Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
I remember..there was this guy, simiiliar attitude as you described..he tried to preach me about islam. 
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
All types of people turn to religion, not just the nalike, just as Armughal said.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
I just read this article that is close to what rizwan is saying. How true is this, Allah knows best. Read the whole article, it is very interesting.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_4_suicide_bombers.html
The Suicide Bombers Among Us
Theodore Dalrymple EMAIL
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All terrorists, presumably, know the dangers that they run, accepting them as an occupational hazard; given Man’s psychological makeup—or at least the psychological makeup of certain young men—these dangers may act as an attraction, not a deterrent. But only a few terrorists use their own deaths as an integral means of terrorizing others. They seem to be a breed apart, with whom the rest of humanity can have little or nothing in common.
Certainly they sow panic more effectively than other terrorists. Those who leave bombs in public places and then depart, despicable as they are, presumably still have attachments to their own lives, and therefore may be open to dissuasion or negotiation. By contrast, no threat (at first sight) might deter someone who is prepared to extinguish himself to advance his cause, and who considers such self-annihilation while killing as many strangers as possible a duty, an honor, and a merit that will win ample rewards in the hereafter. And Britain has suddenly been forced to acknowledge that it has an unknown number of such people in its midst, some of them home-grown.
The mere contemplation of a suicide bomber’s state of mind is deeply unsettling, even without considering its practical consequences. I have met a would-be suicide bomber who had not yet had the chance to put his thanatological daydream into practice. What could possibly have produced as embittered a mentality as his—what experience of life, what thoughts, what doctrines? What fathomless depths of self-pity led him to the conclusion that only by killing himself and others could he give a noble and transcendent meaning to his existence?
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In Britain, however, these two forms of jihad have coalesced in a most murderous fashion. Those who died in the London bombings were sacrificial victims to the need of four young men to resolve a conflict deep within themselves (and within many young Muslims), and they imagined they could do so only by the most extreme possible interpretation of their ancestral religion.
Young Muslim men in Britain—as in France and elsewhere in the West—have a problem of personal, cultural, and national identity. They are deeply secularized, with little religious faith, even if most will admit to a belief in God. Their interest in Islam is slight. They do not pray or keep Ramadan (except if it brings them some practical advantage, such as the postponement of a court appearance). Their tastes are for the most part those of non-Muslim lower-class young men. They dress indistinguishably from their white and black contemporaries, and affect the same hairstyles and mannerisms, including the vulpine lope of the slums. Gold chains, the heavier the better, and gold front teeth, without dental justification, are symbols of their success in the streets, which is to say of illicit enrichment.
Many young Muslims, unlike the sons of Hindus and Sikhs who immigrated into Britain at the same time as their parents, take drugs, including heroin. They drink, indulge in casual sex, and make nightclubs the focus of their lives. Work and careers are at best a painful necessity, a slow and inferior means of obtaining the money for their distractions.
But if in many respects their tastes and behavior are indistinguishable from those of underclass white males, there are nevertheless clear and important differences. Most obviously, whatever the similarity between them and their white counterparts in their taste for sex, drugs, and rock and roll, they nevertheless do not mix with young white men, even in the neighborhoods devoted to the satisfaction of their tastes. They are in parallel with the whites, rather than intersecting with them.
Another obvious difference is the absence of young Muslim women from the resorts of mass distraction. However similar young Muslim men might be in their tastes to young white men, they would be horrified, and indeed turn extremely violent, if their sisters comported themselves as young white women do. They satisfy their sexual needs with prostitutes and those whom they quite openly call “white sluts.” (Many a young white female patient of mine has described being taunted in this fashion as she walked through a street inhabited by Muslims.) And, of course, they do not have to suffer much sexual frustration in an environment where people decide on sexual liaisons within seconds of acquaintance.
However secular the tastes of the young Muslim men, they strongly wish to maintain the male dominance they have inherited from their parents. A sister who has the temerity to choose a boyfriend for herself, or who even expresses a desire for an independent social life, is likely to suffer a beating, followed by surveillance of Stasi-like thoroughness. The young men instinctively understand that their inherited system of male domination—which provides them, by means of forced marriage, with sexual gratification at home while simultaneously freeing them from domestic chores and allowing them to live completely Westernized lives outside the home, including further sexual adventures into which their wives cannot inquire—is strong but brittle, rather as communism was: it is an all or nothing phenomenon, and every breach must meet swift punishment.
Even if for no other reason, then (and there are in fact other reasons), young Muslim males have a strong motive for maintaining an identity apart. And since people rarely like to admit low motives for their behavior, such as the wish to maintain a self-gratifying dominance, these young Muslims need a more elevated justification for their conduct toward women. They find it, of course, in a residual Islam: not the Islam of onerous duties, rituals, and prohibitions, which interferes so insistently in day-to-day life, but in an Islam of residual feeling, which allows them a sense of moral superiority to everything around them, including women, without in any way cramping their style.
This Islam contains little that is theological, spiritual, or even religious, but it nevertheless exists in the mental economy as what anatomists call a “potential space.” A potential space occurs where two tissues or organs are separated by smooth membranes that are normally close together, but that can be separated by an accumulation of fluid such as pus if infection or inflammation occurs. And, of course, such inflammation readily occurs in the minds of young men who easily believe themselves to be ill-used, and who have been raised on the thin gruel of popular Western culture without an awareness that any other kind of Western culture exists.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
Nothing wrong with that... everybody has there own way of doing things.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
Some people just bash my post without giving it proper consideration... I post based on my experiences.. some people have agreed with me whilst others just turn a blind eye and accuse me of generalization, well all of us do it to some extent
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
Why do we feel like we have to care?
Leave it to God on day of Judgement to judge who is doing it cuz of success and who is doing it cuz they dropped out.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
*I do intend to do much more research on Islam, but not right now when I'm a full-time student. Nowhere in Islam is it stated that you leave your studies for late night tableegh! *
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
^ but it does say, IF you can manage it, then you SHOULD.
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My dad told me that back in his day in Pakistan when a boy wasnt particularly good in his studies they'd send him to a madressah to become a maulana or something.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
^^ That is true in some cases. When they see that the kid is acting shareer all the time, can't concentrate on anything and is just hyper active, they think it is time to get him in line and send them to madrassah. Over here they just say the kid has ADD or some other mental illness that makes him hyper active and just perscribe drugs.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
I have heard this argument many times and many prominent names come up…Osama bin Laden, a multimillionaire, who left everything to fight in Afghanistan and Zawahiri being the top ones…Not to mention thousands of Mujahideen who left prominent jobs to fight in Afghanistan…
It is written in the Bible, that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the gates of heaven…
Allah :swt: guides many through both bestowing and taking away...Some he tests by bestowing, like the brother of the Sultan of Brunei, whose yacht is named 'Tits' and its two lifeboats as 'Nipple1' and 'Nipple2'...Some he tests by taking away, either in wealth or health...
The reason many ‘losers’ in life turn to religion is that being poor places restrictions in expenditure…As a result, one finds solace in poverty with religion…After all, how much frivolous spending can one do if one’s wallet is fat?
We must think as Muslims…What really is success? Two days on this earth in comfort or an eternity of pleasure in paradise? And if poverty on earth leads one to turn to religion, then is it really a bad bargain?
However, we are materialistic and tend to believe that which we can see and touch...What can religion offer? Just promises?
And it is written, one gains that which one attains to achieve…For some, earthly comfort and delight tend to hold a great attraction while for others it doesn’t…
I read also someplace, that one should be wary of when Allah :swt: grants too much of a good thing...It is because when a person whom Allah :swt: dislikes keeps asking for something, Allah :swt: gives him that (earthly) thing just to shut him up while He withholds earthly things from someone He likes because He likes to hear that person make supplication...
Also, except for Hz. Zulqarnain :as: Hz. and Sulaiman :as: I have not heard of a Prophet of Allah (swt) who was even remotely successful in anything...The Prophet :saw: used to get so much from maal-e-ghanimat, yet he used to give it all away to the poor...
Also, hellfire will lay claim to the haughty and the mighty while paradise will lay claim to the poor and the destitute...
In Islam, no one can claim who is successful or or a loser…While we can claim like PCG that some people choose religion to flaunt it in other people’s faces…Flaunt in her case would be someone correcting her about something…Now, if that same knowledge came from someone successful, she would accept it…Why? Because she can ‘see’ the person as being well-off, not what is being related…That is a very myopic view…
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
^ :)
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
So, ur saying that ur studies are more important than ur religious duties?
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Currently yes, because when you are too worried about living in a jhonpri and having nothing to eat, you are not exactly in the best position to give your research on religion a fair chance, are you?
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The muslims in arabia did not even have a jhonpri and they gave religion a chance.
People that think education and this world and shahrukh khan can get them a steady job and a good life are really funny to me.
Sighs.
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Rizwan I dont agree with u completely, however lack of education leads to all sorts but if it guides to Islam, *it is positive.
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By reading the posts in this thread I understand the diversity of concepts and perceptions, although the people putting in their views practice the same deen still they lack a clear understanding...
I feel I belong to a perplexed and baffled Muslim Ummah, I know I might be offending a number of people but it I find it distressing that we as a muslim Ummah lack harmony and unity in basic concepts.
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*I am really sorry if you are not doing too well in school, but you have your own goals and I have mine. I realize that thora bahut time can be made for Islam no matter what else you are doing, but to research it with dedication requires mental stability and not the fear of where the next bite of food will come from. People who live in Western countries and can’t seem to get out of their mental pinds are really funny to me.
Sighs. Really.*
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^^
Strange…My Prophet :saw: and many Ashabas even gave away the next bite of food they had…First came faith then everything else…Perhaps that’s why their legacy lasts even today in its entirety…
Now, we have you…
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
I am not a prophet and neither am I a sahabi. Get with the times, my man. Nobody is denying the importance of knowing your religion. Again, it’s not my fault if you are not too good of a student.
Re: why is it mostly the failures at uni/college that turn to religion?
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but they are our role model; if we do not try to be like them (with the stupidest excuse shaitaan teaches us that we can not immitate them), then we are certainly doomed.