not playing rana Naved in this match just underscores how inzamam has not improved as a captain at all sice he has gotten it! His approach is to not lose and draw rather than to go for a win. the astonishing selections under his captaincy have been rediculious at times. I dont want 2 sound 2 negative about him since the team just won a test series, but we havent won them because of great captaincy it was mostly due to individual brilliance, that includes his batting, and the duo of shoaib and danish. The biggest blunders in his captaincy have been putting a debutant in a icc champions trophy semifinal and electing to bat first in september in england after his bowlers knocked over the best batting lineup (india) bowling 1st. bowling 1st in karachi against india. 3 different opening combinations against india in india in 3 tests. and now against india he put asif in who is playing his 2nd test which would haeve bene ok had he left in rana, but dropping rana shows the double standards he and bob have because they milked sami even though he was performing horrible. the purpose of this thread is not an inzi bashing thread but underlines that he will never be a great captain and Pakistan can not be the no1 team in the world with a captain who has such a defensive approach. im posting a link to osman samiuddins article from cricinfo, he sheds light on it also!
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/story/233942.html
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Well Naveed should be in the team i guess.Also Yasir Hameed deserves a chance,salman butt can be replaced as he has not performed well in 2 tests..
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yea i 4 got to mention their blind support of shoaib malik, who looks lost even on these pitches against a pedestrian gentle pace bowling lineup!
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Salman is there to stay for a long time. This guy needs confidence of the team management a little lecture from Bob.
Rana deserved the chance here, but I think Bob and Inzi wanted to punish him for bowling Sehwag what he hits the best, over and over for two days. Karachi pitch will suit Rana's otherwise intelligent bowling. Playing Razzler in test for Rana or Umer Gul however is not justifiable.
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and what happened to imran nazir?..... he was one of the finest stroke player!!... what happened to him?
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You are most welcome to post your thoughts on Shoaib Malik in this thread. ![]()
I completely agree with the thread title, as well as the initial post. I am of a mindset that if a team is playing well, rather that be on a home ground or an away series, full credit should be provided, at all costs, but, on the other hand, if a decision or a circumstance surrounds the environment in which it seems like it has ‘hurt’ the team, I am amongst the first ones to point a finger and criticize that person. Double-standards are a thing of the past, and it should remain that way, for the benefit of mankind.
I have raised my thoughts previously as well on the professionalism of Rana Naveed, and instead of repeating myself, I will just stick to the point, that it was a rather poor decision, and after reading complete article on CricInfo, I think it is about time we come to our senses and start (and continue, after initialization) with a “winning combination”, rather than changing the slots in each and every match. Not to take away the discussion from this thread, but we all know how well the “creativity” of Inzamam-ul-Haq bodes with his present/future affairs. The inclusion of Sami in the team, as well as thrusting Malik up the order are the two utmost prominent mistakes that I believe should be corrected, as soon as possible. Drop Sami from the team for a period of good few months, give him time in domestic cricket to further improve his bowling, and by the time World Cup arrives, if another bowler is needed at that point in time, we will have one on the premises.
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its just not him choosing who is going to be in the team u know
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I agree, Inzi can never be a great captain, after all he has not played Yasir hameed, bazid khan, faisal iqbal, umer gul, azhar mahmood, asim kamal, etc. etc. etc. Till he plays all these guys in one match he cant be a great captain. Oops!!! forgot you can only play 11 players. Silly me. ![]()
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Some of the opinions amaze me seriuosly. If Inzimam considers giving Razzaq a chance ahead of Rana, then good game from him. Do you people not follow cricket? Dont you know how captains worldwise have certain players in mind who they back to succeed? Numerous examples here are Ganguly supporting Yuvraj (when even selectors gave up on Yuvraj's test credentials), Ponting supported Symonds blindly even after his initial failures. Stephen Fleming kept faith in Scott Styris and he paid him off big time. I personally dont support Razzaq or Malik's inclusion in test squad either but Inzimam and Bob know cricket a lot more than all the guppies combined on this board. Inzimam will be a great captain if he keeps producing results after results whether or not you like it or not. No doubt he sometimes lack tactical brilliance but Fleming has it aplenty still his team fails to produce consistent results. Dubbint our perforamnces last year as 'individual brilliance' is a great offence to the highest ever levels of team spirit, professional ethics and unity.
Secondly, it was said here that we won the test series because of individual brilliance. Over the period of test series agianst series we had several individuals who performed to the peak of their potentials. (Inzimam, Butt, Afridi, MoYo, Akmal, Shoaib Akhtar, Kaneria ) Take away one performance from this lot and we would struggle to win test series and thats called collective results.
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Well, Rana’z exclusion was due to his injury. So stop blaming Inzi…
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^^ agree
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i stand corrected than!!
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b serious ehsan bhai i never implied n e of those things, but his selction of teams r sometimes amazing!
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Paradoxical ![]()
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You sir, are clueless. I would take Inzy over any captain playing today.
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Yeah it was due to individual brilliance of hmmmm lets see
Salman Butt
Yousuf
Inzamam
Kamran
Danish
Shoaib
Rana
Afridi
Malik
Shabbir
and although this counts to 10 players in all…this still is a “individual brilliance” and not a team effort. If one fails in one game and other stood up this is not called the “team effort” but is an “individual brilliance”!!!
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Stop complaining about Inzi. He is one of the best captains around these days…
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I think you make a very interesting point, In that no matter how savy a captain might be he is limited by the skill of his team as a whole (as in the case of Stephen Fleming). Having that said consider the possibility when both tactical savy and team performance are combined. The result of which could take Pakistan to levels far greater than they are at now.
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I am sure Gangu is regreting that , considering Yuvraj has taken his place in the side.
Your point..well taken though.
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No one has ever accused Inzamam of having a hugely active or tactical cricketing brain. More over he is pretty lazy as well. What everyone will, however, recognize him for are his inter-personal skills, humility, amazing batting talent and the ability to lead from the front, unite the team and mature it into a bunch of extremely talented players with a lot of self-belief.
To compare and contrast, lets look at what Pakistan had produced in terms of great captains. Three names come to mind.. Kardar, Mushtaq and Imran. Except may be Mushtaq to an extent, the accepted mold was for the skipper to be arrogant, supremely self-confident and able to demonstrate power. Sans arrogance, Inzi fits the bill. To a large extent, Imran also leaned on Miandad to provide the tactical brilliance and cricketing streetsmart in decision-making. Thats what made them an awesome pair. I am sure Inzi is not a lone-horse in the field and is leveraging off Younis, Afridi, Akhtar and other senior players to come up with strategies. Not to mention pre-planning with Woolmer.
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That one is very obvious, but I'm not sure if Inzi is able to keep "plan B" in mind or knows when to fallback on plan B :D... many a times he seems to be stuck in Plan A and waits for everything else to happen "according to plan (A)".