One simple reason. All are equal in the eyes of God in Islam. Hinduism has slavery as a spiritual part of the religion. No one can disagree with these facts.
Salaam Bro Salman
Doesn't the Quran instruct Muslims to call to Islam with wisdom and grace?
Insulting other religions serves little purpose other than discouraging followers of that faith from showing positive interest in Islam and results in them hurling insults at the Deen too.
Salman .... Islam in India was not spread by the Mughals, etc and other warriors .. but by the peaceful teachings of the sufi saints .....
proves that this face of Islam is not longer visible as conversions are no longer happening on such a large scale ..
ponder on that my friend.
Salman,
Ahemedies and Shie's are equal in Islam?
Shie's and Sunnies are they Equal?
Aghakhani and Muslims are equal?
You must be joking or taking Drugs
If someone had posted a thread in this forum stating ‘Islam is the worst religion and ______ is the best religion’, wouldn’t many of us Muslims be deeply hurt because to each person their own religion is immensely precious? Just as I am extremely tired of having to explain to every Tom Dick and Harry that Islam is not a fanatical religion, it does accord females many rights, and not all us Muslims are obsessed with spreading terror through the barrel of an AK/47, why doubt that Hindus too feel deeply hurt and offended when encountering stereotypes/misinformation regarding their religion? There is no difference between them doing it and us doing it - the hurt caused against the individual is always the same.
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Even though hindus come into contact with muslims the most as compared to any religion, yet I find them to be the most ignorant about Islam, and its teachings. I guess its something they eat
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying.
M_S and RUndra....very right.
Sufis where to one who amazed them with their believe and their love to GOD, ALLAH!
Baba Farid, Awlia, Bulley Shah, Chiragh Delavi, Bakthiar Kaki, Nawab Sahib, Moinuddin Chisti, etc etc.!
*“Ishq bhi ho Hijaab mein husn bhi ho Hijaab mein. Ya tu khud Aaskhaar ho ya mujh ko Aaskhaar kar.”
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People, People!
What Salman is saying is not wrong. I can understand your concern toward the statement Salman has made, but you need to realise the situation here.
What I would suggest to you mAd_ScIeNtIsT & Nadia_H is to read the posts we have received from Hindu people on Religion and specially Islam and you will agree with Salman that he hasn't been unfair to Indians.
No matter how much prove you give to anand & Rani, they will never be able to see the truth in it.
As far as honestali is concern. He/She/It has no brains to take in the information you give him/her/it. Sorry as I don't know what gender you are.
Salman,
I hate to disagree but slavery IS allowed in Islam
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Originally posted by mbmagsi:
**People, People!
What Salman is saying is not wrong. I can understand your concern toward the statement Salman has made, but you need to realise the situation here.
What I would suggest to you mAd_ScIeNtIsT & Nadia_H is to read the posts we have received from Hindu people on Religion and specially Islam and you will agree with Salman that he hasn't been unfair to Indians.
No matter how much prove you give to anand & Rani, they will never be able to see the truth in it.
As far as honestali is concern. He/She/It has no brains to take in the information you give him/her/it. Sorry as I don't know what gender you are.**
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Your post clearly shows how tolerant and accepting u are, it speaks for itself..with your kind of thinking nobody can blame non-muslims for calling muslims hatemongers and intolerant. I have yet to see genuine toleration and respect for other faiths in any of the posts in this forum.
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Originally posted by mbmagsi:
What I would suggest to you mAd_ScIeNtIsT & Nadia_H is to read the posts we have received from Hindu people on Religion and specially Islam and you will agree with Salman that he hasn't been unfair to Indians.
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I understand what you mean, but consider the example of the Prophet (SAWS) himself. The polytheists of Mecca repeatedly used to hurl crude insults about Islam, but the Prophet (SAWS) never responded in this way. He always treated them with patience and kindness and eventually many of them came to respect him for this and entered Islam.
This is a hate post like hate sites on internet and I strongly condemn it.
This is not the message of Islam but of some fanaticism under cover.
- [quote] Originally posted by mbmagsi:* ** What I would suggest to you mAd_ScIeNtIsT & Nadia_H is to read the posts we have received from Hindu people on Religion and specially Islam and you will agree with Salman that he hasn't been unfair to Indians.
No matter how much prove you give to anand & Rani, they will never be able to see the truth in it.
As far as honestali is concern. He/She/It has no brains to take in the information you give him/her/it. Sorry as I don't know what gender you are.**
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Mbmagsi, it is precisely because I have read some of Anand's posts that I felt compelled to make the statements that I did to Salman. Please read page 3 of the thread "Islam and Peace cont." to read my latest post there to Anand - I am very well aware of the comments being made regarding Islam. Disinformation and stereotypes exist regarding Islam, but how is it helping the situation any if we do the same towards other religions?
If a non Muslim had posted a thread on this forum stating "Reasons why Islam is the WORST religion", wouldn't most of us be deeply hurt? Doesn't the same happen for Hindus when someone states that about their religion, which in their eyes is extremely precious?
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If a non Muslim had posted a thread on this forum stating "Reasons why Islam is the WORST religion", wouldn't most of us be deeply hurt? **
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Nop, as if enough has not been said already.
A little more wont hurt a bit
- [quote] Originally posted by Abdali:* ** Nop, as if enough has not been said already.** If enough has been stated already to degrade Islam, and you and I as Muslims know exactly how it feels, then why should we do the same towards people of other faiths?
People who insulted Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), insulted his family, insulted his beliefs - did they receive the same treatment from Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? No. Why is it that, even today, books by reliable non Muslim authors have only praise for his character? If his life is an example for us all, then we can't selectively implement which of his traits we're going to follow and which ones we're not.
A little more wont hurt a bit
It hurts me, which is why I continue to post replies as long as essays to counter Anand's posts.
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**Salman,
I hate to disagree but slavery IS allowed in Islam**
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Are you sure Shah Jahan?
I thought it was forbidden.
And even if it was allowed. I dont think our Prophet (pbuh) ever made use of it.
*“Ishq bhi ho Hijaab mein husn bhi ho Hijaab mein. Ya tu khud Aaskhaar ho ya mujh ko Aaskhaar kar.”
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Originally posted by Abdali:*
** Nop, as if enough has not been said already.**
you and I as Muslims know exactly how it feels, then why should we do the same towards people of other faiths?
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May be u feel bad not me... It don't make any difference at all coz Islam started with one and expanded to 1.2B dispite opposition from all quarters. So my friend ask me if I care if some moron comes along and BS about islam!! as I said one more woudn't make no difference....Islam bashers will come and go and islam will keep growing....
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Originally posted by Ali_R:
** Are you sure Shah Jahan?
I thought it was forbidden.
And if was allowed..I dont think our Prophet (pbuh) ever made use of it.
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The way slavery is supposed to be practiced in Islam is very different from the way in which it was practiced in the west; in Islam slaves have many, many rights.
Nevertheless, in Islam freeing slaves is considered to be an exceptionally good deed. and was widely practised by the Prophet (SAWS) and the Sahaba.
Well, im just repeating the words of my white history teacher. He didnt say Hinduism was the WORST religion, but he implied it. And I thought Islam ordered us to free slaves not keep them and clean feces like the pariahs of india.
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Originally posted by Abdali:
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May be u feel bad not me... It don't make any difference at all coz Islam started with one and expanded to 1.2B dispite opposition from all quarters. So my friend ask me if I care if some moron comes along and BS about islam!! as I said one more woudn't make no difference....Islam bashers will come and go and islam will keep growing....
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Abdali, I don't think that was the point Nadia was trying to make at all. Perhaps Islam's remarkable expansion is a matter of pride for some, but an issue of much greater importance is how these muslims of an ever-increasing number conduct themselves in the world. Whether its face to face or over the net, the same standards/values apply, values that islam instills in us, specifically in this case, ones of polite conduct, high morals and respect.