim majority countries. While most of the muslim who have settled abroad want secularism in the country, they would want Sharia to be implemented in their homeland. Why this double standard…
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Because real Sharia Law is secular. Sharia demands that the minorities in Islamic countries be treated according to laws of their religion. Sharia provides many examples of that happening in Muslim history.
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Turkey, Indonesia, Egypt … need more? 
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meaning of secular is what? the western meaning is different.
western meaning of secular is almost an atheist approach in terms of laws, no religion is mixed with law. unlike india which is not secular according to the western meaning.
with india, personal laws are according to the religion you belong to right?
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religion = problem :D aiwan drama..
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The definition of secularism (in practical sense) is confusing for many people. Secularism in synonym to being almost anti-religious at one end and on the other end it mean indifferent to or tolerant to all religions.
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90% of Muslims cannot be secular.
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90% of Muslims cannot be secular.
100% of Muslims cannot be secular. A person can either be Muslim or secular. This applies to ALL religions.
The topic is about secular or religious system for a COUNTRY.
About the topic, well there is no 'Islamic' country as of now either. Many laws and regulations which are seen as 'secular' in western countries are actually in line with Shariah. Effectively, many western countries are more Shariah compliant than the so called Islamic countries in terms of provision of justice, equity, welfare and security to people.
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^France is totally secular right?
in the US, there was one person that said that even the "under God" in the pledge of allegiance should be taken out. why should atheists have to say it. :D
don't think muslim countries would allow that, would they?
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I believe that pluralistic secularism, in the long run, is a more deadly poison than straightforward persecution.
Islam and secularism - Wikipedia <--------- this might help you to give some of the best reasons !!!
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The definition of secularism (in practical sense) is confusing for many people. Secularism in synonym to being almost anti-religious at one end and on the other end it mean indifferent to or tolerant to all religions.
let us go with the basic definition of respecting others' beliefs. Why is it so difficult for muslims to understand this, while they clamor for respect of their beliefs in non-muslim countries. I know I am stirring a hornet's nest here, but still...
Re: Why is'nt there a secular Islamic country
100% of Muslims cannot be secular. A person can either be Muslim or secular. This applies to ALL religions.
The topic is about secular or religious system for a COUNTRY.
About the topic, well there is no 'Islamic' country as of now either. Many laws and regulations which are seen as 'secular' in western countries are actually in line with Shariah. Effectively, many western countries are more Shariah compliant than the so called Islamic countries in terms of provision of justice, equity, welfare and security to people.
Is it not a lame explanation. That there is no "Islamic" country in this world. Why is'nt there one... Why are non-muslims be able to become more sharia compliant than their muslim counterparts.
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I've noticed that for many people, Shariah is more about the segregation of sexes and the wearing of the Burqa rather than **Justice and the Rule of Law. **If we consider the latter, the secular Western countries are much more shariah compliant than the supposedly "Islamic nations" such as Saudi Arabia and Iran.
The answer to your question depends on your perspective. Some would say that there can be no secular Islamic nations. Others, like me would cite this as a reason for the current situation of the Muslims...
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While it is accepted practice for Muslims to feel bad when their rights are violated in a non-muslim country, why is it that the same muslims do not clamour for minority rights in muslim majority countries. While most of the muslim who have settled abroad want secularism in the country, they would want Sharia to be implemented in their homeland. Why this double standard...
an incorrect, presumptuous and sweeping statement.
because what happens in yemen is not my business, its yemenis business, do u want us muslims to go and demonstrate in front of yemeni embassy every day? I as an american am concerned about my rights, yes I want muslim countries where non muslims minorities are illtreated to straighten out, so u want me to alternate camping out in front of different embassies every weekend? :)
what about ppl born in UK and US, or their kids, what ties do they have to their grandparents country,let alone some country in middle east they have not been even in the same time zone as.
ridiculous statements, there is no double standard, a small number of jackasses who just fell off the turnip truck and have idiotic opinions do not represent everyone, they were idiots in their home countries, they are idiots when they are abroad.
its statements like these used by hillbilly uber right winger types saying oh well if non muslims cant build a house of worship in saudi arabia then muslims can build a mosque here, because well as we all know a 20 something african american muslim who has been here for umpteen generations calls the shots on laws and enforcement in saudi arabia.
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The West/Secular societies have much cleaning up to do and they preach peace and yada yada…
and Why is it that the West, has to label or claim every other country a human rights hazard..when they are equally responsible for much of the things happening in world due to meddling.
There are countless examples from the last decade where these “westerners” need to be set straight and need to look in the mirror and fix their own problems.
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let us go with the basic definition of respecting others' beliefs. Why is it so difficult for muslims to understand this, while they clamor for respect of their beliefs in non-muslim countries. I know I am stirring a hornet's nest here, but still...
My post already clarified there is no reality in basic definition.
Even so called secular countries are not abiding with basic definition.
Laws of these countries are either based largely on one or other religion or even intolerant to religion. None goes with in par with 'basic' definition.
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What is bad with west is a different topic. Basic respect for beliefs is something that is important to all human beings. While everybody goes hammer and tongs about how bad the west is, but we all have to agree that there is basic respect of beliefs in the west. True it might have declined over the years, but if you compare that to a typical muslim country it is much better. While it is easy to talk about the west should fix its problem, why is there no such indignation when something worse happens near our homes…
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an incorrect, presumptuous and sweeping statement.
because what happens in yemen is not my business, its yemenis business, do u want us muslims to go and demonstrate in front of yemeni embassy every day? I as an american am concerned about my rights, yes I want muslim countries where non muslims minorities are illtreated to straighten out, so u want me to alternate camping out in front of different embassies every weekend? :)
I am not asking you to go and protest in front of embassies. My point is "Why is there no secular Islamic Country". While individuals should be more concerned about their own rights, it is also important that we feel others too can have rights on their own. Your point that you protest about American policies because you are an American, it becomes very difficult to imagine why there is so much indignation for what is happening in Palestine. I am not specifically talking about you, but in general. It is wrong to stereotype, but that is the general trend that I have seen here.
what about ppl born in UK and US, or their kids, what ties do they have to their grandparents country,let alone some country in middle east they have not been even in the same time zone as.
Ask these people born in other countries where their loyalties lie and am quite sure that most of them would relate to the land of their forefathers rather than the land in which they are currently staying.
ridiculous statements, there is no double standard, a small number of jackasses who just fell off the turnip truck and have idiotic opinions do not represent everyone, they were idiots in their home countries, they are idiots when they are abroad.
I agree but these are the voices that are being heard.
its statements like these used by hillbilly uber right winger types saying oh well if non muslims cant build a house of worship in saudi arabia then muslims can build a mosque here, because well as we all know a 20 something african american muslim who has been here for umpteen generations calls the shots on laws and enforcement in saudi arabia.
Simple question... When there was some issue regarding the Prophet's(pbuh) picture was published, muslims all over the world rallied to protest against that. Why isnt there a similar kind of protest from muslims who seriously believe that secularism is better when minority rights are denied in muslim countries.
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Despite given answer above in many posts you keep saying th same thing? 
All your points have been covered above. Did you take time to read those?
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Point is if you do not agree with what others are saying, you try to act smart…
Let me repeat the question to you.. Let me try and make it simple for you.
“Why is it that you find muslims clamoring for equality in the west, while they deny the basic rights in Islamic Countries”
Read the above line again. If you have anything intelligent to say then please do, otherwise you know what to do.