Kaka,
hmmm.
Which Molvi was that if you don't mind my asking? i mean, does he have a website?
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**I used to be so against all this dating shating a while ago. But now I dont really think its a big deal. its all about society... for us desis its a big deal, probably cos our religion doesnt encourage inter gender interaction too much. If in a society, dating was totally acceptable, no one would be branding the girls who ask guys out with any names. But in our conservative society, girls are considered passive and arent really expected to ask a guy out or make the first move.*
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From an Islamic pov, if the guy and the girl are just there by themselves, no third party, at the movies, that's not correct though. At least that's how i understand it.
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..but its not that uncommon for women to make the first move either.
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yeah :D
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Khadija (r.a) asked for Mohammad's (p.b.u.h) hand I think.
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Yes, she did, she initiated the move towards marriage.
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*In our society though, dating itself is still a bit of a taboo, so girls, being the fairer sex, are expected to be at least a little more sober or shareef or in control than the guys,, and wen a chick makes the first move,, shes branded a $lut, which is bullcrap.
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hmmm. i really understand where you are coming from, that it's culture that makes us determine what's "right" what's "wrong" - and even in gora cultures it is usually still the guy who makes the first move.
From an Islamic pov, not a cultural-Pakistani one, it would still be wrong though for the guy and girl to be alone at the movies together, by themselves, or am i mistaken... ? But i have seen Muslim guys asking girls out, knowing it will be just one-on-one for a couple hours (at least a couple hours, if not more), and the guy's image is still 'okay' amongst his friends, i.e., no one's calling him immoral or cheap. But if a Muslim girl was to do that, hai haw asmaan gir jaata.