Why is India rejecting any foreign Aid help?

Why is India rejecting any foreign Aid help? Is India doing the right thing?

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Keeping the pride
Manmohan Singh has stunned the West by refusing aid.

31 December 2004: The focus is on the United States for stingy contribution to tsunami victims, but another aid war is in the making, between India and several countries in Europe, but mainly, the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany, after prime-minister Manmohan Singh refused assistance from them. Diplomats have been seeking reasons from the government, calling one another in ire, and even helplessly buttonholed journalists to check what is going on. But through all this, the PM has remained firm not to take aid, and with good reason.

India has had bad experience of taking foreign aid in the past, but it became almost grotesque during both the Gujarat earthquake and the Orissa super cyclone. In Orissa, European aid agencies instead of primarily focusing on giving relief meandered into criticising the state’s poor infrastructure, and wrote bitingly about the lack of development in the fifty years since Independence.

The lack of development is not exactly a state secret, but the government did not permit the aid agencies in to present a drain inspector’s report. And a cost-benefit analysis showed it was just not worth inviting foreign aid. In the Gujarat earthquake, the Japanese were busily testing the water standards in affected areas and pronouncing it undrinkable, instead of concentrating on the primary task at hand, providing relief.

These two experiences, say officials, put off the government. It was terrible to be faced with natural disasters, but it was worse to be attacked thereafter, bringing down even the good work done, in exchange for aid, which in any case turned put inadequate. There was a third experience, a little different from the first two, but revealing the colonial/ imperial mindset of Europe.

In the Gujarat riots, some Dutch monuments were vandalised. There was no particular anger against the Dutch, but Indians are generally careless about heritage, and in any case, in the mad violence of the riots, protecting colonial monuments is the last thing on any government’s mind. In this case, Narendra Modi could not even secure the life of Gujaratis.

Anyhow, the Dutch wrote in protest to Modi, who replied to the effect that the government had more pressing responsibilities. In Europe, the Netherlands and Belgium, small powerless countries among mighty neighbours, have for one or another reason always sided against India. Several European countries wrote their findings on the Gujarat riots, and the British report was particularly scathing against Modi.

The British report got leaked first in Europe and then in the Indian media. The NDA government was furious, but the British said they had no hand in the leak. Indian agencies then traced the leak to the Dutch, rather to a Dutch public-affairs officer, who was returning Modi the favour of not protecting Dutch colonial history.

Subsequently, on the basis of the British report, the European Union decided to suspend aid to India, and stung, the then PM, A.B.Vajpayee, ordered to refuse assistance from eighteen countries, most of them in Europe, but also including Australia, New Zealand and Japan. These donations were small, the PM said, and India did not need them any longer. The diplomatic community could not stomach this stinging rebuff.

Soon after the UPA came to power, the government did reverse this decision, but the PM has returned to the old position. Manmohan Singh has always reflected strong national pride, as when he took determined steps as finance minister to buy back the gold pledged by the Chandrasekhar government in 1991, or when, on his own, he rebuffed Natwar Singh’s criticism of India’s weaponisation programme in South Korea, saying in Parliament that India was a nuclear weapons’ power and would remain one.

But besides national pride, there are also logistical and security considerations behind his decision to say no. Officials say that the bother commences after fast-tracking visas for aid workers, because they have to be secured, they have to be provided living environments like back home, which comes at huge cost in disaster-struck areas, and the government has to place at their disposal huge logistical facilities, that hamper other, more profitable local assistance. After all this follows the routine of savaging India’s image in the Western media.

But there is also a pressing security consideration. The tsunamis have hit India’s strategic assets in the Andamans, partly Orissa, and the government wants to contain any negativity following the flooding of the Kalpakkam nuclear complex. “The British are particularly notorious about carrying out espionage activities in such times of vulnerability, setting up devices, moles and sleeper teams, and fresh demands could be made to sign CTBT, NPT, etc, based on eyewitness accounts from Kalpakkam, for example,” explained an official. “You can never tell.” A new spat has broken out over India mulling over giving overflight rights over the Andamans for France, Britain and the Netherlands to evacuate their tourists. Diplomats say India is standing on false pride by refusing even emergency aid, but at the same time, these countries refuse to make cash contributions to the prime minister’s relief fund. They want to come with material relief and personnel, and India has had more than enough of them. The second spin diplomats put is that India is keen to portray an image of self-sufficiency to strengthen its claim for veto power in the UN Security Council. No one in the government carries that mindset, and certainly not the PM, who has acted alone and taken a bold step to refuse aid. In the midst of this huge spiraling tragedy, India is ironically gaining in image as no longer a Third-World country.

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Why is India rejecting any foreign Aid help? Is India doing the right thing?
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So what do you think?

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So what do you think?
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I think (India thinks) taking too much aid from America, you are at the mercy of USA.

India has a image problem. Thats all. It's hard for them to come out and admit that they are a poor country. Plus it is pretty evident from the initial post that the living standards are below modern nations and Indians dont likethat publicized.

Two possibilities

1) India is a rich country
2) Life is cheap

P.S: Even US accepted $10M from Kuwait, This was after one of the natural disasters in the 90s.

One other reason could be India wants to prove to the world that it can organise a relief effort on its own. India was the first country to help Sri Lanka and Maldives with doctors, navy . money, medicines etc.

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One other reason could be India wants to prove to the world that it can organise a relief effort on its own.
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Every thing has its price.

Perhaps India feels more severely affected countries are more needy.

India's resources have not been fully utilized by a long shot mostly due to infrastructure and dispensation problems...there is no need to get involved in the politics of receiving aid when it wont better the ground situation. doubling the available funds wont change anything if they cannot be utilized and appropriated efficiently and effectively. the logistics of the situation renders much of the foreign help inconsequential. and India's capability in dealing with this becomes more apparent when noting that India is part of the 4 country coalition responsible for managing and coordinating the relief effort and contributing aid.

did the U.S not reject $10m in aid from Saudi after 9-11? surely somebody could have used that money....perhaps the families of the victims....or maybe a salary raise for the firefighters and policemen. but that's not always how it works.

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This is what it is all about.
How can you accept aid, whilst at the same time aspire to a UNSC seat.
How can you accept aid, whilst at the same time be the world’s labour pool for software programmers and call-centres and other outsourcing activities.

Pakistan should take a leaf out of India’s book. It should learn that despite the duplicity of India’s stance, it is doing it in the NATIONAL interest. The arguments put forward by India for refusing aid are very mature and smack of a long-term strategy. Even Modi, the butcher of Gujrat has a serious point to make to the Dutch, and he can get away with such comments.

Pakistani politicians should grow up. Otherwise we will be completely overshadowed quicker than we think.

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did the U.S not reject $10m in aid from Saudi after 9-11? surely somebody could have used that money....perhaps the families of the victims....or maybe a salary raise for the firefighters and policemen. but that's not always how it works.
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Rudy Guiliani refused to accept it because it was tantamount to blood money. If you recall, at the time, a strong anti-muslim anti-arab sentiment was gaining momentum. It was good politics to refuse aid from arabs. It made Guiliani appear as a strong leader, something which the Indian leaders are emulating.

abdali india is one of the countires activly partcipating inrelief
works

The United States, India, Australia, Japan and the United Nations have formed an international coalition to coordinate worldwide relief and reconstruction efforts.
The Indian navy, which has already deployed 32 ships and 29 aircraft for tsunami relief and rescue work, was sending two more ships yesterday to Indonesia

http://www.washtimes.com/world/20041231-112351-8262r.htm

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Rudy Guiliani refused to accept it because it was tantamount to blood money. If you recall, at the time, a strong anti-muslim anti-arab sentiment was gaining momentum. It was good politics to refuse aid from arabs. It made Guiliani appear as a strong leader, something which the Indian leaders are emulating.
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Correction.

Rudy accepted the $10 mil chk initially. He then heard that the Arab Sheikh had mentioned "Well maybe after this disaster, U.S will re-think its Foreign Policy". Well the timing of this comment was wrong and when Rudy heard this he returned the chk, His returning of the check was a good political move to gain Jewish votes (later in his political life if he still has one left after Keriks fiasco). Remember he did something stupid to apease Jews on the U.N 50th year annivesary as well; by not inviting Yasir (and later as an after thought Fidel) to a broadway show. Yasir showed up anyway and was ejected (a childish move by Rudy to please Jewish voters).

well indians are dreaming to be member of security council...they better be able to handle a disaster of this magnitude on their own.

Indian Government better behave and accept international aid and let international aid groups enter indian territory to help poor people. India should understand that it is a poor country and beggars have no choice. Poor indians are dying of hunger and diseases and stupid Indian Government is playing politics. Shame on you Indian Government…here is what some indians have to say:

“There is nothing to eat there. There is no water. In a couple of days, people will start dying of hunger,” Anup Ghatak, a utilities contractor from Campbell Bay island, said as he was being evacuated to Port Blair, the capital of the territory.

“There is starvation. People haven’t had food or water for at least five days. There are carcasses. There will be an epidemic,” Manoranjan Bhakta, Andaman’s lawmaker to the federal parliament, told The Associated Press after being surrounded on a roadside by people demanding food and water for stranded family members.

SHAME ON YOU INDIAN GOVERNMENT FOR LETTING YOUR POOR FELLOW CITIZENS DIE FOR PETTY POLITICS…

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/10541923.htm

India Villagers Desperate for Tsunami Aid

NEELESH MISRA

Associated Press

PORT BLAIR, India - Fighting to survive without water or food since the tsunami, villagers on a remote southern Indian archipelago forbidden to outsiders are starving and desperate for humanitarian aid, survivors and officials said Friday.

India has so far denied international aid groups access to enter most of the island territory of Andaman and Nicobar, the last tsunami blind spot where casualties are not known but feared to be in the thousands.

“There is nothing to eat there. There is no water. In a couple of days, people will start dying of hunger,” Anup Ghatak, a utilities contractor from Campbell Bay island, said as he was being evacuated to Port Blair, the capital of the territory.

On Friday, an island official said 712 bodies had been buried or cremated, and at least 3,754 people were missing amid the debris of crumbled homes, downed trees and mounds of dead animals on several islands.

That lowered a government estimate Thursday of 10,000 missing in the hundreds of islands scattered over some 4,350 miles in the Bay of Bengal. The Red Cross said
earlier up to 30,000 could be missing.

Homeless and stunned victims of Sunday’s disaster poured into eight relief camps in Port Blair on Friday with harrowing tales of death and destruction. Walking long distances through dense forests to get to the nearest airfield, they were grateful they had survived but anxious to learn if their friends and families were safe.

“There is starvation. People haven’t had food or water for at least five days. There are carcasses. There will be an epidemic,” Manoranjan Bhakta, Andaman’s lawmaker to the federal parliament, told The Associated Press after being surrounded on a roadside by people demanding food and water for stranded family members.

Indian authorities have traditionally barred foreigners from most of the islands - partly for security reasons because of an Indian air force base in Car Nicobar and also to protect a dwindling group of indigenous people. Even Indians need special permits to travel there.

Some 40 percent of the densely forested area is designated as a tribal reserve where indigenous people live; the remaining area is protected for wood cultivation.

A few international relief agencies have begun working in Port Blair - the territory’s capital, where permission is not needed to enter - but are unable to go deeper into the archipelago’s 500 islands.

India has officially reported more than 8,900 dead throughout the country in the earthquake-tsunami disaster. But that does not include a complete count in the island territories.

The missing could not be presumed dead because they could have survived in coconut groves that dot the islands, said V. V. Bhat, chief secretary of the islands.

“It’s possible that a good number of them might have survived in coconut gardens. Coconuts would have provided sustenance, but we can’t hazard a guess,” Bhat told reporters.

Drinking water shortages have been reported, but local people were making do with eating coconut kernel and drinking coconut water, officials said.

“In the southern parts, people have suffered a lot. There is water scarcity everywhere. We fear an epidemic,” said Tarak Banerjee, director of the disaster preparedness unit at the Voluntary Health Association of India.

Many villagers alleged relief was reaching the islands but was hoarded by local officials.

Relief operations on the remote archipelago - which starts approximately 300 miles northwest of the quake’s epicenter - have been limited to Indian officials and local volunteers who have struggled to deliver tons of rations, clothes, bed sheets, oil, and other items, hampered by lack of transportation to the remote islands.

“We would like to be invited to join the relief effort, and to be part of any helicopter or boat trip to the area,” an official with the Paris-based Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders) said at a news conference on Thursday.

International humanitarian group Oxfam also requested entry. But Lt. Gov. Ram Kapse, administrator of the federally governed territory, said no decision had been made. He said four Indian volunteer groups have been allowed to travel to the islands.

Sharath Babu, head of a group of amateur HAM radio operators, said his colleagues in the worst parts of Car Nicobar island reported “relief is not reaching the people. People are hungry.”

i was stunned and in fact somewhat impressed with india when i heard the news...but then i thought: if i was the govt i would not refuse foreign help at the cost of the welfare of the citizens of my country and india IS a poor country after all, how the heck are they gona manage all that without help?

i hope for the ppl of india that it wasnt some political move by the govt to gain political mileage at the cost of getting help to affected indians

Ronen Sen was on TV (CSPAN) and answered many of the questions.

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Indian Government better behave and accept international aid and let international aid groups enter indian territory to help poor people. India should understand that it is a poor country and beggars have no choice. Poor indians are dying of hunger and diseases and stupid Indian Government is playing politics. Shame on you Indian Government.....here is what some indians have to say:

SHAME ON YOU INDIAN GOVERNMENT FOR LETTING YOUR POOR FELLOW CITIZENS DIE FOR PETTY POLITICS....

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how so? the logistical reality is that no matter who is trying to help, many of the victims are unable to be maximally helped. India has set aside enough cash and has plenty of medical and reconstruction specialists to help...a shortage of this is not the problem. therefore, an increase will not solve anything. what use is it to be flooded with aid and foreign specialists that cannot even access those in need? like India has stated, when India's own resources start to become fully utilized, then it will gladly accept foreign aid. but before then, what is the use?

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how so? the logistical reality is that no matter who is trying to help, many of the victims are unable to be maximally helped. India has set aside enough cash and has plenty of medical and reconstruction specialists to help...a shortage of this is not the problem. therefore, an increase will not solve anything. what use is it to be flooded with aid and foreign specialists that cannot even access those in need? like India has stated, when India's own resources start to become fully utilized, then it will gladly accept foreign aid. but before then, what is the use?
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you have made some valid points...i hope you dont think that i am trying to pick on indian governmet being a "pakistani".....but fact of the matter is that given the scope of the tragedy, all efforts should be focussed on helping poor people..I have/had a feeling that indian government is also trying to cash in on this tragedy politically...every other day an indian misnister shows up on TV with a statement that india does not need any aid, rather india is strong enough to help all neighboring countries too......OK FINE...but even indian correspondents are telling a different story.......It is time to come together not to drift apart...

can pakistan economy survive without cash infusion or debt
cancellation from united states ? who are the largest aid recieving
nations ? can anybody list the nations?