Why Ibaadat brings Pride?

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First we, the Muslims, need to define what's actually being religious? Doing IBADAT is not enough to make you all religious and PIOUS, I am totally against this concept. I have been the victim of such so called religious proud (for nothing) people who think that if they know everything (they want) about Islam then they can do anything to anyone. Islam means Humanity and if you pray five times a day but on the other side you are destroying someone else's life by plotting against him/her then you are absolutely a FAIL and USELESS. To me they should be the most HATED people on earth

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To me when one is pious and god fearing, one should be down to earth. If you are proud of your Ibadat you are not pious. But that doesn't mean by leaving namaaz and saying I am not proud will make you pious either. You have to have both qualities at the same time, otherwise there is no difference between either you pray or you don't pray.

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I can't say I've seen that. Though I have heard less practising Muslims say things like so and so thinks they're so good because they do such and such ibaadat. Though I never got that vibe from the person they're talking about.

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The person could be very confident, clear in mannerism that other person get so impressed that he/she perceives this as arrogance.

Solution: Become religious and beat those feelings by becoming humble yourself at the same time. :D

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Cha gaye Diwana ji! Well said.

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:blush:

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This.

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Bana-kay FiqeeroN ka hum behees Ghalib , Tamshah-e-Ahl-e-karam daikte haiN :)

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Is it ibaadat that is the cause of their pride? What are these motives or ideas that drive them into believing that the more pious they appear the more respected they will be? I mean ibaadat is between the abd and maa'bood so if their "Ibadat" is the cause of their pride then it is not ibadat at all is it? That ibadat of theirs can simply be termed as an action that goes unnoticed by the almighty for if their mind is occupied by such worldly and petty things than they are not talking to God are they?

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What could I understand about those people is that they consider their worship as a wealth and become proud of the same like the owner of worldly wealth and don't miss any chance to show off this wealth.

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Its not confidence it Ri'aa (show-off) in most of the cases.

Jis daali main phal lagta hai, wo jhukti hai, but here a little knowledge of religion and worship of a person make him / her arrogant and in-tolerate for those who are not at same scale.

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Maybe instead of phal they get lagaoed helium balloons?

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:rotfl:

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folk wisdom pretty much everywhere is full of warnings about such "pious" people though. real greatness comes through service, and serving others, especially the needy, makes one humble.

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mechanically :smiley:

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actually its an islamic belief that they are atleast better

sometimes you cant judge between people, but when one is called 'not that religious', as in the case of your example we have a good idea

you said some scholars are guilty of it, some examples would be beneficial to understand what you are refering to. i dont actually understand fully. at this time i suspect that you just doing 'religious' bashing

you said:
'ibadat as sword against those not that religious'

its an odd tool to use, perplexing without examples. i think most replies adjusted their replies to what they thought you meant to say

if you meant general piety or aqeedah please clarify

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Peace Bro

I'm sorry but majority of the people I met were victim of this show-off. If our scholars are real scholars, why don't they speak of bonding between sects. Didn't they know the Ayat of Sura e Hujraat regarding importance of brotherhood? They label other sect as Kafir becuase they think themselves better than others. I think I don't need to quote any example in this regard.

PS: Its not religious bashing, these are my thoughts against those who consider themselves owners of religion.

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our ideas may differ on what constitutes sects. your right the sect is an evil group and not from the believers (Allah is ultimate judge of them individually). however there is groups (not sects) amongst the believers who disagree and sometimes they speakup about certain 'beliefs' and interpretations against eachother. if you dont share their passion for correct beliefs you will never understand but they have islamic reasons for speaking up. sometimes one or both of them get it wrong and fall into big sin

theres also supposed sects which are actually different religions. thats a fact, you need to comprehend the situation.

from what i have personally seen i know you have alot of knowledge but i think you lack some of the knowledge, and have chosen to ignore some other knowledge related to these matters to not be such a good critic of the situation. you could address the situation by taking a deeper look into it, but i wouldnt advise this to you for a number of reasons including your work situation

imo its religious bashing and a known, predictable form of it. hence my query

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If its the religion bashing, then its the part of religion which promotes arrogance and hatred for others due to perceived superiority complex.

PS: I 100% agree that I do lack knowledge in respect of many aspects of religion and should work on it, but IMO that won't change my perception about the people I'm discussing in this thread.

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Do you mean kind of like how educated people look down on those who are uneducated or perhaps less educated than themselves? Or how wealthy people do the same for people not having their level of wealth?